Truss surges ahead, wins key backers in U.K. leadership race for prime minister

[Loiner]

15 minutes ago, RayC said:

Let's see what the electorate thinks at the next election.

I seem to remember similar statements at the last election, all backed up with links to polls and Garuniad predictions.   

[Bluespunk]

It just keeps on getting funnier and just embarrassing. 
 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/02/truss-suffers-setback-as-criticism-of-civil-service-pay-plan-brings-u-turn?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Sunak’s take on this is just priceless 

 

“His campaign team responded to Truss’s statement with barely disguised glee, with a spokesperson claiming the misstep showed, “a lack of serious judgment” and “a worrying lack of grip on detail in what is already a woolly economic plan”.

 

“If this was in a general election, it would have been a potentially fatal own goal for the Conservatives,” they added, suggesting Truss had supported the policy since 2018 when she was chief secretary to the Treasury.”

 

In effect they are saying truss is clueless

 

#gotruss-the opposition’s choice. 

Edited August 2, 2022 by Bluespunk

[Bluespunk]

Mind you sunak’s policies are faring no better

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/02/former-counter-terrorism-police-chief-attacks-rishi-sunaks-prevent-plans?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

 

”But former counter-terrorism chief Sir Peter Fahy, who was also chief constable of Greater Manchester police, questioned the precise meaning of “vilification”.

 

He said: “The widening of Prevent could damage its credibility and reputation. It makes it more about people’s thoughts and opinions.

 

“It is straying into thought crimes and political opinions.”

 

#gotruss-if you ever get your ballot papers that is. 
 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/02/ballot-papers-for-tory-leadership-vote-delayed-after-security-concerns?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

[transam]

15 hours ago, baboon said:

'Darling of the Left' would be a more accurate label.

Well yes, what else do they have.............????

[placeholder]

5 hours ago, Loiner said:

I seem to remember similar statements at the last election, all backed up with links to polls and Garuniad predictions.   

No, you don't seem to remember. You actually misremember and there's no seeming about it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2019_United_Kingdom_general_election

[JonnyF]

5 hours ago, Loiner said:

I seem to remember similar statements at the last election, all backed up with links to polls and Garuniad predictions.   

And Brexit, wasn't that going to be a landslide for Remain? That's the trouble with left wing echo chambers. The majority of the voters don't pay any attention to them and simply place their vote.

 

Then when the blinkered inhabitants of these echo chambers lose - it's a shocked chorus of "I can't believe it, I don't know anyone that voted Leave/Conservative, let's re-run the vote". ????

 

Gotta love the clueless lefties.

[metisdead]

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Truss surges ahead, wins key backers in U.K. leadership race for prime minister

 

 

[placeholder]

50 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

And Brexit, wasn't that going to be a landslide for Remain? That's the trouble with left wing echo chambers. The majority of the voters don't pay any attention to them and simply place their vote.

 

Then when the blinkered inhabitants of these echo chambers lose - it's a shocked chorus of "I can't believe it, I don't know anyone that voted Leave/Conservative, let's re-run the vote". ????

 

Gotta love the clueless lefties.

If anyone is clueless, it's someone who remembers that the Brexit vote was supposed to be a landslide for remainers. The polls showed the race to be very close.

Online surveys, on average, predicted a "leave" win with a 1.2% margin, whereas those with a phone methodology had "remain" win with a 2.6% margin.^[12] All in all, 63% of online polls predicted a Leave victory, while 78% of phone polls predicted that Remain would win.^[13] Kantar TNS and Opinium, both pollsters with online methodologies, were the two groups that forecast a Leave victory just ahead of the vote.^[13]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_United_Kingdom_European_Union_membership_referendum#:~:text=Online surveys%2C on average%2C predicted,predicted that Remain would win.

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/the-closer-uk-gets-to-brexit-the-more-the-country-regrets-it-polls-show-2019-1

 

[transam]

2 hours ago, placeholder said:

If anyone is clueless, it's someone who remembers that the Brexit vote was supposed to be a landslide for remainers. The polls showed the race to be very close.

Online surveys, on average, predicted a "leave" win with a 1.2% margin, whereas those with a phone methodology had "remain" win with a 2.6% margin.^[12] All in all, 63% of online polls predicted a Leave victory, while 78% of phone polls predicted that Remain would win.^[13] Kantar TNS and Opinium, both pollsters with online methodologies, were the two groups that forecast a Leave victory just ahead of the vote.^[13]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_United_Kingdom_European_Union_membership_referendum#:~:text=Online surveys%2C on average%2C predicted,predicted that Remain would win.

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/the-closer-uk-gets-to-brexit-the-more-the-country-regrets-it-polls-show-2019-1

 

But, is Liz still steaming ahead in the race for the top job.....?  ????

[Chomper Higgot]

33 minutes ago, transam said:

But, is Liz still steaming ahead in the race for the top job.....?  ????

I rather hope so, she’s the opposition’s preferred candidate.

[RayC]

4 hours ago, JonnyF said:

And Brexit, wasn't that going to be a landslide for Remain? That's the trouble with left wing echo chambers. The majority of the voters don't pay any attention to them and simply place their vote.

 

Then when the blinkered inhabitants of these echo chambers lose - it's a shocked chorus of "I can't believe it, I don't know anyone that voted Leave/Conservative, let's re-run the vote". ????

 

Gotta love the clueless lefties.

Gotta feel for the the Brexiters. How gullible can you be?

 

Sold a pup - well, more of a litter of pups - but still believe that the Brexit benefits are just around the corner despite there being no sign of either benefits or the corner.

Edited August 3, 2022 by RayC
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[transam]

6 minutes ago, RayC said:

Gotta feel for the the Brexiters. How gullible can you be?

 

Sold a pup - well, more of a litter of pups - but still believe that the Brexit benefits are just around the corner despite there being no sign of either benefits or the corner.

Gotta feel for those who continually bring up Brexit on any thread.......????...........Must be Brexit Syndrome........????..............????

[placeholder]

15 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I rather hope so, she’s the opposition’s preferred candidate.

In her own way, she's unifying the nation.

[transam]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

In her own way, she's unifying the nation.

Absolutely, whilst the opposition is destroying itself.......????

[Mac Mickmanus]

2 minutes ago, transam said:

Gotta feel for those who continually bring up Brexit on any thread.......????...........Must be Brexit Syndrome........????..............????

They seem to bring it up on a Thai forum, because everyone in the U.K has moved on and getting on with it and its now a historical event that happened years ago 

[placeholder]

3 minutes ago, transam said:

Absolutely, whilst the opposition is destroying itself.......????

Really?

https://www.politico.eu/europe-poll-of-polls/united-kingdom/

[transam]

1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

They seem to bring it up on a Thai forum, because everyone in the U.K has moved on and getting on with it and its now a historical event that happened years ago 

Well, yes, but it is only a few names here, hence my Brexit Syndrome theory..........................????

[JonnyF]

4 hours ago, placeholder said:

If anyone is clueless, it's someone who remembers that the Brexit vote was supposed to be a landslide for remainers. The polls showed the race to be very close.

Online surveys, on average, predicted a "leave" win with a 1.2% margin, whereas those with a phone methodology had "remain" win with a 2.6% margin.^[12] All in all, 63% of online polls predicted a Leave victory, while 78% of phone polls predicted that Remain would win.^[13] Kantar TNS and Opinium, both pollsters with online methodologies, were the two groups that forecast a Leave victory just ahead of the vote.^[13]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_United_Kingdom_European_Union_membership_referendum#:~:text=Online surveys%2C on average%2C predicted,predicted that Remain would win.

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/the-closer-uk-gets-to-brexit-the-more-the-country-regrets-it-polls-show-2019-1

 

I'm talking about left wing echo chambers, not independent polls.

 

Nice deflection though.

[transam]

4 minutes ago, placeholder said:

So now we know why you won't vote for Labour. Doesn't seem to matter much to the plurality though.

I would not vote socialist, or for any Party that makes excuses for terrorism or cavorts with terrorism folk....there is a difference.....????

[Slip]

19 minutes ago, transam said:

Gotta feel for those who continually bring up Brexit on any thread.......????...........Must be Brexit Syndrome........????..............????

Indeed- and here is what RayC was replying to when he mentioned Brexit in response:  

 

Perhaps you should have a word with your fellow Gammonati.

 

[transam]

1 minute ago, Slip said:

Indeed- and here is what RayC was replying to when he mentioned Brexit in response:  

 

Perhaps you should have a word with your fellow Gammonati.

 

Is that a type of bacon.......?....????

[RayC]

34 minutes ago, transam said:

Gotta feel for those who continually bring up Brexit on any thread.......????...........Must be Brexit Syndrome........????..............????

 

2 minutes ago, Slip said:

Indeed- and here is what RayC was replying to when he mentioned Brexit in response:  

 

Perhaps you should have a word with your fellow Gammonati.

 

Thanks, Slip. However, unfortunately, facts don't matter to some posters. 

[transam]

Just now, RayC said:

 

Thanks, Slip. However, unfortunately, facts don't matter to some posters. 

Weeeeeell, going by stuff that keeps being written here, the fact is, we have Brexit, fact, Liz Truss could well become the next UK PM, fact, the Labour Party is having Union problems, fact...????

 

 

[RayC]

1 hour ago, transam said:

Weeeeeell, going by stuff that keeps being written here, the fact is, we have Brexit, fact,

Depends how you define Brexit. If you simply mean that we have left the EU, then agreed. However, if you extend the definition to include the effects of leaving then we don't have it eg. the UK government's desire to renegotiate the Withdrawal Agreement. Fact!

 

1 hour ago, transam said:

Liz Truss could well become the next UK PM, fact,

Agreed, Liz Truss could become the next UK PM and the reason for that? The last incumbent was considered unsuitable by his fellow MPs. Fact!

 

1 hour ago, transam said:

the Labour Party is having Union problems, fact...????

 

 

Untrue. The relationship between the Labour Party and the Unions remains unchanged. Fact!

 

[transam]

10 minutes ago, RayC said:

Depends how you define Brexit. If you simply mean that we have left the EU, then agreed. However, if you extend the definition to include the effects of leaving then we don't have it eg. the UK government's desire to renegotiate the Withdrawal Agreement. Fact!

 

Agreed, Liz Truss could become the next UK PM and the reason for that? The last incumbent was considered unsuitable by his fellow MPs. Fact!

 

Untrue. The relationship between the Labour Party and the Unions remains unchanged. Fact!

 

If you say so............????

[placeholder]

2 hours ago, JonnyF said:

I'm talking about left wing echo chambers, not independent polls.

 

Nice deflection though.

B.S. It's right wingers who typically deny the polls. The left-wing pundits were saying mostly that they thought Brexit would lose but none, not one that I read, were so foolish as ignore the polling.

Edited August 3, 2022 by placeholder

[Bluespunk]

Come on truss, enough with the policy debacles and humiliating u-turns. Sunak is catching up according to some polls. 
 

Thankfully for the opposition others say otherwise. 
 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/02/sunak-closing-gap-truss-tory-leadership-contest-poll-shows?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

 

#gotruss- the candidate the opposition would choose. 

[metisdead]

A troll post misusing a member's name has been reported and removed, again. 

 

A post using a trolling representation of another politicians name has been reported and removed. 

Edited August 4, 2022 by metisdead

[transam]

16 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

Come on truss, enough with the policy debacles and humiliating u-turns. Sunak is catching up according to some polls. 
 

Thankfully for the opposition others say otherwise. 
 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/02/sunak-closing-gap-truss-tory-leadership-contest-poll-shows?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

 

#gotruss- the candidate the opposition would choose. 

I am happy to read that, everyone's happy........????

 

But I think the main point at this time is, whom ever wins, we still have a Government that is streets ahead of the socialist opposition, they are a disaster waiting to happen, just look and listen to their front bench, they cannot even control Cabinet members.... ????

 

 

 

[Bluespunk]

1 hour ago, transam said:

I am happy to read that, everyone's happy........????

 

But I think the main point at this time is, whom ever wins, we still have a Government that is streets ahead of the socialist opposition, they are a disaster waiting to happen, just look and listen to their front bench, they cannot even control Cabinet members.... ????

 

 

 

Keep telling yourself that and please encourage any party members who you may happen to know to vote truss. . 
 

She is a gift to the opposition and if I were them I’d be praying she wins. 
 

#gotruss-the opposition’s choice.