Eleven Conservatives now bidding to be next UK prime minister

[3NUMBAS]

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1640910/Boris-Johnson-rishi-sunak-tory-leadership-contest-update

 

Boris begs for Tories to defeat Rishi Sunak as he 'planned' coup for month 'It's personal'

BORIS JOHNSON is urging failed Tory leadership candidates to push back against Rishi Sunak, the former Chancellor whose stab in the back to the PM ultimately led to his resignation.

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1 minute ago, 3NUMBAS said:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1640910/Boris-Johnson-rishi-sunak-tory-leadership-contest-update

 

Boris begs for Tories to defeat Rishi Sunak as he 'planned' coup for month 'It's personal'

BORIS JOHNSON is urging failed Tory leadership candidates to push back against Rishi Sunak, the former Chancellor whose stab in the back to the PM ultimately led to his resignation.

Perhaps BJ believes that backstabbing a PM is an activity that he's singularly entitled to:

 

Boris Johnson leads backstabbing race for Theresa May's job amid Brexit chaos

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-leads-backstabbing-race-16186349

[Chomper Higgot]

17 minutes ago, 3NUMBAS said:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1640910/Boris-Johnson-rishi-sunak-tory-leadership-contest-update

 

Boris begs for Tories to defeat Rishi Sunak as he 'planned' coup for month 'It's personal'

BORIS JOHNSON is urging failed Tory leadership candidates to push back against Rishi Sunak, the former Chancellor whose stab in the back to the PM ultimately led to his resignation.

Johnson keeping it classy.

[brewsterbudgen]

4 hours ago, JonnyF said:

More desirable than being a lieing war criminal? 

 

I'd say the onus was on Blair not to lie, rather than on the Tories to correctly assess whether he was lieing or not. Lieing is not allowed in the House of Commons, nor is calling someone a liar. The Tories therefore can be forgiven for believing he was being truthful. After all, it takes a special kind of evil to lie about something in order to make war (and thousands of deaths) possible. 

 

Blaming the Tories for Blair's lieing and subsequent war crimes is frankly, ridiculous.

The whole nonsense about Blair/Bush "lying" when Saddam had killed thousands with WMDs, suits both the Tories and the far-left George Galloway brigade.  Tony would make a fine Tory leader...

[candide]

5 hours ago, JonnyF said:

More desirable than being a lieing war criminal? 

 

I'd say the onus was on Blair not to lie, rather than on the Tories to correctly assess whether he was lieing or not. Lieing is not allowed in the House of Commons, nor is calling someone a liar. The Tories therefore can be forgiven for believing he was being truthful. After all, it takes a special kind of evil to lie about something in order to make war (and thousands of deaths) possible. 

 

Blaming the Tories for Blair's lieing and subsequent war crimes is frankly, ridiculous.

Come on. Everybody knew there were no WDM. The French I.S. knew it and the British intelligence in Irak was at least as well introduced, if not better. It was all about "the special relationship" with the USA and the Tories were as keen to preserve it as Tony Blair. 

[JonnyF]

24 minutes ago, candide said:

Come on. Everybody knew there were no WDM. The French I.S. knew it and the British intelligence in Irak was at least as well introduced, if not better. It was all about "the special relationship" with the USA and the Tories were as keen to preserve it as Tony Blair. 

It's never Labour's fault, is it?

 

Their record while in power and their failure to own their mistakes is why they've been out of power for so long with no sign of a return.

 

After Blair's war crimes they deserve at least a couple of decades in the wilderness. It could be more.

 

Blair killed thousands. Boris had a party. 

 

The electorate are not as stupid as you wish them to be.

[candide]

15 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

It's never Labour's fault, is it?

 

Their record while in power and their failure to own their mistakes is why they've been out of power for so long with no sign of a return.

 

After Blair's war crimes they deserve at least a couple of decades in the wilderness. It could be more.

 

Blair killed thousands. Boris had a party. 

 

The electorate are not as stupid as you wish them to be.

Obviously, it was Blair's fault. I don't deny it and I think he should have been punished.

 

But the fact that there was no WDM was an open secret that most politicians were just pretending to ignore because of the "special relationship".

[bannork]

14 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

It's never Labour's fault, is it?

 

Their record while in power and their failure to own their mistakes is why they've been out of power for so long with no sign of a return.

 

After Blair's war crimes they deserve at least a couple of decades in the wilderness. It could be more.

 

Blair killed thousands. Boris had a party. 

 

The electorate are not as stupid as you wish them to be.

200,000 UK citizens have died from Covid during Johnson's tenure whilst he partied.

The Tories have been hammered in every recent by- election, even in cast iron seats.

The public have shown their disgust for Johnson and his lies. The Tory financiers realised he had turned into a liability so he had to go.

The shot economy with rampant inflation and staggering energy price increases is a poisoned chalice for the next Tory leader.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Bluespunk]

From the debate…truss having a mare but tugendhat  is prodding posterior 

 

“Tom Tugendhat has said that when, as Chancellor, Rishi Sunak was trying to persuade Tugendhat to vote for tax rises, the reason Sunak gave was “because the boss wanted it”. There is an audible gasp in the room.

And it leaves an open question about Sunak’s tactics …”

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2022/jul/15/tory-leadership-race-penny-mordaunt-liz-truss-rishi-sunak-debates-uk-politics-latest?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Edited July 15, 2022 by Bluespunk

[Loiner]

Both MSM and lefty posters appear to be inordinately interested in the machinations within the Conservative party.  It’s almost as if they had a finger in creating the current situation. If they put as much effort into their own Labour Party leadership it might have chance of winning an election on day. 

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2 hours ago, Loiner said:

Both MSM and lefty posters appear to be inordinately interested in the machinations within the Conservative party.  It’s almost as if they had a finger in creating the current situation. If they put as much effort into their own Labour Party leadership it might have chance of winning an election on day. 

Do you understand that it's up to the moderators to provide topics in this forum?

[Loiner]

20 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Do you understand that it's up to the moderators to provide topics in this forum?

And it’s up to the posters what they reply to. 
MSM are lapping bit up. Nothing else interesting to report, or really wanting to influence politics?

[transam]

15 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I think it fairer to hold each MP to account for their own voting record.

 

It avoids having to argue they are easily lead fools.

 

(Bringing you back to Topic)

 

This is especially significant given the fact that the subject leadership election has come about as the direct result of the lies of the PM who is being replaced.

 

Let’s judge the candidates on their record of supporting a blatant liar.

You seem to have forgotten that the UK populace, even your socialists, voted for a party led by YOUR "blatant liar" in the resent general election.

 

Why did they do that....?  ????

 

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11 hours ago, bannork said:

200,000 UK citizens have died from Covid during Johnson's tenure whilst he partied.

The Tories have been hammered in every recent by- election, even in cast iron seats.

The public have shown their disgust for Johnson and his lies. The Tory financiers realised he had turned into a liability so he had to go.

The shot economy with rampant inflation and staggering energy price increases is a poisoned chalice for the next Tory leader.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry, I had to laugh at that lot.....????

[transam]

I note that Jacob Rees-Mogg will retire to the back bench if Rishi Sunak becomes leader, will not serve in his cabinet if asked. Hmmmmmmmm....???? 

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6 minutes ago, transam said:

I note that Jacob Rees-Mogg will retire to the back bench if Rishi Sunak becomes leader, will not serve in his cabinet if asked. Hmmmmmmmm....???? 

That's what's called an incentive.

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3 hours ago, Loiner said:

And it’s up to the posters what they reply to. 
MSM are lapping bit up. Nothing else interesting to report, or really wanting to influence politics?

Because it's such an uncontroversial topic? Really?

[transam]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

That's what's called an incentive.

I like ol' Moggy, he could run rings round the opposition by just talking them into oblivion..????

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1 minute ago, transam said:

I like ol' Moggy, he could run rings round the opposition by just talking them into oblivion..????

If by oblivion you mean stupor, I agree.

[transam]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

If by oblivion you mean stupor, I agree.

Well yes, because the opposition have difficulty understanding anything beyond 4 letter words, especially the second in command....????

[JonnyF]

5 minutes ago, transam said:

I like ol' Moggy, he could run rings round the opposition by just talking them into oblivion..????

He takes a lot of flak because of his appearance, eccentricity, wealth and accent but he actually talks a lot of sense.

 

A debate between him and someone like Rayner is like putting Mike Tyson against Mr Bean.

 

Like The Moggster I also dislike Sunak. I think he will make it to the last 2 and lose the members vote.

 

Politically I am most closely aligned to Kemi but I dont think she'll win so I'm hoping for Truss or Mordant.

[transam]

3 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

He takes a lot of flak because of his appearance, eccentricity, wealth and accent but he actually talks a lot of sense.

 

A debate between him and someone like Rayner is like putting Mike Tyson against Mr Bean.

 

Like The Moggster I also dislike Sunak. I think he will make it to the last 2 and lose the members vote.

 

Politically I am most closely aligned to Kemi but I dont think she'll win so I'm hoping for Truss or Mordant.

Me too....Fingers crossed......????

[JonnyF]

9 minutes ago, transam said:

Well yes, because the opposition have difficulty understanding anything beyond 4 letter words, especially the second in command....????

"Youse are all skum".

 

What's not to like about our dear, snarling Angela? 

 

The deputy leader makes Dianne Abbott's privately educated, nurse attacking son look cultured, intelligent and mild mannered.

 

She embodies the mean, vitriolic nature of the left. Team "be kind" ???? 

 

They are exactly what they accuse you of being.

 

And they wonder why the voters reject them time after time. 

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34 minutes ago, transam said:

Well yes, because the opposition have difficulty understanding anything beyond 4 letter words, especially the second in command....????

Oh, it's clear they understand him well enough. As a failed comedian:

'EU will look at us in horror!' Rees-Mogg outlines his Brexit plan to transform Britain

BREXIT will transform Britain and deliver such dividends that within a decade nobody will want to rejoin the EU, Jacob Rees-Mogg has vowed.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1565155/Jacob-Rees-Mogg-Brexit-plan-EU-latest

[bannork]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

If by oblivion you mean stupor, I agree.

Why Rees-Mogg supported Brexit 

[bannork]

Liz Truss trying to look like Margaret Thatcher in 1979. Hey Liz, the Iron Lady was a big supporter of the Single Market, like you used to be, and will be again.

[Chomper Higgot]

9 hours ago, Loiner said:

Both MSM and lefty posters appear to be inordinately interested in the machinations within the Conservative party.  It’s almost as if they had a finger in creating the current situation. If they put as much effort into their own Labour Party leadership it might have chance of winning an election on day. 

It’s always somebody else’s fault.

[Chomper Higgot]

3 hours ago, transam said:

Sorry, I had to laugh at that lot.....????

200,000 dead and you feel you need to tell us you had to laugh at it.

 

Think about that for a moment.

[Excel]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

200,000 dead and you feel you need to tell us you had to laugh at it.

 

Think about that for a moment.

Perhaps illustrative as to how some Tory supporters are really so superficial. There are also about 4 of them in the last five of the selection process whom I would suspect also fall into that category.

[transam]

18 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

200,000 dead and you feel you need to tell us you had to laugh at it.

 

Think about that for a moment.

There you go again, looking for a twist, the laugh was at the post....????