Majority of ASEAN NOW expat viewers want to remain in Thailand

[RobU]

3 hours ago, nchuckle said:

But you’ve already paid by virtue of a history of taxes / National insurance and in my case STILL paying (tax on my retirement income)! But I cannot claim - I’m not talking about minor trips to say a government hospital here which is dirt cheap,but when you’re too old to get health insurance (or becomes too expensive)and you develop a more serious/expensive to treat condition as you age ,or experience a sudden event (heart attack?) . The pendulum tips financially as you become older ,which is why I’ve kept my U.K. house which yields a very significant rental income. I’m in good health and married for 20 years (Thai with British citizenship) ,so I’ve planned carefully and not burned bridges and when/if that time comes for whatever reason I can head back. For now though there are serious financial advantages to stay put.

If you are out of the UK for more than 9 months all rights to benefits are legally revoked including free NHS care, you have to remain in residency for a specified period. However most GP's and Hospitals either ignore it or are unaware of the ruling. This may change with the current pressure on the NHS

[Alex2554]

7 hours ago, Burma Bill said:

I wonder if these ex-pats will still be happy when the bank deposit for a retirement visa should become 1,000,000 baht.

[oslooskar]

14 hours ago, jacko45k said:

People are still being treated free in the UK.... every day.

So, what do the doctors in the United Kingdom live on if they are treating everyone for free? Do they live in homeless shelters and panhandle for small change on the streets?

[Mac Mickmanus]

9 minutes ago, oslooskar said:

So, what do the doctors in the United Kingdom live on if they are treating everyone for free? Do they live in homeless shelters and panhandle for small change on the streets?

Salary paid for  from taxation 

[billd766]

30 minutes ago, oslooskar said:

So, what do the doctors in the United Kingdom live on if they are treating everyone for free? Do they live in homeless shelters and panhandle for small change on the streets?

https://www.healthcareers.nhs.uk/explore-roles/doctors/pay-doctors/pay-doctors#:~:text=If you're working as,£80%2C693 to £91%2C584.

 

Doctors in training
As a doctor in training you’ll earn a basic salary, plus pay for any hours over 40 per week, a 37 per cent enhancement for working nights, a weekend allowance for any work at the weekend, an availability allowance if you are required to be available on-call, and other potential pay premia.

In Foundation training, you will earn a basic salary of £29,384 to £34,012 (from 1 April 2022).

If you’re a doctor starting your specialist training in 2022 your basic salary will be £40,257 to £53,398.

Specialty doctors and specialist pay scale
If you’re working as a specialty doctor you’ll earn a basic salary of £50,373 to £78,759. If you are a specialist grade doctor you'll earn a basic salary of £80,693 to £91,584.

 

There is more information in the link.

[Gilligan In Drag]

Gee, I guess I'm just out of the loop once again. I hadn't heard that ex-pats, ex-johns, ex-charlies or ex-barbaras and lisas are leaving Thailand in droves. Bu now that you mention it, I should leave, but I am not the upstanding, toe the line and get the latest booster shot and move onto the next place kind of person the rest of you are. "I'm blowin this pop stand! I'm goin to Ecuador! Why you can take acid on the beach  in Ecuador, its semi-legal. And they got cactus growing all around and the volcanoes blowin their stacks its incredible!" " There's always plenty of reasons to leave that many of us love to moan about, like how the godamn birds in this country (no not those kind of birds, I mean birds that live in nests and lay eggs, not British "beüds", no I mean bards like we say in Alabama) that chirp all day, or charp all day as we say in Biloxi, they don't even sing they just beep or peep these one note bursts again and again and again and again and again and its enough to send you running and screaming for the exits back to Jacksonville, and with that as the back drop to the constant droning of the question, "How long you stay in Thailand?" which when you start thinking about it too much, and particularly in concert with the non-concert that is the beeping birds who can't string together a two note melody to save their lives, it completely loses its meaning. I don't really even understand the question any more. How long you stay in Thailand? Does it mean both how long have you stayed in Thailand and how long will you stay in Thailand, or what? I'm beginning to think so but that doesn't make any sense to me and doesn't to the Thais but they don't care. But what the hell does it even mean? Stay? Thats what I tell my dog to do, stay! Stay boy! "Stay right here in Thailand! "Stay! boy! Stay!"Anyway,  I move around a little bit, what you mean how long I stay? And if you ask people what they mean they seem to get confused and then try to make a slap stick joke out of it say for example and then hit you over the head with a spoon. Nobody understands what or why you are asking, "Woy! Ting tong! Why you not go back home already? Airport is over there."  The way everything is a bloody misunderstanding all the time and thats the way they like it!  If everyone misunderstands what you are saying then they don't have to answer you except how they want to and you don't have to answer them, and you can change the topic change your mind, change the salad dressing and the whole damn menu at the drop of the hat if thats what you need and no one even blinks. "Oh...misunderstanding." You can get out of anything because it was a misunderstanding. Simple as that. You got run over by a train because you asked, "Can we stand here?" And they said "Shooah! You can stand anywhere in Thailand! You free baby! And ganja is free too!" But, no really you can misunderstand anywhere and get run over by a train because you think you can stand there and Thai people think you can stand there too, but not tell you, you'll get hit by a train if you stand there. And how they are always out of something you sort of kind of need to buy but not really. Or they get something you like and then start to need it and then they know, now is the time to stop selling it. I swear my wife calls the supermarket when I'm asleep in bed, "OK he's really using pickel relish all the time,  pull the plug, send the rest of it back to the distributor now, your clear. The hooks are in. "  And you ask the shop manager,  "Say blood, why you go and discontinue those  blue corn jalapeño cheese puffs on me and sheet, that's a messed up deal man, why you do that?" and they say "Because nobody ever buy them." And you say "well I was buying them! I bought all the ones you had on the shelf one day! If you hadda put more I would bought them too G.! But Because I already knew you'd discontinue them next month because you were actually selling them and its too much trouble for your ass to order more,  you don't order that thing again! Thats it isn't it, G?! You just want things in here up ther on the shelf that no one will buy, so you don't have to do nothin!" And he says "Yes." And thats all he has to say. Not yes you're right just "Yes." If it was America and they had that kind of attitude they would say, "Uh-huh." and thats it, that all they would say. But here they say "Yes." The brittle floors and tables and beds that are constantly collapsing under my 900 pound frame, the way you have to keep fixing your house all the time because materials and workmanship ain't no good, the way people don't appreciate my yodelling or my gifts. "Have some candy!" "No! Mai pet rai!" "No really! I insist!" "No! I not hungry!" "Well you can save it for later!" "I already have candy I save!" "Well you can give it to your sister then, right?" "I no have a sister i have 3 brothers." "Well give it to them!" "My brother old already, they don't eat candy!"   Its enough to make you want to move to a war zone! Aghh! Argh!

[HappyExpat57]

19 hours ago, sanuk711 said:

Do you mean your 2 insurances are paying for most of the surgery HappyExpat57 ?

If so --why quote one price here-that has no insurance 200K against a price that has insurance 10K.

 

Anyway--best of luck, you may want to look at medical lens that will allow you not to have to ever wear glasses again

I had it done here about 15 years ago, and can still pick up any newspaper etc & have no problem reading it.

The lenses are made in Texas, but your insurance wont cover for them, as they class them as a cosmetic enhancement.

Medicare and my supplemental won't cover me in Thailand.

 

And - COSMETIC ENHANCEMENT?!?!?  I'm going blind, that's cometic? Well, I dated an insurance agent, there is no bar too low for them.

[jacko45k]

14 hours ago, RobU said:

You have to go private to get anything now. Deliberate policy to remove free healthcare

Any comment as to the cost of going private in the UK? I have not been happy with insurance costs and limitations here in Thailand. 

[Chongalulu]

9 hours ago, RobU said:

If you are out of the UK for more than 9 months all rights to benefits are legally revoked including free NHS care, you have to remain in residency for a specified period. However most GP's and Hospitals either ignore it or are unaware of the ruling. This may change with the current pressure on the NHS

Not quite up to date. If you return to permanent residence (not just on a visit home) your NHS cover is effective immediately. Nor do I think the '9 months ' is correct 

[jacko45k]

8 hours ago, oslooskar said:

So, what do the doctors in the United Kingdom live on if they are treating everyone for free? Do they live in homeless shelters and panhandle for small change on the streets?

Err, are you for real?

They are paid by the State. Despite what they claim, quite well. Doctors come from many countries to seek jobs working for the UK NHS service. 

[sungod]

Majority of ASEAN NOW expat viewers want to remain in Thailand

 

But love to moan everyday about Thailand, threaten daily to leave but do nothing about it.

[jerrymahoney]

1 hour ago, sungod said:

Majority of ASEAN NOW expat viewers want to remain in Thailand

 

But love to moan everyday about Thailand, threaten daily to leave but do nothing about it.

Or as I have been recently advised by one our esteemed ex-resident Thailand members, I am only here because I am (somehow) stuck here.

Edited June 17, 2022 by jerrymahoney

[brianthainess]

23 hours ago, WinterGael said:

Thai people are rude, this country is expensive, the heat monotonous... 

And immigration is a forking nuisance and too intrusive. having home visit today (11.30), not only do they want our witness to be present, they want a fourth person ! for more photos !

[brianthainess]

2 hours ago, nchuckle said:

12 hours ago, RobU said:

If you are out of the UK for more than 9 months all rights to benefits are legally revoked including free NHS care, you have to remain in residency for a specified period. However most GP's and Hospitals either ignore it or are unaware of the ruling. This may change with the current pressure on the NHS

Not quite up to date. If you return to permanent residence (not just on a visit home) your NHS cover is effective immediately. Nor do I think the '9 months ' is correct 

How does a hospital/doctor know if you have been out of the UK ? unless you tell them. Asking for a friend. 

[sanuk711]

1 hour ago, HappyExpat57 said:

Medicare and my supplemental won't cover me in Thailand.

 

And - COSMETIC ENHANCEMENT?!?!?  I'm going blind, that's cometic? Well, I dated an insurance agent, there is no bar too low for them.

1/ Medicare and my supplemental won't cover me in Thailand.

No of course it wont--but it seems unfair on Thailand to quote a subsidized price in America against an Non subsidized  price in Thailand.

 

2/I'm going blind, that's cometic? Well, I dated an insurance agent, there is no bar too low for them.

All agree on that-- but it really is a really simple op HappyExpat-- I remember seeing a BBC program about 60 years ago. In Russia (for some reason)  everyone being called up for the army were failing the eyesight test. They had rows of beds and the surgeons would be walking down the line changing the lens. All done by hand then--by computer now.

 

No matter how hot it is over there--stay away from swimming pools for at least 3 weeks.

[Chongalulu]

40 minutes ago, brianthainess said:

How does a hospital/doctor know if you have been out of the UK ? unless you tell them. Asking for a friend. 

If you have continuously been registered with a GP using a U.K. address then should be no problem,but say you’ve been out of U.K. and not registered for many years red flags might occur. A hospital visit will entail them wanting to know who your GP is. There is also 'connectivity' whereby government departments share information. So say you renewed your U.K. passport in Thailand or tax authorities / DWP (pension) have you living in Thailand then you could get found out. 

[Neeranam]

3 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Any comment as to the cost of going private in the UK? I have not been happy with insurance costs and limitations here in Thailand. 

My mother just paid 13,000 pounds for a knee replacement. 

She could have got it here for half the price. 

[Burma Bill]

5 hours ago, sungod said:

threaten daily to leave but do nothing about it.

I certainly did after 20 years in Thailand. I made an instant decision to relocate and it was one of the best decisions in my life being totally independent. Due to coronavirus, the borders were soon closed. I am now enjoying my retirement in hassle free Siem Reap away from the Thai bureaucracy and madness .

[sungod]

24 minutes ago, Burma Bill said:

I certainly did after 20 years in Thailand. I made an instant decision to relocate and it was one of the best decisions in my life being totally independent. Due to coronavirus, the borders were soon closed. I am now enjoying my retirement in hassle free Siem Reap away from the Thai bureaucracy and madness .

Good to hear you are happy !

[Hummin]

5 hours ago, brianthainess said:

How does a hospital/doctor know if you have been out of the UK ? unless you tell them. Asking for a friend. 

I guess you have a security number connected to an address? 
 

As long you keep an valid address you are good, and immigration do not report your arrival after being out longer than the rule says. 

Edited June 17, 2022 by Hummin

[RobU]

6 hours ago, brianthainess said:

How does a hospital/doctor know if you have been out of the UK ? unless you tell them. Asking for a friend. 

I. It's the hospital administration who need to determine it not doctors 

2. I don't know I only quoted the rules 

My friend brought her father back to England from the USA because he has an expensive heart condition. He had been living and working there full time for years without returning to the UK he has successfully registered with a UK GP and gets all his care for free. What I was saying is that the checking process may be tightened up perhaps by cross referencing entry/exit with NHS number

 

 

 

[RobU]

6 hours ago, brianthainess said:

How does a hospital/doctor know if you have been out of the UK ? unless you tell them. Asking for a friend. 

 

8 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Any comment as to the cost of going private in the UK? I have not been happy with insurance costs and limitations here in Thailand. 

I had to go private once £80 for an appointment with a consultant. No idea about health insurance, pre existing conditions and age make it very expensive

[TaoNow]

On 6/16/2022 at 2:54 AM, webfact said:

We have had an enormous response from a topic we ran on June 8th entitled Is Thailand likely to see a mass exodus of Expats?

I wouldn't call 205 replies an "enormous response." 

 

That sort of summarizes how the Forum has declined over the years. 

 

When I first joined, there were many experienced ex-pats on the Forum who knew the culture, the language, and how to skilfully navigate life as an expat in Thailand. That was a real service for newbies and those thinking of visiting the country, or moving here.

 

There were also many more women members who posted.   How many women are there on the Forum today who post on this section or the Visas section, or the General section of the Forum?  How often do they post?

 

That is just one indicator of how the Forum has been taken over by (male) trolls, bullies, and ne'er-do-wells.

 

I have no idea why advertisers want to pitch products to that low-life, misfit crew on this website.

 

'Nuff said.

[Thujone]

17 hours ago, oslooskar said:

So, what do the doctors in the United Kingdom live on if they are treating everyone for free? Do they live in homeless shelters and panhandle for small change on the streets?

They aren't treating everybody for free.

They are paid from NHS funds.

The NHS is funded from taxation.

Those who use the NHS services aren't required to pay extra for the use of those services.

The payment has been covered from the foresaid taxation.

[Hummin]

16 minutes ago, TaoNow said:

I wouldn't call 205 replies an "enormous response." 

 

That sort of summarizes how the Forum has declined over the years. 

 

When I first joined, there were many experienced ex-pats on the Forum who knew the culture, the language, and how to skilfully navigate life as an expat in Thailand. That was a real service for newbies and those thinking of visiting the country, or moving here.

 

There were also many more women members who posted.   How many women are there on the Forum today who post on this section or the Visas section, or the General section of the Forum?  How often do they post?

 

That is just one indicator of how the Forum has been taken over by (male) trolls, bullies, and ne'er-do-wells.

 

I have no idea why advertisers want to pitch products to that low-life, misfit crew on this website.

 

'Nuff said.

Why doesnt women post more on this forum? Thats a good question? 
 

Lets me see how many forum users talks nice about local women here, and especially those “fat ugly gals” back home? 
 

If you state positive things about women her, then the majority of the users who reply, have something negative to say and argue. I believe one to ten is positive about women who are active and reply or make topics. 
 

This fora is not exactly a positive fora of men, for men and by men. Negativity rules the forum. 

[Thujone]

On 6/16/2022 at 1:28 PM, Kalasin Jo said:

And a returning long absent Brit expat will not immediately get back in to the system be it NHS or for benefits. Need to establish " habitual residence" at a specific address. At least 3 months, up to 6, to do that.

This from the current GOV.UK website.

'If you are a UK national living abroad and are returning to live in the UK, you will be able to use the NHS for your healthcare.

You will need to complete a GMS1 form to register with a GP near your home.

 

Anyone in England can register with a GP surgery. It's free to register.

You do not need proof of address or immigration status, ID or an NHS number.'

[oslooskar]

13 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Err, are you for real?

Why would you be asking me such a question? After all, I'm not the guy who claimed people were being treated free in the UK.... every day.

[oslooskar]

4 hours ago, Thujone said:

They aren't treating everybody for free.

Well, I'm glad the truth has finally come out. ????

[TropicalGuy]

On 6/16/2022 at 6:56 AM, jacko45k said:

Ill health is a concern. Medical services are often expensive here and most retirees hail from places where it is supplied free. 

 

Try Public Hospitals if not insured. Tariffs 25-35% private hospitals. Prepare though for long initial processing, lengthy waits at each “ stage” & huge crowds of old sick Thais, many dying slowly right in front of you. ????????

[TropicalGuy]

4 hours ago, Thujone said:

This from the current GOV.UK website.

'If you are a UK national living abroad and are returning to live in the UK, you will be able to use the NHS for your healthcare.

You will need to complete a GMS1 form to register with a GP near your home.

 

Anyone in England can register with a GP surgery. It's free to register.

You do not need proof of address or immigration status, ID or an NHS number.'

Might be very long NHS waiting lists though post- Covid ? ☹️????