Popular Post ozimoron Posted July 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Untrue, incorrect and also off topic Those who claim it may soon be necessary are overwhelmingly Trump supporters. 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted July 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2022 37 minutes ago, thaibook said: which part do you think is fake? That Democrats are largely socialists or even extreme left wing and anti-capitalist? That there is massi illegal immigration and that the government does not try to check it, actually providing free transport to move these people to states further north such as Pennsylvania? That the government is trying hard to slow down and stop oil and gas exploration and production? America already has socialist programs and you probably benefit from them. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ozimoron Posted July 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: America already has socialist programs and you probably benefit from them. as does every single country in the world. It's not about reality, it's about wanting to coin the term as an epithet against the left. Edited July 26, 2022 by ozimoron 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rudi49jr Posted July 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Eric Loh said: America already has socialist programs and you probably benefit from them. Most Americans have absolutely no clue what ‘socialist’ means, they have been brought up to fear it and see it as something evil. Just like the MAGA crowd calls everyone and everything they disagree with “the radical left”. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 13 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Those who claim it may soon be necessary are overwhelmingly Trump supporters. 65 % of people who said it may soon be necessary to take up arms against the Government were NOT Republicans . Just 35 % of people who agreed were Republicans ' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Berkshire Posted July 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, rudi49jr said: Most Americans have absolutely no clue what ‘socialist’ means, they have been brought up to fear it and see it as something evil. Just like the MAGA crowd calls everyone and everything they disagree with “the radical left”. I don't think these MAGA nutters even understand what "conservative" means. All they know is "us" and "them." And of course, us is good, them is bad....5555 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ozimoron Posted July 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: 65 % of people who said it may soon be necessary to take up arms against the Government were NOT Republicans . Just 35 % of people who agreed were Republicans ' 35% Republican to 20% for Dems. That's overwhelming by my definition. Over a third of all Repub voters think it may be necessary to invoke a civil war. That's an extremist position. Edited July 26, 2022 by ozimoron 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excel Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 1 minute ago, ozimoron said: 35% Republican to 20% for Dems. That's overwhelming by my definition. Apart from that, irrespective of which party they are from, that is a huge number of Americans who appear to be promoting potentially killing fellow Americans that will surely happen in that scenario. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, ozimoron said: 35% Republican to 20% for Dems. That's overwhelming by my definition. Over a third of all Repub voters think it may be necessary to invoke a civil war. That's an extremist position. Don't take it too seriously . There is practically no possibility that there will be civil war in the USA and its just bravado speak from some Americans 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Don't take it too seriously . There is practically no possibility that there will be civil war in the USA and its just bravado speak from some Americans Yes, I did mention that I thought it was politically driven bluster. The problem is that the thousands who actually did riot at the Capitol tends to give credence to the narrative that many are serious as does the proliferation of guns with no other real purpose. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi49jr Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Excel said: Apart from that, irrespective of which party they are from, that is a huge number of Americans who appear to be promoting potentially killing fellow Americans that will surely happen in that scenario. I haven’t looked at the latest figures, but isn’t it true that a (vast) majority of Republicans still believe the election was stolen? That to me indicates a total disregard for facts and reality. No wonder they would want to take up arms to defend their living in La-La Land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVENKEEL Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Unfortunately, fear is a great seller. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Excel Posted July 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2022 Just now, rudi49jr said: I haven’t looked at the latest figures, but isn’t it true that a (vast) majority of Republicans still believe the election was stolen? That to me indicates a total disregard for facts and reality. No wonder they would want to take up arms to defend their living in La-La Land. Not being American I have no idea but given the press reports isn't it just the braindead that follow Trump are of that opinion ? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ozimoron Posted July 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2022 Just now, EVENKEEL said: Unfortunately, fear is a great seller. Fear of democracy. That's the only driver of this sentiment, otherwise they'd be content to vote and let the chips fall where they may. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1FinickyOne Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 15 hours ago, Credo said: .....maybe just best to do it at the ballot box. but the only ones running for office are politicians or would be politicians? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phetphet Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 As a non American, what I find scary is the US National debt. I thought our UK national debt was big, but wow! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Imo most countries should be divided into 2. Socialist US and capitalist US. Solves a lot of issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Berkshire Posted July 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Sparktrader said: Imo most countries should be divided into 2. Socialist US and capitalist US. That only covers the Democrats. If you want to include the Republican party, you'll have to include "fascist." 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Phoenix Rising Posted July 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Untrue, incorrect and also off topic Steve Bannon confirms Trump's 'deconstructing' government plan for 2024 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, Berkshire said: That only covers the Democrats. If you want to include the Republican party, you'll have to include "fascist." Fascism was invented by Mussolini a socialist. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsongthaew Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Wouldn't it be easier to get another 18-ish percent of the vote and elect politicians one third of the country do not want to take up arms against? Or am I really, really naive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 12 minutes ago, Berkshire said: That only covers the Democrats. If you want to include the Republican party, you'll have to include "fascist." You don't think that Republicans are "nazis" ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1FinickyOne Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 A 23 yr old fellow just turned down a $440,000,000 multi year contract to play baseball... I'm going to say something is wrong, sure. But, what I don't get about civil war is who is who? In the past, there were boundaries, physical borders. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 1 hour ago, rudi49jr said: Most Americans have absolutely no clue what ‘socialist’ means, they have been brought up to fear it and see it as something evil. Just like the MAGA crowd calls everyone and everything they disagree with “the radical left”. Most Americans are blissfully unaware of the fact there is one of the most socialist organizations on the planet right in their midst. It's called the American military. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted July 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2022 32 minutes ago, Sparktrader said: Fascism was invented by Mussolini a socialist. Correct when he was a young socialist but he split with the movement and rode a wave of anti-socialist violence to fascist power. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnative Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 28 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: You don't think that Republicans are "nazis" ? Where in earth did that come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: Correct when he was a young socialist but he split with the movement and rode a wave of anti-socialist violence to fascist power. Same thing. State control. Lack of freedom. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted July 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2022 10 minutes ago, Sparktrader said: Same thing. State control. Lack of freedom. Lack of knowledge and understanding of socialism and fascism. A MAGA problem. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Eric Loh said: Lack of knowledge and understanding of socialism and fascism. A MAGA problem. Some tree different branch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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