Sqoop Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 I wondered whether the expat community could suggest good places to buy a secondhand laptop in pattaya. I just want to have a cheap Linux machine to supplement my existing laptop. I don't want to pay new prices. I just wondered where they stock them ? Any experience out there ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 It's a while that I looked after such products but in the past at Tukcom they had plenty of used laptops. Have you checked already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sqoop Posted July 22, 2022 Author Share Posted July 22, 2022 Not yet, I will go and take a look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bruno123 Posted July 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 22, 2022 You can pick up a second hand Dell Latitude from between 3k and 4k. I doubt Tukcom can match that. Something like i5 3rd or 4th Gen with 4GB RAM and a 500 GB HDD. Takes about a minute to swap to an SSD for when it comes to Latitudes of that ilk. Call BM Computers on 0845 993 530. They are on the Darkside. I picked up a Latitude E6330 for 2.9k 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pdavies99 Posted July 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2022 On 7/22/2022 at 7:32 AM, KhunBENQ said: Most 2nd hand laptops are for sale because: They are outdated Have charging issues Can not handle user requirements Etc Lets face it, why are they for sale? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sqoop Posted July 23, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2022 But selected carefully they can suit my needs 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VBF Posted July 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Pdavies99 said: Most 2nd hand laptops are for sale because: They are outdated Have charging issues Can not handle user requirements Etc Lets face it, why are they for sale? The OP says "....cheap Linux machine to supplement my existing laptop." Linux, generally, needs less resource than Windows so a PC that is no longer much use for Windows might work very well under Linux. I've got an old Netbook with an Atom processor Intel Atom® Processor Family that was sold with Windows XP and struggled even under Windows 7, let alone 10 or 11! It runs reasonably well using Cinnamon Mint Linux Mint 20 "Ulyana" Edited July 23, 2022 by VBF 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 3 hours ago, Pdavies99 said: Lets face it, why are they for sale? Wrong addressee I am not interested in used laptops. But I can comprehend the OPs interest. What a waste these devices are. Four years old? Come on, to the bin. Only 2 GHz? Creeping. I started my professional career with 8085, 8086 Sounds like a tale from History Channel. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Obviously Tuc Com... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tonypattaya Posted July 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2022 Crazy to buy second-hand laptops or computers. Technology has moved on so far. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Fugitive Posted July 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2022 14 minutes ago, tonypattaya said: Crazy to buy second-hand laptops or computers. Technology has moved on so far. Need to tell my Mrs that. She proudly presents me with 'bargain' laptops she's sourced. Now have 3 twin core 2.1 Ghz machines all with 4GB RAM dating from; 2009/2011/2012. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshadow Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 wattana might sell them pattaya klang opposite foodland........ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno123 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 4 hours ago, Sqoop said: But selected carefully they can suit my needs There was really no need to respond to the obvious Trolls. You obtain what suits your needs, rather than their sensibilities. The Latitude described earlier will easily run the latest OS smoothly, especially with an inexpensive SSD within. I bought a laptop that originally cost 47,000 baht; for 3,000. https://notebookspec.com/notebook/5047-dell-latitude-e6330-v7263301th.html It even has a fingerprint reader. The build is solid and it is designed for easy modification. Swapping storage drives takes literally seconds. Consumer designs often have to be taken apart for simple maintenance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extercy Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Get at least an i5 4th Gen as these PCs will have USB3.0. Some laptops and desktop before 4th Gen mostly have USB2.0 and maybe a single USB3.0. 4th Gen, 8GB RAM and 256GB SSD on Linux Mint / Ubuntu should last years until some hardware fails. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Warrior Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 19 hours ago, Pdavies99 said: Most 2nd hand laptops are for sale because: They are outdated Have charging issues Can not handle user requirements Etc Lets face it, why are they for sale? true you get what you pay for !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! buy new Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamfalang Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 Facebook Marketplace. I love used stuff, you can find amazing value; HOWEVER, not when it comes to laptops. If the budget is around 5000, then I guess who cares you can experiment. Over 10,000.....never used. never. Nobody sells a laptop with zero issues. lol. That means more time, and more money, and headaches. cheap Linux.....find one from an ex-hacker, CIA, undercover operative MIA or KIA..... remember, don't buy one from North Korea!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaver Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 I agree with members who advise against buying secondhand electronics, especially when base model devices are so cheap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sqoop Posted July 24, 2022 Author Share Posted July 24, 2022 I have just looked around tucom at the battered second hand laptops on offer. I have to agree, the used machines look pricey and they also look as though they suffered through a tornado. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno123 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 24 minutes ago, Sqoop said: I have just looked around tucom at the battered second hand laptops on offer. I have to agree, the used machines look pricey and they also look as though they suffered through a tornado. ???? I told you to not bother going there Old and overpriced consumer quality devices. Go to pick up a business quality device for 4 to 5k. If you want something new and shiny, buy new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno123 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 38 minutes ago, Leaver said: I agree with members who advise against buying secondhand electronics, especially when base model devices are so cheap. Give an example of an alternative to a 2014 Dell Latitude E6330 for 2900 baht. What base model would you suggest? With SSD if you please. Cheap consumer base model will likely not allow you to fit an SSD without voiding the warranty. So suggest what I should have bought instead of spending 2.9k on a second hand business quality device with a fingerprint reader. 600 baht more for a SSD that was inserted in seconds. So, 3.5k. Look forward to your actual base model suggestions. I note that not even a single one of the naysayers has actually suggested what the OP should buy, other than "new". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoguy21 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 20 hours ago, VBF said: The OP says "....cheap Linux machine to supplement my existing laptop." Linux, generally, needs less resource than Windows so a PC that is no longer much use for Windows might work very well under Linux. I've got an old Netbook with an Atom processor Intel Atom® Processor Family that was sold with Windows XP and struggled even under Windows 7, let alone 10 or 11! It runs reasonably well using Cinnamon Mint Linux Mint 20 "Ulyana" I have a PC and have installed Linux on it. Works fine. If necessary could install a new HDD or SSD better then install Linux 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 On 7/23/2022 at 3:09 PM, Pdavies99 said: Most 2nd hand laptops are for sale because: They are outdated Have charging issues Can not handle user requirements Etc Lets face it, why are they for sale? Because they are knicked, pawned or sold by someone in dire need of money? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStar Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 (edited) 23 hours ago, VBF said: I've got an old Netbook with an Atom processor Intel Atom® Processor Family that was sold with Windows XP and struggled even under Windows 7, let alone 10 or 11! It runs reasonably well using Cinnamon Mint Linux Mint 20 "Ulyana" I have basically an old Chromebook about the same spec, and it runs Fedora XFCE well enough for surfing around, chatting, reading an e-book, and checking email when I'm traveling. Very light, and convenient to leave in the hotel room when I'm out with no cares if it's stolen. Take it! ???? Edited July 24, 2022 by BigStar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStar Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 On 7/22/2022 at 1:19 PM, Sqoop said: I just want to have a cheap Linux machine to supplement my existing laptop. I don't want to pay new prices. I just wondered where they stock them ? Difficult. Best thing to do is get one from a reputable shop from Lazada and rated well. This one would do: https://www.lazada.co.th/totalsolution/?q=All-Products&from=wangpu&langFlag=en&pageTypeId=2 Me, I'd get an old Thinkpad. Great builds, parts widely available, upgradable, still get lots of love on computer forums. Check a few threads here: https://old.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/search?q=best+used+thinkpad&restrict_sr=on&sort=relevance&t=all They typically run Linux well. Any problems have long been sorted out by Linux geeks. For example, this thread: https://old.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/vsiq8c/how_many_of_you_guys_use_linux_or_windows_on/ If it comes w/ a DVD drive, you can lighten things up by just removing it, maybe even replacing it with an adapter for another SSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgw Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 22 hours ago, tonypattaya said: Crazy to buy second-hand laptops or computers. Technology has moved on so far. It really depends what use they will be put to. I bought my current laptop in 2015, it has an i7-4790k and GTX 980M with 8GB Video RAM, and it is still okay for most uses, except newer games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VBF Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 4 hours ago, Photoguy21 said: I have a PC and have installed Linux on it. Works fine. If necessary could install a new HDD or SSD better then install Linux Only up to a point. A very old PC (a Pentium for example) will struggle with any modern Windows, plus may not have the onboard SATA controller for a modern disk drive, or the memory expansion capability. Such a PC might very well run Linux quite well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoguy21 Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 12 hours ago, VBF said: Only up to a point. A very old PC (a Pentium for example) will struggle with any modern Windows, plus may not have the onboard SATA controller for a modern disk drive, or the memory expansion capability. Such a PC might very well run Linux quite well. Agreed the steam driven computers will struggle but I would not assume the buyer would by a computer from the Smithsonian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n8sail Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 Only real down-side to second hand machines these days is the risk of BIOS Virus or Rootkit. So even if you completely wipe the hard disk, write zeros to it and then re-format and install OS of your choice, you will still have the virus. Running Linux reduces that chance as most of the Viruses will only infect Windoze machines, but there is still a risk. These are primarily 'ransomeware' viruses. For a simple web-browsing computer as the OP seems to be looking for, it's okay. Personally I would avoid doing online banking or similar on a 2nd hand machine that who-knows-what cracked illegal software was on beforehand, which is one of the top vectors for Virus infection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStar Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 3 hours ago, n8sail said: Only real down-side to second hand machines these days is the risk of BIOS Virus or Rootkit. So even if you completely wipe the hard disk, write zeros to it and then re-format and install OS of your choice, you will still have the virus. Risk of a hacked BIOS is infinitesimal on an old consumer laptop. As for the drive, if you're that paranoid you'd boot from a separate boot disk/drive with a rootkit scanner and do a scan. Half the members on here have "free" Windows and a software package installed at a Thai shop. Not much of a worry, obviously. Come to think of it, despite all our experts continually sounding their alarms here, I don't recall any member complaining, justifiably, a Thai shop had installed a virus on his machine. It's always PLBKC. Still, a solution best avoided, I completely agree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno123 Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 4 hours ago, n8sail said: Only real down-side to second hand machines these days is the risk of BIOS Virus or Rootkit. So even if you completely wipe the hard disk, write zeros to it and then re-format and install OS of your choice, you will still have the virus. Running Linux reduces that chance as most of the Viruses will only infect Windoze machines, but there is still a risk. These are primarily 'ransomeware' viruses. For a simple web-browsing computer as the OP seems to be looking for, it's okay. Personally I would avoid doing online banking or similar on a 2nd hand machine that who-knows-what cracked illegal software was on beforehand, which is one of the top vectors for Virus infection. I doubt that you have ever encountered a 'BIOS virus' in your whole life, let alone encountered one on a second hand device. Windows 98 anyone? People seem to just take the opportunity to post the most ridiculous things they can think of that they have read and then put them in writing here. Unless you are an activist or some such, forget about any such scenario. If you want to be sure, Kaspersky offers a Firmware Scanner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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