Enoch Powell, he wasnt wrong in his forecast !

[Chomper Higgot]

4 minutes ago, transam said:

No attack, just pointing out the subject of this thread was a chap talking, nothing else, just talking.

You are having a pop at a chap talking, yet your "country" did way worse than talking.

Just pointing the fact out....????

Words have consequences.

 

The words of Racist Powell had consequences.

 

He was and remains defended and admired by racist.

 

Perhaps you’d like to forget the race attacks that were a part of British crime throughout the 60s and 70s.

 

 

[ozimoron]

6 minutes ago, wombat said:

and look where we all are now

The white resentment card. Evening up the playing field is called affirmative action, not discrimination against white people.

[transam]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Present a post where I have stated I want all taken in?

 

Or admit you are making stuff up.

 

I suggest you direct your ire at those that made false promises and raised false expectations and leave those of us who told you at the time you were being lied to alone.

Making stuff up, you side with the rubber dinghy folk, you side with the foreigner on any subject, and you know it...????

 

[transam]

3 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Just in case there's any doubt, they never abolished slavery in the UK until 1833. Modern racism is an artifact of the past. All countries are afflicted by it. None are inherently worse than another and the problem is way more prevalent than most people believe.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/12/british-history-slavery-buried-scale-revealed

Segregation............Gawd.......????

Look up USA segregation 20th century....

[ozimoron]

Just now, transam said:

Segregation............Gawd.......????

Look up USA segregation 20th century....

There's no (legal) segregation right now and hasn't been for some time. Modern racism is rife in the UK just as it is in the US. It's in plain view on this board for all to see.

[transam]

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Words have consequences.

 

The words of Racist Powell had consequences.

 

He was and remains defended and admired by racist.

 

Perhaps you’d like to forget the race attacks that were a part of British crime throughout the 60s and 70s.

 

 

Was there UK coloured Segregation, cafes, transport toilets.............?

Crime is never ending, has every nationality, any country...

[transam]

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

There's no (legal) segregation right now and hasn't been for some time. Modern racism is rife in the UK just as it is in the US. It's in plain view on this board for all to see.

Segregation......????

[ozimoron]

12 minutes ago, transam said:

Segregation......????

What relevance does historical segregation have to racism now?

[transam]

6 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

What relevance does historical segregation have to racism now?

The thread is about a Brigadier Enoch Powell MBE, his chat from over half a century back, and what was going on then, did you forget......?

Edited September 2, 2022 by transam

[Chomper Higgot]

18 minutes ago, transam said:

Was there UK coloured Segregation, cafes, transport toilets.............?

Crime is never ending, has every nationality, any country...

Racist attacks by are a fact of British history.

 

The absence of US styled race segregation does not change that historical fact.

 

You are simply engaging in strawman whataboutary.

[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, transam said:

The thread is about a Brigadier Enoch Powell, his chat from over half a century back, and what was going on then, did you forget......?

No, the thread is about how Enoch Powell is still revered now.

[Chomper Higgot]

The Venn diagram of those defending/admiring Powell and those ranting against immigrants in threads through this forum is a perfect circle.

 

Who’d have guessed it?!

[transam]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Racist attacks by are a fact of British history.

 

The absence of US styled race segregation does not change that historical fact.

 

You are simply engaging in strawman whataboutary.

Yes, foreign folk have attacked Brits, there are quite a few in prison to this day, happy to see you recognised that fact....????

 

Rapists, murderers, terrorists, smugglers, the UK has the lot, sadly.....

[transam]

3 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

No, the thread is about how Enoch Powell is still revered now.

I wouldn't know, but perhaps you could tell me what laws regarding Enoch and immigration were implemented....?

[transam]

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The Venn diagram of those defending/admiring Powell and those ranting against immigrants in threads through this forum is a perfect circle.

 

Who’d have guessed it?!

Yes but, you are someone who wants all let into the UK, so you will make a comment like that....????

[GarryP]

15 hours ago, proton said:

It's a good start to be intellectually brilliant, which he was and nobody can deny his predictions came true. Many cities in the UK  became over run with immigrants and changed the nature of them without the host population ever being asked. The present state of lawlessness is unprecedented and it's almost always foreign names as the guilty. Added to that the burden of immigration on housing, schools, NHS and social care is unsustainable, blaming the government for not building enough houses etc is to ignore the obvious. Yet still they come, even on boats escorted by the RNLI, people paying 4-10k are not poor or asylum seekers but the betrayed UK taxpayer has to fork out for these illegals to be put up in 3 star accommodation and looked after forever, just because they are better off leeching off Brits than they would have been back home. Powell was right when he said we must be mad, literally mad.

I think you'll find that immigration back in the 50's and 60's in Yorkshire and Lancashire was supported/promoted by the government to provide workers for the mills and factories. It was not about immigrants trying to sneak in illegally. Bradford and Saltaire among a number of cities in the north are what they are now due to government policy and not because of "leeching". Now whether that policy was right or wrong, I have no idea, but you should not blame the people. 

Edited September 2, 2022 by GarryP

[Walker88]

Kind of funny to read expats in Thailand complaining about migrants to the UK.

[proton]

1 minute ago, GarryP said:

I think you'll find that immigration back in the 50's and 60's in Yorkshire and Lancashire was supported/promoted by the government to provide workers for the mills and factories. It was not about immigrants trying to sneak in illegally. Bradford and Saltaire among a number of cities in the north are what they are now due to government policy and not because of "leeching". Now whethere that policy was right or wrong, I have no idea, but you should not blame the people. 

That is a myth, they were never supported or invited, including the windrush boat. It was some Caribbean islands, especially Barbados who asked if people could be trained in UK as nurses etc. I would be interested to see any information that mass immigration was ever invited from places like Pakistan to work in mills and corner shops.

[Chomper Higgot]

6 minutes ago, transam said:

Yes but, you are someone who wants all let into the UK, so you will make a comment like that....????

Once again, produce a post where I have stated I want to let all into the UK?

Or don’t you even care what you make up and post about others?

[proton]

1 minute ago, Walker88 said:

Kind of funny to read expats in Thailand complaining about migrants to the UK.

why? we are not leeching off Thai taxpayers, building Churches all over the place, demanding special food in schools etc or getting government housing and free healthcare or staging demos over films, books or tv programmes. We have not bombed anyone here, thrown acid over women or demanded our own legal system.

[PremiumLane]

On 9/1/2022 at 10:36 AM, Kwasaki said:

Remember parts of Wembley and Willesden were no go areas 60 years ago. 

hahaha where did you pull that 'fact' from?

[PremiumLane]

4 minutes ago, proton said:

why? we are not leeching off Thai taxpayers, building Churches all over the place, demanding special food in schools etc or getting government housing and free healthcare or staging demos over films, books or tv programmes. We have not bombed anyone here, thrown acid over women or demanded our own legal system.

How are they leeching when all data shows that immigrants provide a net benefit to the economy?

If you are a citizen of the country or resident there and working then you get healthcare, what is wrong with that?

 

Do all Muslims stage demos? Do they all throw acid? 

 

And how is the UK doing at the moment without immigrant workers? 

[transam]

13 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

Kind of funny to read expats in Thailand complaining about migrants to the UK.

It's a thread for a chat, that you probably would not find on a bar stool here.....????

[transam]

4 minutes ago, PremiumLane said:

How are they leeching when all data shows that immigrants provide a net benefit to the economy?

If you are a citizen of the country or resident there and working then you get healthcare, what is wrong with that?

 

Do all Muslims stage demos? Do they all throw acid? 

 

And how is the UK doing at the moment without immigrant workers? 

I think the UK still has immigrant workers, so its all OK, I don't think any genuine immigrant workers have been chucked out, oh, a few foreign criminals have now been chucked out, at last..????

[proton]

12 minutes ago, PremiumLane said:

How are they leeching when all data shows that immigrants provide a net benefit to the economy?

If you are a citizen of the country or resident there and working then you get healthcare, what is wrong with that?

 

Do all Muslims stage demos? Do they all throw acid? 

 

And how is the UK doing at the moment without immigrant workers? 

Depends whose data you are looking at, they are not a net benefit if you look at what they take out and cost into account. Muslims are always staging demos over school teachers they disaprove of, including death threats, or films like the lady of heaven. They harass and have even stabbed people at speakers corner for exposing the lies in the Quran. They are offended by everything but ashamed of nothing!

 

[Kwasaki]

16 minutes ago, PremiumLane said:

hahaha where did you pull that 'fact' from?

Well did you live near there as I did or not. ?

The estate in Wembley was well know and has been pulled down and rebuilt on for years now. 

[jak2002003]

2 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

Agree UK should run the country as Thailand does. 

Really?  Well you may get your wish, as the way the government are messing it all up it will be a 3rd world country soon. ????

[proton]

2 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

Agree UK should run the country as Thailand does. 

Starting with ID cards and chucking illegals into detention centres until they pay their own fare back home!

[Chomper Higgot]

It hasn’t taken long for this topic to descend into racism, xenophobia and of course Islamophobia.

 

 

 

[Kwasaki]

Just now, proton said:

Starting with ID cards and chucking illegals into detention centres until they pay their own fare back home!

What about plugging the channel tunnel side coming from France with rubber boats. ????????