THE WEEK THAT WAS Such a positive vibe in Bangkok as tourists, Thai sellers, locals and even a Thong Lo cop celebrate the end of ganja prohibition!

[Moonlover]

23 hours ago, RafPinto said:

The german guy forgot his mask and proud, queueing to buy some weed.

Good for him. It's time more people began to let it be known that masks are yesterday's fashion item. Thailand, in case you'd forgotten is the 'Land of Smiles'. It's time we started seeing more of those smiles. A lot more!

[BonMot]

Yet another reason to avoid Thong Lor. Riding the BTS the few stops I needed daily without cringey farang tourists wearing ratty t-shirts, short shorts, singlets, dark glasses (soooo cool) and rubber flip flops. Now, add flashpackers looking to score illegal weed at 500b gram which is over 14000 an ounce.

 

Perfect for Thong Lor cops. Another money making opportunity.

 

Far, far better to reduce taxes on wine and spirits. Weed addicts are worthless.

[BonMot]

19 hours ago, Snig27 said:

When marijuana use triggers psychosis, there may be several different symptoms, all characterized by a break with reality. Common marijuana psychosis symptoms are paranoid delusions, suspiciousness, and a sense of grandiosity. Other potential symptoms include hallucinations, dissociation or a feeling of detachment and unreality, disorganized and disturbed thoughts, inappropriate emotional responses, and unusual changes in behavior. In most cases symptoms resolve once drug use is stopped.

and 

Psychotic symptoms are all characterized by a loss of touch with reality. While most people who use marijuana will never experience this, use of cannabis can trigger an episode of psychosis. It can cause symptoms like hallucinations, delusions, disordered thoughts, unusual behaviors and emotional responses, paranoia, suspicion, and others.

https://www.brightquest.com/cannabis-induced-psychosis/psychotic-symptoms-in-marijuana-smokers/#:~:text=Common marijuana psychosis symptoms are,and unusual changes in behavior.

That's a giant step away from "some lunatic with psychosis induced from marijuana goes on a rampage."

Move your brain out of the 1930s.

And, no, I don't smoke the stuff and haven't for 40 years.

Chronic pot addicts make light of the trauma which spinning, nausea, inebriation, paranoia and disassociation with reality all very real if the person has no tolerance for the stuff and has done a few bong rips of high thc ganja. Especially if they have never smoked before.

 

Mixing alcohol and weed...

 

There will be hospitalizations.

[Wagga]

14 hours ago, thaitot said:

In the USA specifically Washington state you can get all green bud for $ 30.00 an ounce out the door it seems crazy. I just don’t consume it but have lots of friends that do. I am not really sure how this will draw people.  

Why do people keep posting about American prices, which has absolutely no bearing on this thread. You can rattle off as many US (and various other country's) prices as you like, it will not change prices here. 

This is Thailand =Thailand prices.

[Wagga]

24 minutes ago, BonMot said:

Yet another reason to avoid Thong Lor. Riding the BTS the few stops I needed daily without cringey farang tourists wearing ratty t-shirts, short shorts, singlets, dark glasses (soooo cool) and rubber flip flops. Now, add flashpackers looking to score illegal weed at 500b gram which is over 14000 an ounce.

 

Perfect for Thong Lor cops. Another money making opportunity.

 

Far, far better to reduce taxes on wine and spirits. Weed addicts are worthless.

Nothing wrong with wearing shades (unless it's night time)   ????

And most of the time it has nothing to do with 'looking cool'. it's duta, due to the fact the sun is bright.

[spidermike007]

18 hours ago, alex8912 said:

Then how can millions of Americans who have been purchasing legal weed in many states NEVER EVER have had ANYTHING compared to a bad acid trip!!  This of course includes weed that is 30% and higher in THC levels. You are scare mongering beyond belief!  Acid and weed are completely incomparable. Your post should be flushed down the toilet! 

Thank you. It is likely the folks on here with the prognostications of the end of Thailand, and huge problems to come have never even smoked. Or have a religious agenda, or are similarly deluded into believing absolute nonsense about ganga. 

[spidermike007]

1 hour ago, BonMot said:

Chronic pot addicts make light of the trauma which spinning, nausea, inebriation, paranoia and disassociation with reality all very real if the person has no tolerance for the stuff and has done a few bong rips of high thc ganja. Especially if they have never smoked before.

 

Mixing alcohol and weed...

 

There will be hospitalizations.

1. Calling a pot smoker an addict is a bit of a stretch. Though there are some psychological aspect to trying to kick the habit, it is a fairly easy habit to break. I did after smoking for 20 plus years, without much difficulty. Unlike alcohol or tobacco, there is very little in the way of a physiological dependency when it comes to ganga. It is mostly mental.

2. Yes, I agree if someone has no experience smoking the new high THC ganga, they can get pretty high, and it could lead to paranoia, dizziness, spinning, etc, especially if combined with alcohol. For 99% in that situation, all they need is several hours of sleep. Hospitalizations will be very rare. I speak from experience. 

 

 

[spidermike007]

10 hours ago, sawadee1947 said:

The prices are still not high enough to stop druggies from that nonsense......????

Stop druggies from that nonsense? How to interpret such a statement.

Was that simply purile judgment?

Ignorance about the joys of ganga? 

A fake puritan world view?

A holier than thou attitude about the fact that you do not smoke ganga? 

How do you label someone who enjoys some ganga a druggie, but someone who uses prescription drugs, not a druggie? 

 

I am not a smoker. But, I used to smoke for a long time. Used in moderation, I found ganga to be delightful, as it enhanced dancing, music, and many activities, and allowed some perceptive on my life. Not to mention the burst of creativity that can come with being high.

 

Why such judgment? Have you ever looked within, to establish the dark place that is coming from?

[GarryP]

9 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

1. Calling a pot smoker an addict is a bit of a stretch. Though there are some psychological aspect to trying to kick the habit, it is a fairly easy habit to break. I did after smoking for 20 plus years, without much difficulty. Unlike alcohol or tobacco, there is very little in the way of a physiological dependency when it comes to ganga. It is mostly mental.

2. Yes, I agree if someone has no experience smoking the new high THC ganga, they can get pretty high, and it could lead to paranoia, dizziness, spinning, etc, especially if combined with alcohol. For 99% in that situation, all they need is several hours of sleep. Hospitalizations will be very rare. I speak from experience. 

 

 

I read your post too late. ???? Had only a couple of drags on a joint made of the new stuff on Friday night. First in many, many years. While my mates who are regular users, were fine, although perhaps a bit more chilled than usual, I was sat holding the table and smiling as I felt I had lost my balance (probably dizziness but it did not feel like it and I have had a lot of experience with that from benign paroxysmal positional vertigo). Mates told me it would pass in 20 minutes or so and it did.  Don't think it is for me though.    

[spidermike007]

12 hours ago, SunsetT said:

But keep it away from young teenagers whose brains are still developing. I used to support tenants in the UK with mental health problems, 2 of whom were lads in their early Twenties. They both had parents of the Sixties Hippy generation who, believing it harmless, had allowed them and their mates to regularly smoke (bong parties etc.) in their  homes from a very young age. These two lads had consequently developed psychosis and schizophrenic symptoms. Consequently they will require antipsychotic medication, medical, welfare and social support and will probably never be able to work for the rest of their lives. A tragic waste of their lives. I was informed that, with the ever increasing THC levels in the Cannabis hybrids being grown,  they were not isolated cases and it was an increasing problem acknowledged by psychiatry.

 

I dont think it is a question of 'weak minds' but I think those who are 'highly strung' should avoid any drugs that make them higher. The clue is in the word 'highly'.

 

I personally stopped smoking it many years ago after concluding that, similar to an alcohol hangover, for the next day or two after smoking, it interfered too much in my common sense practical thinking and functioning. I believe that every drug has it's pay back. I acknowledge though, that weed is great for enhancing  philosophical, creative, imaginative and artistic thinking and abilities, and, more importantly, it can help break through one's country's social and cultural conditioning/programming and help you, if you so wish, to observe and understand the World more objectively.

 

Thais will be OK though, as they dont have any common sense practical thinking to f*** up...555.

 

You make some good points. I do agree that smoking very powerful ganga does have it's consequences. For me, I found that it messed with my concentration abilities, and made it harder to focus for a couple of days afterwards. No question, it is strong stuff. And for some, it appears to dull the sense of ambition. Also, with the new generation of ganga, it can be very powerful. For those who are not used to it, it requires some discipline, to know how much you can handle. That became a problem for me, as I loved the ritualistic aspect of smoking, and the stuff became so potent, and it was hard to put it down after just two hits. Some of the stuff I was smoking we called "two hit quit". It was that powerful. Beyond two hits, all bets were off, even for someone used to the stuff. 

 

I started using ganga, and hallucinogenics when I was 13. That was just the era and the place I was living in at the time. I did alot of them. Many of my young friends were doing cocaine and heroin. Thankfully that stuff never appealed to me. I found cocaine to be the most over rated drug ever, and heroin was too scary, and I did not like being near comatose. That did not look like fun at all, when I witnessed some friends high on the stuff. The hallucinogenics helped me tremendously to gain perceptions of the world, my life, and a philosophy about it all. It allowed me to have perceptions well beyond my years. I likely lost a few IQ points along the way. But, there were no long term effects.

 

Again, if a young person with a fragile mind is using, there are chances of problems developing. That likely relates to people who are prone to having mental health issues too, and also addictive personalities, for sure.

 

But, that will not be the case for the vast majority. 

[KhunLA]

11 hours ago, sawadee1947 said:

The prices are still not high enough to stop druggies from that nonsense......????

'Druggies' ... ????

 

Unlike cig smokers, they are not physically addicted.  How many cig smokers told themselves "when it gets to $1 € or £ a pack, I'll quit"... and yet ... ????

[spidermike007]

15 hours ago, CartagenaWarlock said:

In Canada it is around $3/gram. USA it is around $20/gram. I asked many people why it is so cheap in Canada and so expensive in USA. Nobody could gave me convincing answer. In Thailand are they selling flowers or leaves? Does it show THC content? Or is it a big scam?

It would appear prices are dropping, due to competition. Many now say in the US you can get higher end stuff for $6-10 a gram. Likely depends on where, and what you consider to be higher end stuff. 

[spidermike007]

35 minutes ago, GarryP said:

I read your post too late. ???? Had only a couple of drags on a joint made of the new stuff on Friday night. First in many, many years. While my mates who are regular users, were fine, although perhaps a bit more chilled than usual, I was sat holding the table and smiling as I felt I had lost my balance (probably dizziness but it did not feel like it and I have had a lot of experience with that from benign paroxysmal positional vertigo). Mates told me it would pass in 20 minutes or so and it did.  Don't think it is for me though.    

Same happened with my wife. We were in Sonoma, at some friends home, enjoying some amazing local Pinot Noir. My friends are smokers. They offered some to her. I warned her to be careful, knowing how powerful their stuff was. She took two good sized hits, and within 10 minutes, she was out of it. Everything was spinning, and I suggested she take a nap. Two hours later she was fine. She never felt the need to smoke again. She had smoked before, but never anything like that stuff. And it likely had a more dramatic effect due to the alcohol already in her system. Mixing both can be very intense and very intoxicating. 

[BonMot]

Then there's this...

 

Chronic pot smokers never amount to anything in life. How can you function at the best of your capacity while high af?

 

The old psa about living in the parents basement very true.

 

The only productive people I've ever met who were habitual smokers were growers.

[Bday Prang]

18 hours ago, Rocking Robert said:

How many people will lose their jobs or. Not be hired for failing the drug testing requirements 

What testing requirements?  Stop giving them Ideas

[jacko45k]

19 hours ago, StayinThailand2much said:

 

At the same time, another, thirsty foreigner, all grown-up and also in Bangkok, couldn't buy a bottle of a golden-coloured liquid, let's simply call it "beer", because it was only 4:30 in the afternoon... Amazing Thailand! ????

It might be nice if I could get my supplies to fill up my fridge while I do my early Sunday shop....

[Bday Prang]

For once a somewhat positive post regarding the relaxation of the ridiculous politically motivated prohibition of cannabis. However it was predictably hi-jacked by the very vocal and badly informed self appointed anti cannabis "community"  If you don't like it just stay away from it and leave the rest of us to enjoy it in peace.  Its legal now so you are just going to have to get over it as there is absolutely nothing you can do about it.

             

              Far more constructive advice would be, if trying it for the first time take things easy, perhaps speak to an experienced smoker  (there's plenty on here who I am sure would be willing to give advice)  Personally I would recommend staying away from edibles at first as its difficult to judge intake. and just bear in mind that if trying alcohol for the first time it probably wouldn't be wise to start off by consuming a full bottle of scotch would it.   

[StayinThailand2much]

4 hours ago, Wagga said:

Cool, one less potential drunk on the roads (until 4:30)

I'm not from Oz, where binge-drinking is the norm... ????

[Nickelbeer]

The only improvement I can see is that weed possession may not draw such draconian sentences. That remains to be seen, though. It serves the purpose of reducing the number of those in prison for merely using, rather than dealing.

[herfiehandbag]

On 6/18/2022 at 9:55 AM, stoner said:

this is a gag comment right ? 

 

no one goes on marijuana fueled rampages

I am sorry but it happens. For a few years before I came to Thailand I worked as a Taxi Driver in a west country city (UK). Not through choice, I was caring for my mother who had dementia and it was a job which gave me the total flexibility I needed.

 

One night I was dragged from the car and badly beaten ( for refusing to reduce the metered fare). I received a kick to the head which resulted in damage to my left eye which means I now have limited peripheral vision and need to have a spectacle lens for that eye which resembles the bottom of a jam jar. My assailants were also convicted of robbing two other taxi drivers, including a Pole who they threatened at knife point, taking his wedding ring. They were eventually convicted of all three offences, robbery and causing grevious bodily harm.

 

The common thread to all three offences, according to the police, they were heavy cannabis users and had been using it prior to the attacks.

Heavy use of cannabis screws your brain, and other people's lives up.

 

It is not just a warm fuzzy harmless feeling.

[stoner]

1 hour ago, herfiehandbag said:

I am sorry but it happens

 

1 hour ago, herfiehandbag said:

One night

 

1 hour ago, herfiehandbag said:

The common thread to all three offences, according to the police, they were heavy cannabis users and had been using it prior to the attacks.

so you have a personalized event relating to this topic. big deal. sorry to hear you had that experience but i beg to differ that cannabis was the reason for your attack. 

 

lets try this one more time as to avoid any further misunderstandings......

 

for the sheer amount of cannabis smoked every day on this planet the number of incidents related to that smoking is so low it can almost statistically be 0. so when i make a generalized comment like it never happens....this is what i'm referring to.

 

1 hour ago, herfiehandbag said:

Heavy use of cannabis screws your brain, and other people's lives up.

this is your personal opinion. nothing more. 

[spidermike007]

So, you are a believer in reefer madness, and still embracing a fear campaign created 90 years ago?

 

Ganga creates peace. Alcohol seems to inspire violence. Which is the greater detriment to society? 

 

[Wagga]

4 hours ago, StayinThailand2much said:

I'm not from Oz, where binge-drinking is the norm... ????

I would like to suggest binge drinking occurs in many country's. No need to point the bone at Oz mate.

And seeing as you state you are not from Oz, what makes you qualified to say it is the norm there.

[StayinThailand2much]

1 hour ago, Wagga said:

I would like to suggest binge drinking occurs in many country's. No need to point the bone at Oz mate.

And seeing as you state you are not from Oz, what makes you qualified to say it is the norm there.

Right the first link on Google about 'drinking culture in Oz': "There are a few countries around the world that have a reputation of loving to drink. Ireland is one of them. Russia is another. And with their Foster’s beer, Australia is another. (...) But overall, the drinking culture in Australia does tend to be stronger than it is in other countries." - Besides, you started it, making fun of my comment, that I couldn't buy a bottle of beer, while cannabis was easily available. Wonder, if it is the same in Oz, but I doubt it. Mind you, I don't care, whether you consume 3g or 3kg of marijuana, but I still find it odd that, at the same time, I cannot buy some beer, because it's afternoon...

[Wagga]

7 hours ago, BonMot said:

Then there's this...

 

Chronic pot smokers never amount to anything in life. How can you function at the best of your capacity while high af?

 

The old psa about living in the parents basement very true.

 

The only productive people I've ever met who were habitual smokers were growers.

I recon you need to get out of your cave and meet more people then.

What an completely stupid and closed minded thing to say.

And the 'old psa' about living in parents basement is just as stupid. That is purely an American thing, and I think has a lot of (American) urban myth attached to it.

[Wagga]

1 hour ago, StayinThailand2much said:

Right the first link on Google about 'drinking culture in Oz': "There are a few countries around the world that have a reputation of loving to drink. Ireland is one of them. Russia is another. And with their Foster’s beer, Australia is another. (...) But overall, the drinking culture in Australia does tend to be stronger than it is in other countries." - Besides, you started it, making fun of my comment, that I couldn't buy a bottle of beer, while cannabis was easily available. Wonder, if it is the same in Oz, but I doubt it. Mind you, I don't care, whether you consume 3g or 3kg of marijuana, but I still find it odd that, at the same time, I cannot buy some beer, because it's afternoon...

And it says  "But overall, the 'drinking culture' in Australia does tend to be stronger than it is in other countries."

 

The words 'drinking culture' in no way imply's binge drinking. It just means they drink a tad more beer, nothing about binge drinking.

[Bday Prang]

1 hour ago, StayinThailand2much said:

Right the first link on Google about 'drinking culture in Oz': "There are a few countries around the world that have a reputation of loving to drink. Ireland is one of them. Russia is another. And with their Foster’s beer, Australia is another. (...) But overall, the drinking culture in Australia does tend to be stronger than it is in other countries." - Besides, you started it, making fun of my comment, that I couldn't buy a bottle of beer, while cannabis was easily available. Wonder, if it is the same in Oz, but I doubt it. Mind you, I don't care, whether you consume 3g or 3kg of marijuana, but I still find it odd that, at the same time, I cannot buy some beer, because it's afternoon...

The reason you couldn't get a drink in the afternoon is, that like it or not, its actually the law, however seeing as only the larger supermarkets and 7/11 actually adhere to that policy you weren't really trying very hard were you.

The reason that cannabis is available is because the law now permits it. You need to accept it

[Bday Prang]

11 hours ago, BonMot said:

Chronic pot addicts make light of the trauma which spinning, nausea, inebriation, paranoia and disassociation with reality all very real if the person has no tolerance for the stuff and has done a few bong rips of high thc ganja. Especially if they have never smoked before.

 

Mixing alcohol and weed...

 

There will be hospitalizations.

heavy drinkers make light of the trauma which spinning ,nausea, inebriation, paranoia and disassociation with reality all very real if you are not used to drinking 40% by volume alchohol ore even just 5% by volume beer in sufficient quantities.

nothing to do with weed     just alcohol  there have been many and will be more hospitalizations but not many on here complaining about cannabis are so vocal about alcohol,  why is that?

[Bday Prang]

8 hours ago, BonMot said:

Then there's this...

 

Chronic pot smokers never amount to anything in life. How can you function at the best of your capacity while high af?

 

The old psa about living in the parents basement very true.

 

The only productive people I've ever met who were habitual smokers were growers.

And then there's  this....

 

chronic drinkers never amount to anything in life. How can you function at the best of your capacity while drunk af?

 

The old psa about living in salvation army hostels or under disused railway bridges or in derelict buildings is very true.

 

The only thing chronic drinkers produce is urine often covering their own clothes and bedding

[Bday Prang]

11 hours ago, BonMot said:

Yet another reason to avoid Thong Lor. Riding the BTS the few stops I needed daily without cringey farang tourists wearing ratty t-shirts, short shorts, singlets, dark glasses (soooo cool) and rubber flip flops. Now, add flashpackers looking to score illegal weed at 500b gram which is over 14000 an ounce.

 

Perfect for Thong Lor cops. Another money making opportunity.

 

Far, far better to reduce taxes on wine and spirits. Weed addicts are worthless.

The weed is NOT illegal although I can't fault your maths.  On the other hand presumably alcoholics are people of the highest quality and can only benefit society