Legalisation of 5 chttps://aseannow.com/topic/1264485-legalisation-of-5-casinos-proposed-in-thailand-with-30-tax-collection/asinos proposed in Thailand with 30% tax collection

[blackshadow]

On 6/30/2022 at 1:22 PM, Mike Teavee said:

Was living in Singapore when the Casinos opened & you couldn't get into a taxi without the uncle (driver) telling you about their latest visit... These guys had to pay s$100 to enter but they just viewed this as a part of their gambling stake.

 

 

 

 

that was to casino at marina bay sands ...........

[realfunster]

On 6/30/2022 at 5:19 PM, Bangkok Barry said:

Legal casinos won't happen because the people behind the illegal ones would lose mountains of money. And those with that money are very powerful and influential people, and those people win. Always. The law bends to them, it doesn't punish them. Especially in a place like Thailand, as every one of us knows.

True, but do we know who is behind this move ?

Maybe they are even more influential or even amongst, ahem,  the most influential people…

[HaoleBoy]

Might be better than having the Chinese come in and build / run casinos in Thailand as they are doing in Cambodia and other places.

 

The Chinese even tried to open a casino in N. Mariana Islands (a US territory close to Guam).  The Governor there is currently under indictment for bribery, money laundering and more ...

[Mike Teavee]

3 hours ago, blackshadow said:

that was to casino at marina bay sands ...........

Yes, Plus the one at Hard Rock Hotel near Sentosa.

 

They need 2 Casinos as the Uncle's (Taxi Drivers) used to tell me that if they were unlucky in 1, they would go over to the other one. 

[blackshadow]

4 hours ago, Mike Teavee said:

Yes, Plus the one at Hard Rock Hotel near Sentosa.

 

They need 2 Casinos as the Uncle's (Taxi Drivers) used to tell me that if they were unlucky in 1, they would go over to the other one. 

yaa i been to both in singapore

[greeneking]

On 6/30/2022 at 1:54 PM, zzzzz said:

Wont ever happen
to many influential people have serious $$$ in the casinos in Burma, Laos & Cambodia

I think you are right. Do we have some names?

[Gottfrid]

On 6/30/2022 at 11:15 AM, Bluespunk said:

It won't.

How do you know?

[jacko45k]

I never thought  this would happen but it does seem to be gaining momentum. 

[ThailandRyan]

3 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

I never thought  this would happen but it does seem to be gaining momentum. 

If it does occur, as I said before, I feel sorry for those who have gambling problems and their families.  Had a mate who lost his house here in Thailand due to his wife having a gambling problem, and loosing his house in a game of Hi-Lo while he was out of the country dealing with his very ill mother.  

[Bluespunk]

5 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

How do you know?

I just do. 

[SatEng]

On 6/30/2022 at 3:33 PM, superal said:

Over 20s only is a good thing . Look at the Cambodian casinos with young children running around . 

Thinking they would want proof of funds/cash ( open your wallet or be a known hi-so) in order to show you have the means to gamble and not be an onlooker . There are folk that enter Cambodian casinos with a few coins and spend all day sat in punters seats , very annoying .

To those who condemn this venture on the grounds that it will encourage gambling and make the poor poorer , they do not come into the equation because this country only rewards the rich and has been that way for some time e.g. no social security or safety net . The casinos are being set up for those who have money , not a couple of baht . 

I suppose that the 30% is on the declared profits ? I hope that the government will set up a commissioner to regulate the gambling business as is done in most Western countries .  I say bravo to the Thai government for this move to the modern world . 

If this is done as a "concession" then the 30% may be on the top line revenues, not profits - I know of other concessions with such a scheme

[SatEng]

Although it does not specifically mention a casino in Pattaya I would expect that the concession would go to the new aquatique/marriott development planned for next to the Hard Rock Hotel - of course owned by CP

[Gottfrid]

35 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

I just do. 

That was short and avoiding. So, actually you do not know.

[Bluespunk]

Just now, Gottfrid said:

That was short and avoiding. So, actually you do not know.

I didn’t say any such thing. 

[Gottfrid]

4 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

I didn’t say any such thing. 

So, if somebody ask you how you can know something, and you answer with "I just do", like is something you do not accept from others. Then that is not avoiding to answer? You do not need to say such thing in plain words, as you did it good in hidden message. However, feel free to answer my initial questing about how you know?

[Bluespunk]

9 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

So, if somebody ask you how you can know something, and you answer with "I just do", like is something you do not accept from others. Then that is not avoiding to answer? You do not need to say such thing in plain words, as you did it good in hidden message. However, feel free to answer my initial questing about how you know?

I already have. 

[Gottfrid]

1 minute ago, Bluespunk said:

I already have. 

Yes, sure you have. I misunderstood. Sorry. It was like this. Why is the egg rotten? Because it is! Thanks.

[Bluespunk]

22 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

Yes, sure you have. I misunderstood. Sorry. It was like this. Why is the egg rotten? Because it is! Thanks.

Good to see that’s all sorted out now then. 

Edited July 17, 2022 by Bluespunk

[connda]

Like most "Sin Crime" where Vice Squads throw otherwise good people in jail - eventually the government figures out that if it legalizes the activity, they can regulate and tax it.

Why throw money making scheme participants in jail.  Just join the club and vacuum in the tax revenue.

[connda]

On 6/30/2022 at 10:42 AM, ThailandRyan said:

Do these people even care that there is already a gambling problem here in Thailand, and folks go into debt and some lose houses, cars and so on.  Of course it is no different in other countries that have casinos, but the problems they have now and without the casinos will triple or quadruple.  Add in the prostitution, mafia types, and then the goons.  Keep the country devoid of Casino's, a better bet would be to allow foreigners to own land, capped at a small percentage for each area.

I'm not a nanny state proponents.  It's not the government's job to baby-sit the population especially when it comes to "Sin Crime" and Vice. 

Now - I do believe that part of that 30% that the government will rake in should be earmarked for medical programs to help gambling addicts.  But making all gambling illegal so that a few people who can't control their impulses are 'protected' (by throwing them in prison on Vice charges) isn't economically wise.

Most people who gamble are not addicts.  I enjoyed betting on horses at the tracks in the US, and I enjoyed an occasional vacation to Reno back in the day.  I always liked the sound and the feel.  I'd play blackjack sometimes and usually did pretty well (in the long-run the house always wins unless you're card counting).  But honestly?  My favorite thing to do was to by $2 worth of nickles and play the nickle slots back before they were digital.  Interestingly, I almost always came way with more then I started with.  Once the slot went digital I stopped vacationing in Reno.
Yes - there are gambling addicts.  There are nicotine addicts, sex addicts, heroin addicts, alcohol addicts and addicts in all shapes and colors and sizes.
Addiction needs to be addressed by medical intervention and counseling.  Not by throwing otherwise good people into jail. 
Portugal has a good program for drug addiction.  That could be expanded to help other addicts.  Most of us are not addicts.
We don't need the government standing over the public's shoulder and threatening the public with prison for betting on their favorite chicken in a cock fight.  Or for placing a bet on a football match.

[superal]

On 7/17/2022 at 1:22 PM, SatEng said:

If this is done as a "concession" then the 30% may be on the top line revenues, not profits - I know of other concessions with such a scheme

Not only will I be happy to see casinos in Thailand , which is inevitable as Thailand emerges into the real world , I would like to see legalised on line betting , betting shops and an above board , western type lottery with draw tickets bought at say 7-11 by way of a computerised system using numbers of your choice and  where all the income is distributed in an open book way . The prizes would be far more attractive and donations made to good causes / charities  . Betting has been going on , in some form or another , for many years in Thailand . Bars & places of pleasure have been here for many years , should they be closed because of alcoholics and sex pests ?

[worgeordie]

So they have legalised Pot , next  casino's , then that just

leaves Prostitution ,to officially decriminalize ,the revenue

for the Police is going to end up very low, just about leaves

drivers....

regards Worgeordie