POLITICS Trump says FBI raiding his Mar-a-Lago home

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, candide said:

Trump's Save America PAC sent out a fundraising email Tuesday morning in which Trump urged supporters to "rush in a donation IMMEDIATELY to publicly stand with me against this NEVERENDING WITCH HUNT." ????

https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-allies-raising-funds-off-fbis-raid-mar/story?id=88209632

 

When Trump says save America, he really means save me. He can hear those prison doors starting to clang shut.

[LaosLover]

4 minutes ago, nauseus said:

You are not answering seriously but rather speculating again.

This internet thing -what's up with people answering how they feel like?

 

I thought it was more like a puppet show.

[Bkk Brian]

5 minutes ago, Paul Catton said:

As an aside, we had @Jingthing denouncing Trump with FBI Director Comey taking Donald out, When this didn't happen came, a "Mueller time" avatar. with a sycophantic glee that D T Trump would be nailed .

<deleted>, DJT  has been out of "Office" with the "Dems" in power, Donald may have been a pussy grabber and not an angelic icon, however he did walk in the DMZ to shake hands with "Rocket Man" easing tensions. Gave similar strong arm rhetoric toward both China and Russiia, Actually met the leaders, and being a maverick diplomat, didn't talk sugar.

I cannot claim to have any skin in America v America breakdown, except from the  daily in my reports from my own choice of news provider.

Please, Trumps buddy Kim Rocket Man Un...???? 

 

"Former United States President Donald Trump has told associates since leaving the White House he has remained in contact with North Korea’s reclusive leader Kim Jong Un amid raised tensions over recent his country’s missile tests, according to a report on Thursday. Trump famously declared in 2018 that he and Kim “fell in love” after exchanging letters, but three meetings with the North Korean leader failed to persuade him to give up his nuclear bombs and missiles."

 

So what was it they talked about that was nothing to do with sugar?

[Walker88]

22 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

IF IF IF....BS More like

One of us will eat his words.

 

Of course if I am correct, I expect only excuses, not crow eating.

 

More will be known after 2am Thai time.

[xylophone]

6 minutes ago, Paul Catton said:

As an aside, we had @Jingthing denouncing Trump with FBI Director Comey taking Donald out, When this didn't happen came, a "Mueller time" avatar. with a sycophantic glee that D T Trump would be nailed .

<deleted>, DJT  has been out of "Office" with the "Dems" in power, Donald may have been a pussy grabber and not an angelic icon, however he did walk in the DMZ to shake hands with "Rocket Man" easing tensions. Gave similar strong arm rhetoric toward both China and Russiia, Actually met the leaders, and being a maverick diplomat, didn't talk sugar.

I cannot claim to have any skin in America v America breakdown, except from the  daily in my reports from my own choice of news provider.

Well we have different perspectives on things to do with trump....... 

 

The fact that he shook hands with "Rocket Man" got him absolutely nowhere other than to bolster the North Korean leader's ego (look how powerful I am, because I've got the president of the USA visiting me) and as for your comment about "not talking sugar", well I would put good money on the fact that being that trump is a coward and a bully, that the rhetoric was anything but severe, more "cosying up" – – until of course he got back home and had to satisfy his cult followers with his version.

 

The man is unfit to be in a position of power in any organisation, let alone being president of the US, so I can only hope that this latest raid turns up something which can nail him, and some.

[Bkk Brian]

35 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

And if all this is so serious and true, then why have they taken 18 months to take action?

Jan 2022: DOJ removes from MAL highly classified Top Secret docs But Trump keeps more.

June 2022: DOJ returns and finds more highly classified Top Secret docs But Trump keeps more.

Aug 2022: DOJ under court order removes more Top Secret docs

[nauseus]

23 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

To what do I need to read back to exactly, here is what you said:

 

"I believe that this "serial liar", as you brand him, was at least as fit to serve as any of his recent predecessors, who lied just as regularly, as does this latest one in the line right now."

 

Here is what I provided to refute your nonsensical claim:

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/16/politics/fact-check-dale-top-15-donald-trump-lies/index.html

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/24/trumps-false-or-misleading-claims-total-30573-over-four-years/

 

Final tally of lies: Analysts say Trump told 30,000 mistruths – that’s 21 a day – during presidency

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/trump-lies-false-presidency-b1790285.html

I reject your links just as you rejected mine.  

[billd766]

3 hours ago, nauseus said:

I believe that this "serial liar", as you brand him, was at least as fit to serve as any of his recent predecessors, who lied just as regularly, as does this latest one in the line right now.

I only read reports that say he is, such as these

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/16/politics/fact-check-dale-top-15-donald-trump-lies/index.html

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx1lupSLnGk

 

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2020-08-05/donald-trump-lies-character-psychology

 

3 hours ago, nauseus said:

I believe that this "serial liar", as you brand him, was at least as fit to serve as any of his recent predecessors, who lied just as regularly, as does this latest one in the line right now.

Well it simply isn't just me. 

 

You could ask yourself if so many different entities are publishing stories about Trumps lies, why hasn't he sued them for saying so?

 

I doubt that any of this will change your mind as you STILL believe he was at least as fit to serve as any of his recent predecessors, who lied just as regularly, as does this latest one in the line right now.

 

Do you also believe in the "big lie" that the election was stolen from Trump? 

 

Even though his lawyer challenged in court that this was so, and lost over 60 cases?

 

Do you believe that Joe Biden, who is the legal POTUS, has lied as much as Donald Trump at this stage of the presidency?

 

Here is a random selection of searches from Google.  About 1.610.000 results (0,42 seconds). Just a few to keep you going from the many articles published

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/16/politics/fact-check-dale-top-15-donald-trump-lies/index.html

 

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2020-08-05/donald-trump-lies-character-psychology

 

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2020-08-05/donald-trump-lies-character-psychology

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veracity_of_statements_by_Donald_Trump

 

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/opinion/readers/2019/12/17/trump-serial-liar-and-grifter-reader-views/2662795001/

 

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-lies-media-828495/

 

https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

[nauseus]

3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Jan 2022: DOJ removes from MAL highly classified Top Secret docs But Trump keeps more.

June 2022: DOJ returns and finds more highly classified Top Secret docs But Trump keeps more.

Aug 2022: DOJ under court order removes more Top Secret docs

Not very efficient are they?

[Walker88]

11 minutes ago, nauseus said:

The requests were supposed to be from NARA. I said serious. You are not answering seriously but rather speculating again.

No, NARA was initial speculation by the media. DoJ and FBI have been closed mouthed for the most part.

 

WaPo story re nukes brings in an entirely new issue.

 

We should know more at 2am local time.

 

Never understood 45's appeal. His schtick is so transparent. The Nigerian 419 scammers are more sophisticated in their grifting. I bet those guys would love to get 45's subscriber list, as there are so many marks waiting to be fleeced.

[The Hammer2021]

30 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

They have asked repeatedly. 45 said 'we returned everything'. 12 boxes on Monday says he lied....again. Owing to the extreme sensitivity and unprecedented nature, going through the process was difficult. Make too much stink, and adversaries would know what's at MaL and they would be joining the club in droves. Sometimes in matters so sensitive, discretion is needed, lest it alert the bad guys. Apparently it finally became too much of a threat to wait any longer.

 

As a former case officer, if I was instead, say, FSB/SVR and had assessed the moral weakness of 45 and his known penchant for pure self-interest, I would have joined MaL and assessed it for weaknesses, tried to find access agents to help me exploit it....whatever it took to get close to what I suspected was there. 45 and his family are at best witting fools, and at worst, totally for sale. As a spook those are the kind of hooks one seeks and the personal weaknesses one tries to exploit.

 

 

"As a former case officer" LOL 555

Reams of meaningless  speculation based on fantasy and wish fulfilment.

And what is this  nonesense  with '45'?

Edited August 12, 2022 by The Hammer2021

[LosLobo]

11 minutes ago, Paul Catton said:

As an aside, we had @Jingthing denouncing Trump with FBI Director Comey taking Donald out, When this didn't happen came, a "Mueller time" avatar. with a sycophantic glee that D T Trump would be nailed .

<deleted>, DJT  has been out of "Office" with the "Dems" in power, Donald may have been a pussy grabber and not an angelic icon, however he did walk in the DMZ to shake hands with "Rocket Man" easing tensions. Gave similar strong arm rhetoric toward both China and Russiia, Actually met the leaders, and being a maverick diplomat, didn't talk sugar.

I cannot claim to have any skin in America v America breakdown, except from the  daily in my reports from my own choice of news provider.

Strong arm rhetoric toward Russia like :

" I don't see any reason why Russia would interfere in 2016 election",

"I doubt Russia was behind the Skripal poisoning",
 

"I was not briefed on Russian bounties because Intelligence not credible" ?

[riclag]

4 minutes ago, Paul Catton said:

As an aside, we had @Jingthing denouncing Trump with FBI Director Comey taking Donald out, When this didn't happen came, a "Mueller time" avatar. with a sycophantic glee that D T Trump would be nailed .

<deleted>, DJT  has been out of "Office" with the "Dems" in power, Donald may have been a pussy grabber and not an angelic icon, however he did walk in the DMZ to shake hands with "Rocket Man" easing tensions. Gave similar strong arm rhetoric toward both China and Russiia, Actually met the leaders, and being a maverick diplomat, didn't talk sugar.

I cannot claim to have any skin in America v America breakdown, except from the  daily in my reports from my own choice of news provider.

Nice neutral comment! I think its safe to say  Since the credibility of the doj and fbi about Mr. Trump weighs heavy in this thread, comey left out the integrity part  of the moto Finality and Bravery when he took advantage of 

the new WH administration early on.

 

[xylophone]

2 minutes ago, billd766 said:

I only read reports that say he is, such as these

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/16/politics/fact-check-dale-top-15-donald-trump-lies/index.html

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx1lupSLnGk

 

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2020-08-05/donald-trump-lies-character-psychology

 

Well it simply isn't just me. 

 

You could ask yourself if so many different entities are publishing stories about Trumps lies, why hasn't he sued them for saying so?

 

I doubt that any of this will change your mind as you STILL believe he was at least as fit to serve as any of his recent predecessors, who lied just as regularly, as does this latest one in the line right now.

 

Do you also believe in the "big lie" that the election was stolen from Trump? 

 

Even though his lawyer challenged in court that this was so, and lost over 60 cases?

 

Do you believe that Joe Biden, who is the legal POTUS, has lied as much as Donald Trump at this stage of the presidency?

 

Here is a random selection of searches from Google.  About 1.610.000 results (0,42 seconds). Just a few to keep you going from the many articles published

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/16/politics/fact-check-dale-top-15-donald-trump-lies/index.html

 

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2020-08-05/donald-trump-lies-character-psychology

 

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2020-08-05/donald-trump-lies-character-psychology

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veracity_of_statements_by_Donald_Trump

 

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/opinion/readers/2019/12/17/trump-serial-liar-and-grifter-reader-views/2662795001/

 

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-lies-media-828495/

 

https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

Nice try bill766, but the truth is an anethema to the trump cultists. 

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, nauseus said:

I reject your links just as you rejected mine.  

Did I reject your link about a claimed 6 lies from Biden? Or did I just provide with a list of links and lies which disproves your unsubstantiated claim that was:

 

"I believe that this "serial liar", as you brand him, was at least as fit to serve as any of his recent predecessors, who lied just as regularly, as does this latest one in the line right now."

[Paul Catton]

4 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

That is regarded as befriending an evil dictator and legitimising a fascist regime .

You never responded back to me whether you are in reality the Spoonerism tag team member with "Iron man - Steve Logan". PM if you wish. Prayut Chan-o-Cha, another beacon for democratic rule.

[nauseus]

2 minutes ago, billd766 said:

at Joe Biden, who is the legal POTUS, has lied as mu

 

3 minutes ago, billd766 said:

I only read reports that say he is, such as these

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/16/politics/fact-check-dale-top-15-donald-trump-lies/index.html

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx1lupSLnGk

 

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2020-08-05/donald-trump-lies-character-psychology

 

Well it simply isn't just me. 

 

You could ask yourself if so many different entities are publishing stories about Trumps lies, why hasn't he sued them for saying so?

 

I doubt that any of this will change your mind as you STILL believe he was at least as fit to serve as any of his recent predecessors, who lied just as regularly, as does this latest one in the line right now.

 

Do you also believe in the "big lie" that the election was stolen from Trump? 

 

Even though his lawyer challenged in court that this was so, and lost over 60 cases?

 

Do you believe that Joe Biden, who is the legal POTUS, has lied as much as Donald Trump at this stage of the presidency?

 

Here is a random selection of searches from Google.  About 1.610.000 results (0,42 seconds). Just a few to keep you going from the many articles published

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/16/politics/fact-check-dale-top-15-donald-trump-lies/index.html

 

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2020-08-05/donald-trump-lies-character-psychology

 

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2020-08-05/donald-trump-lies-character-psychology

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veracity_of_statements_by_Donald_Trump

 

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/opinion/readers/2019/12/17/trump-serial-liar-and-grifter-reader-views/2662795001/

 

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-lies-media-828495/

 

https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

Bill I think you said you given up the juice. If so, well done. But TGIF and the sun is well down now.

[The Hammer2021]

2 minutes ago, xylophone said:

Nice try bill766, but the truth is an anethema to the trump cultists. 

But they have no monopoly  on denial!

[Bkk Brian]

5 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Not very efficient are they?

Perhaps they believed Trump had handed them all over so no, they've learnt their lesson now, hence the court order and where we are today. Pity Trump did not give everything back when asked and ordered to don't you think?

[Mac Mickmanus]

1 minute ago, Paul Catton said:

You never responded back to me whether you are in reality the Spoonerism tag team member with "Iron man - Steve Logan". PM if you wish. Prayut Chan-o-Cha, another beacon for democratic rule.

I sort of bailed out of the discussion as its descended into yet another thread of people calling each of "liars"  and posters trying to prove who tells the most lies and who doesn't . 

  "Oh yes he is"

"Oh no he isnt "

Kind of thing 

  Gets repetitive and BTW, I have no idea who Steve Logan is 

[ballpoint]

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Perhaps they believed Trump had handed them all over so no, they've learnt their lesson now, hence the court order and where we are today. Pity Trump did not give everything back when asked and ordered to don't you think?

Pity he stole them in the first place. 

[nauseus]

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

Perhaps they believed Trump had handed them all over so no, they've learnt their lesson now, hence the court order and where we are today. Pity Trump did not give everything back when asked and ordered to don't you think?

I think you don't really know the truth of what's happening tight now......probably the one and only thing we have in common

[Lacessit]

9 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Not very efficient are they?

Federal prosecutors claim a conviction rate of 95%. They may be slow, but I'd call that quite efficient.

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, nauseus said:

I think you don't really know the truth of what's happening tight now......probably the one and only thing we have in common

But you just said they were pretty inefficient, what makes you say that if you don't know?

[LaosLover]

I'm sure Garland has watched The Wire:

 

"If you come for the king,  best not miss".

 

[billd766]

3 hours ago, nauseus said:

I did  - that what the link was for. A shame that someone having had such high clearance can create such nonsense. 

What was your highest ever security clearance, assuming you were in a position to obtain a government security clearance?

[The Hammer2021]

18 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Please, Trumps buddy Kim Rocket Man Un...???? 

 

"Former United States President Donald Trump has told associates since leaving the White House he has remained in contact with North Korea’s reclusive leader Kim Jong Un amid raised tensions over recent his country’s missile tests, according to a report on Thursday. Trump famously declared in 2018 that he and Kim “fell in love” after exchanging letters, but three meetings with the North Korean leader failed to persuade him to give up his nuclear bombs and missiles."

 

So what was it they talked about that was nothing to do with sugar?

The weird obsessive hatred of trump evervsince he announced that he was  running for president is bizarre. Its not a political  position its a form of  neurosis. He turned out to  be a pretty  good president but the so called progressives denounced him because they were convinced they were ENTITLED to run  the country. They weren't.  They aren't. The febrile hatred of the woke,  left liberal progressives for President  Trump is only matched by their hatred of the white working  classes and their  loathing of free thinking POC who reject identitarian idiocy and woke  bullying.

[Slip]

1 minute ago, The Hammer2021 said:

The weird obsessive hatred of trump evervsince he announced that he was  running for president is bizarre. Its not a political  position its a form of  neurosis. He turned out to  be a pretty  good president but the so called progressives denounced him because they were convinced they were ENTITLED to run  the country. They weren't.  They aren't. The febrile hatred of the woke,  left liberal progressives for President  Trump is only matched by their hatred of the white working  classes and their  loathing of free thinking POC who reject identitarian idiocy and woke  bullying.

Codswallop.

[Bkk Brian]

8 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

The weird obsessive hatred of trump evervsince he announced that he was  running for president is bizarre. Its not a political  position its a form of  neurosis. He turned out to  be a pretty  good president but the so called progressives denounced him because they were convinced they were ENTITLED to run  the country. They weren't.  They aren't. The febrile hatred of the woke,  left liberal progressives for President  Trump is only matched by their hatred of the white working  classes and their  loathing of free thinking POC who reject identitarian idiocy and woke  bullying.

I thought my post was about Trump & Rocket Man but carry on with your hyperbole.

Edited August 12, 2022 by Bkk Brian

[LaosLover]

4 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

The febrile hatred of the woke,  left liberal progressives 

I keep mixing it up: Is Biden sleepy or woke? How does that work at the same time?