CharlieH Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 SAS operatives in Afghanistan repeatedly killed detainees and unarmed men in suspicious circumstances, according to a BBC investigation. Newly obtained military reports suggest that one unit may have unlawfully killed 54 people in one six-month tour. The BBC found evidence suggesting the former head of Special Forces failed to pass on evidence to a murder inquiry. BBC News article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post roo860 Posted July 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2022 More nonsense to try and shame our troops! 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted July 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2022 4 hours ago, roo860 said: More nonsense to try and shame our troops! Thanks for your thoughtful analysis of the evidence. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted July 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2022 14 hours ago, roo860 said: More nonsense to try and shame our troops! Sounds like more atrocities committed that shame the SAS and evidence of an attempted cover up. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemmie Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Easier to deal with dead than try to manage prisoners. "Too much work", "couldn't be arsed" and so on. Ask your local resident SAS operative sitting next to you on the bar stool. That's how I found out. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 From the article: "But senior officers became concerned by the frequency with which the squadron's own accounts described detainees being taken back inside buildings and then grabbing for hidden weapons - an enemy tactic not reported by other British military forces operating in Afghanistan." 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post roo860 Posted July 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2022 An ex SAS soldier, he took part in the Iranian Embassy siege. 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 4 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: Sounds like more atrocities committed that shame the SAS and evidence of an attempted cover up. Bang on cue, you have them hanged over a TV program.....Anti-SAS are we...? ???? 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Martin71 Posted July 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2022 Will this turn into another farce like the 'alleged' atrocities said to have been committed by UK troops in Iraq. Thousands of British soldiers had their lives and careers ruined buy false accusations from Iraqi civvies. Of the thousands and thousands investigated at huge expense ( with all the lawyers of the so called victims making millions). I think the figures published somewhere said FIFTEEN THOUSAND allegations and investigations, with only TWO having been found to be credible. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted July 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2022 1 hour ago, roo860 said: An ex SAS soldier, he took part in the Iranian Embassy siege. 25 minutes ago, Martin71 said: Will this turn into another farce like the 'alleged' atrocities said to have been committed by UK troops in Iraq. Thousands of British soldiers had their lives and careers ruined buy false accusations from Iraqi civvies. Of the thousands and thousands investigated at huge expense ( with all the lawyers of the so called victims making millions). I think the figures published somewhere said FIFTEEN THOUSAND allegations and investigations, with only TWO having been found to be credible. As the article pointed out, only these troops reported that prisoners went for weapons when they accompanied soldiers back into the house. No where else in Afghanistan was this reported. Forensic experts also noted the downward trajectory of bullets fired on homes. Not consistent with a firefight. But I'm sure you read the article and noted these peculiarities. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roo860 Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Martin71 said: Will this turn into another farce like the 'alleged' atrocities said to have been committed by UK troops in Iraq. Thousands of British soldiers had their lives and careers ruined buy false accusations from Iraqi civvies. Of the thousands and thousands investigated at huge expense ( with all the lawyers of the so called victims making millions). I think the figures published somewhere said FIFTEEN THOUSAND allegations and investigations, with only TWO having been found to be credible. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/06/24/disgraced-human-rights-lawyer-phil-shiner-faces-fraud-charges/ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 21 hours ago, roo860 said: More nonsense to try and shame our troops! Fake news is it? I guess you don't support war crimes charges against your own under any circumstances? https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-19/afghan-war-crimes-report-released-what-you-need-to-know/12899880 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roo860 Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 53 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Fake news is it? I guess you don't support war crimes charges against your own under any circumstances? https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-19/afghan-war-crimes-report-released-what-you-need-to-know/12899880 My 'own' are not Australians. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ozimoron Posted July 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2022 1 minute ago, roo860 said: My 'own' are not Australians. I included the story as evidence that there are issues out there. Now, do you think allegations against "your own" should be investigated and prosecuted when found credible or not? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post roo860 Posted July 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2022 Just now, ozimoron said: I included the story as evidence that there are issues out there. Now, do you think allegations against "your own" should be investigated and prosecuted when found credible or not? Not credible, so some half ar@ed 'documentary' by an half ar$Ed 'reporter ' isn't going change anything, anytime. Witch hunt, seen it all before. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ozimoron Posted July 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, roo860 said: Not credible, so some half ar@ed 'documentary' by an half ar$Ed 'reporter ' isn't going change anything, anytime. Witch hunt, seen it all before. 54 killed, did they just make stuff up? Nothing to see here? You seem willing to just write this off without wishing the issue to be investigated. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 The (UK) government closed down its investigation into alleged war crimes in Afghanistan, known as Operation Northmoor, before any soldier was prosecuted. But the BBC’s Panorama has unearthed shocking evidence that Britain’s special forces executed detainees and murdered unarmed people in cold blood in Afghanistan. The programme suggests there was a cover-up within the military to protect the SAS. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jul/12/the-guardian-view-on-the-sas-in-afghanistan-investigate-claims-of-war-crimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 1 hour ago, roo860 said: Not credible, so some half ar@ed 'documentary' by an half ar$Ed 'reporter ' isn't going change anything, anytime. Witch hunt, seen it all before. Clearly it is bothering you, which is very odd if you believe ‘it isn’t going to change anything’. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 A post making unsubstantiated claims has been removed. If you are going to make accusations, then supply a link to a credible source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokReady Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 19 hours ago, roo860 said: An ex SAS soldier, he took part in the Iranian Embassy siege. "If a soldier murdered an unarmed enemy captive then charge and punish him severely. Otherwise <deleted>!" What if someone thinks there has been a coverup and wants to blow the whistle by releasing a documentary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Bickering and baiting posts have been removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jul/14/mod-considers-review-into-panoramas-sas-death-squad-claims-afghanistan?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internationalism Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 (edited) since occupation of afghanistan in 2001, this country became again the major producer and exporter of drugs (at cost of golden triangle export, who had this record for decades). Some 80% of world's opium and heroin is from there, making 11% of GDP. Look at the production chart in this article - they were doing up to 9k tons per year. The great majority for export. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-58308494 it's worth reading history through this perspective. Hundreds billions $ were shared between occupiers and occupied in secret deals between occupying armies and tribal leaders. With such big money at stake, war crimes were carried by all sites Edited July 14, 2022 by internationalism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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