placeholder Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, bocaBob said: "Most voters suspect the news media buried the Hunter Biden story until after the election and think there’s a good chance that new President Biden was involved in his son’s overseas dealings." https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2020/most_think_media_hid_hunter_biden_story_before_election_day This is your idea of evidence? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TallGuyJohninBKK Posted October 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, bocaBob said: "Most voters suspect the news media buried the Hunter Biden story until after the election and think there’s a good chance that new President Biden was involved in his son’s overseas dealings." https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2020/most_think_media_hid_hunter_biden_story_before_election_day Go to Republican source for biased polling: "Rasmussen Reports /ˈræsˌmʌsən/[4] is an American conservative polling company founded in 2003." "After Trump lost the election, he and his allies made false and disproven claims of fraud and attempted to overturn the results, with Rasmussen itself suggesting that Vice President Mike Pence should overturn the election results." "Rasmussen has received criticism over the wording in its polls.[104][105] Asking a polling question with different wording can affect the results of the poll;[106] the commentators in question allege that the questions Rasmussen ask in polls are skewed in order to favor a specific response." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rasmussen_Reports 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaBob Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 (edited) Hunter Biden, Burisma, and Corruption: The Impact on U.S. Government Policy and Related Concerns https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/HSGAC_Finance_Report_FINAL.pdf Edited October 11, 2022 by onthedarkside oversized font removed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaBob Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 8 minutes ago, placeholder said: This is your idea of evidence? Just more proof of the regime media covering up for the Bidens. Jim Jordan et al will get the evidence sorted starting January 2023. Hunter is merely a pawn in this entire scenario, nobody cares about his. The Biden family is being targeted. The GOP will bring forward any evidence discovered during the planned, televised open investigations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TallGuyJohninBKK Posted October 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2022 Re the above cited report by Senate Republicans: "The reports retread familiar ground for those who followed the 2019 impeachment inquiry. And it’s hard to read these reports and not come to the same conclusion as those proceedings indicated: Hunter Biden’s role on the board of Ukrainian energy company Burisma had no impact on the Obama administration’s Ukraine policy decisions. But regardless of the substance of the reports, the episode paints a bleak picture of the demise of a key vehicle for congressional oversight. The years spent under Johnson’s leadership chasing unfounded conspiracies have sucked away the HSGAC’s credibility and atrophied the committee’s ability to conduct credible oversight." ... "Johnson and Grassley dug up no evidence of malfeasance on the elder Biden’s part." https://www.lawfareblog.com/what-make-johnson-grassley-report-biden-and-burisma 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaBob Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Wray: Allegations ‘troubling’ about FBI agent covering up Hunter Biden information https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/04/fbi-thibault-cover-up-hunter-biden-information-00049922 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, bocaBob said: Wray: Allegations ‘troubling’ about FBI agent covering up Hunter Biden information https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/04/fbi-thibault-cover-up-hunter-biden-information-00049922 "Wray seemed to raise doubts that Thibault was working at any recent time on issues related to Hunter Biden. The FBI chief said that investigation, reportedly focused on tax issues and potential foreign influence related to Hunter Biden’s business ties, is being run by the Bureau’s Baltimore Field Office, which handles matters related to Delaware." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onthedarkside Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 A post citing disallowed social media sources has been removed. Please see the forum's rule: "in factual areas such as but not limited to news, current affairs and health topics, social media cannot be used unless it is from a credible news media source or a government agency, and must include a link to the original source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, bocaBob said: Just more proof of the regime media covering up for the Bidens. Jim Jordan et al will get the evidence sorted starting January 2023. Hunter is merely a pawn in this entire scenario, nobody cares about his. The Biden family is being targeted. The GOP will bring forward any evidence discovered during the planned, televised open investigations. "The GOP will bring forward any evidence discovered during the planned, televised open investigations." So you acknowledge there is currently no evidence. We can at least agree on that. Edited October 11, 2022 by candide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onthedarkside Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 A trolling post with several non-news report sources has been removed. Also an off-topic trolling post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post xylophone Posted October 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jingthing said: Obviously but if they've got the goods on him they should go ahead and indict. And here you see, perfectly illustrated, the difference between supporters of Biden and co, and those of [Trump], whereby quite a few posters have suggested that if Hunter Biden is guilty of anything, then he should be indicted and tried for it. Whereas the trump supporters won't even acknowledge that their hero has told many hundreds of lies, stolen from a charity and deprived workingmen/tradesmen of their income by declaring bankruptcy (trump has taken business bankruptcies six time..Fact Checker) so according to their double standards, their hero is untouchable, and despite all of the evidence, they will defend him to the end, as can be seen on many posts here. Sad, so sad that they continue with this "grand illusion" and if it wasn't so sad, it would be funny, but then again............. Edited October 11, 2022 by onthedarkside name calling references removed 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 20 hours ago, bocaBob said: Wray: Allegations ‘troubling’ about FBI agent covering up Hunter Biden information https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/04/fbi-thibault-cover-up-hunter-biden-information-00049922 The problem with these allegations is that Thibault had nothing to do with either the Mar a Lago search nor the Hunter Biden investigation. https://www.mediaite.com/politics/retired-fbi-agent-knocks-down-right-wing-narrative-he-suppressed-hunter-biden-investigation-after-wild-trump-allegations/ From the article you linked to: "Wray seemed to raise doubts that Thibault was working at any recent time on issues related to Hunter Biden. The FBI chief said that investigation, reportedly focused on tax issues and potential foreign influence related to Hunter Biden’s business ties, is being run by the Bureau’s Baltimore Field Office, which handles matters related to Delaware." https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/04/fbi-thibault-cover-up-hunter-biden-information-00049922 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 2 hours ago, bocaBob said: Hunter Biden, Burisma, and Corruption: The Impact on U.S. Government Policy and Related Concerns https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/HSGAC_Finance_Report_FINAL.pdf That Senate report from a committee headed by Charles Grassley has not aged well. It was allegedly based on documents that weren't released to the public. You can see what a hatchet job it was via this piece of investigative journalism: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/10/01/fact-check-unproven-claims-hunter-biden-got-3-5-m-russia/3586861001/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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candide Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, placeholder said: That Senate report from a committee headed by Charles Grassley has not aged well. It was allegedly based on documents that weren't released to the public. You can see what a hatchet job it was via this piece of investigative journalism: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/10/01/fact-check-unproven-claims-hunter-biden-got-3-5-m-russia/3586861001/ From this article, it seems the origin of the unproved claim that Hunter received $3.5 million from Russia is a Facebook post used by Trump. ???? "The president had raised the issue Sept. 27 in a news conference in which he said the allegations "are all questions that are very, very big on the internet." The claim was also posted by a Facebook user on Sept. 26. "How did Robert Mueller do a 2 yr investigation on Russia and miss a $3.5 million payment to the Biden family?," the user wrote, adding "#askingforafriend." And "USA TODAY asked the Facebook user who posted the claim for a comment but did not get an immediate reply." ???? Edited October 11, 2022 by candide 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclag Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 On 10/11/2022 at 1:47 PM, bocaBob said: Americans are thirsting for transparency ! Most likely the Gop will win the majority in the house and according to them they are going after bidens son hunter. “We will subpoena Hunter Biden,” said House GOP conference chair Elise Stefanik bluntly in an interview with The Post. https://nypost.com/2022/03/26/house-republicans-will-subpoena-hunter-biden/ I hope its a open session for his father , family and all to watch! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DezLez Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 47 minutes ago, riclag said: I hope its a open session for his father , family and all to watch! Open season for what? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclag Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, DezLez said: Open season for what? Open , public, televised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DezLez Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, riclag said: Open , public, televised. Of what? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thaibeachlovers Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 On 10/11/2022 at 1:47 PM, bocaBob said: I'm sooooo hoping for a GOP house and senate, but even with just the house, the ensuing committee investigations will be worth watching. Roll on the elections- not long to go now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted October 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: I'm sooooo hoping for a GOP house and senate, but even with just the house, the ensuing committee investigations will be worth watching. So are clowns. For the last 5 years they've been trying to pin crimes on Joe Biden. And for 3 of those years he didn't have the office of the Presidency or vice-Presidency to protect him. And he didn't hire teams of lawyers to slow the process. Doublethinking much? Edited October 12, 2022 by placeholder 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SunnyinBangrak Posted October 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, placeholder said: So are clowns. For the last 5 years they've been trying to pin crimes on Joe Biden. And for 3 of those years he didn't have the office of the Presidency or vice-Presidency to protect him. And he didn't hire teams of lawyers to slow the process. Doublethinking much? Why would Biden have needed to hire teams of lawyers? He had the entire deep state and mainstream media working dishonestly to protect him. Do you remember this? The countries top 50 intelligence experts colluding to push an entirely false narrative to shield the Biden family from the law and to misinform the public just before an election. People were banned from the internet for stating the facts about this, even our oldest newspaper, banned for stating inconvenient truths. Really really evil stuff. Even though the FBI had the laptop, dishonest lefties were trying to shut down the discussion by making nonsensical comments about the emails lacking "metadata" to goad censors(or give them a plausible excuse) into censoring a factual story that did not suit the democrat narrative. Just a really low point in America's history. "Hunter Biden story is Russian disinfo, dozens of former intel officials say" https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/19/hunter-biden-story-russian-disinfo-430276 Given the absolute certainty and mountain of supporting evidence for the felony crime that Hunter lied on his firearm license by stating he was not a drug addict, when his own memoir and emails stated he was, and also he himself stated he was in frequent interviews. And so dangerous his throwing a gun into a waste basket in public. Nobody denies he committed a felony here. It's shocking behaviour, but no desire whatsoever to mete out any justice to the Bidens. Just forget it. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted October 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2022 Just now, SunnyinBangrak said: Why would Biden have needed to hire teams of lawyers? He had the entire deep state and mainstream media working dishonestly to protect him. Do you remember this? The countries top 50 intelligence experts colluding to push an entirely false narrative to shield the Biden family from the law and to misinform the public just before an election. People were banned from the internet for stating the facts about this, even our oldest newspaper, banned for stating inconvenient truths. Really really evil stuff. Even though the FBI had the laptop, dishonest lefties were trying to shut down the discussion by making nonsensical comments about the emails lacking "metadata" to goad censors(or give them a plausible excuse) into censoring a factual story that did not suit the democrat narrative. Just a really low point in America's history. "Hunter Biden story is Russian disinfo, dozens of former intel officials say" https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/19/hunter-biden-story-russian-disinfo-430276 Given the absolute certainty and mountain of supporting evidence for the felony crime that Hunter lied on his firearm license by stating he was not a drug addict, when his own memoir and emails stated he was, and also he himself stated he was in frequent interviews. And so dangerous his throwing a gun into a waste basket in public. Nobody denies he committed a felony here. It's shocking behaviour, but no desire whatsoever to mete out any justice to the Bidens. Just forget it. You mean the deep state that the Durham investigation was supposed to expose? It should be pointed out that while the authenticiy of much of the data has been confirmed, this is not the same thing as saying either that the laptop was Biden's or that all the data is confirmed. Before the laptop became news, it was well known that Hunter Biden's data had been hacked and could be found on the internet. Also, because the right wing possessors of that laptop mishandled it, the integrity of all the data can't be confirmed. https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/30/hunter-biden-laptop-data-examined/ And it's just weird to witness the doublethink of some people. As for "nobody denies he committed a felony here", would that were true in another case where the evidence is overwhelming that multiple felonies were committed yet lots of right-wing somebodies including yourself continue to deny it. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyinBangrak Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, placeholder said: It should be pointed out that while the authenticiy of much of the data has been confirmed, this is not the same thing as saying either that the laptop was Biden's or that all the data is confirmed. Before the laptop became news, it was well known that Hunter Biden's data had been hacked and could be found on the internet. Also, because the right wing possessors of that laptop mishandled it, the integrity of all the data can't be confirmed. https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/30/hunter-biden-laptop-data-examined/ "It should have been a huge story – it could have swung the election – but it died a death after the mainstream press and the tech firms dismissed it as Russian disinformation. It was nothing of the sort. Last week, The New York Times finally conceded the emails were authentic." https://www.theweek.co.uk/news/world-news/us/956305/hunter-bidens-laptop-the-burying-of-a-scandal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted October 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2022 30 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said: Why would Biden have needed to hire teams of lawyers? He had the entire deep state and mainstream media working dishonestly to protect him. Do you remember this? The countries top 50 intelligence experts colluding to push an entirely false narrative to shield the Biden family from the law and to misinform the public just before an election. People were banned from the internet for stating the facts about this, even our oldest newspaper, banned for stating inconvenient truths. Really really evil stuff. Even though the FBI had the laptop, dishonest lefties were trying to shut down the discussion by making nonsensical comments about the emails lacking "metadata" to goad censors(or give them a plausible excuse) into censoring a factual story that did not suit the democrat narrative. Just a really low point in America's history. "Hunter Biden story is Russian disinfo, dozens of former intel officials say" https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/19/hunter-biden-story-russian-disinfo-430276 Given the absolute certainty and mountain of supporting evidence for the felony crime that Hunter lied on his firearm license by stating he was not a drug addict, when his own memoir and emails stated he was, and also he himself stated he was in frequent interviews. And so dangerous his throwing a gun into a waste basket in public. Nobody denies he committed a felony here. It's shocking behaviour, but no desire whatsoever to mete out any justice to the Bidens. Just forget it. Just so we all know what we have here: ”He had the entire deep state and mainstream media working dishonestly to protect him.” Don’t waste your time arguing with that kind of off the Q nonsense. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted October 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2022 44 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said: "Hunter Biden story is Russian disinfo, dozens of former intel officials say" https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/19/hunter-biden-story-russian-disinfo-430276 Good link. As suspect, everything alleged without real evidence just like your post. Next. Extract from the link below. We want to emphasize that we do not know if the emails, provided to the New York Post by President Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani, are genuine or not and that we do not have evidence of Russian involvement,” the letter reads. But, it continues, “there are a number of factors that make us suspicious of Russian involvement.” 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post candide Posted October 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2022 3 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said: "It should have been a huge story – it could have swung the election – but it died a death after the mainstream press and the tech firms dismissed it as Russian disinformation. It was nothing of the sort. Last week, The New York Times finally conceded the emails were authentic." https://www.theweek.co.uk/news/world-news/us/956305/hunter-bidens-laptop-the-burying-of-a-scandal It had all the attributes of a Russian disinformation: found by a right-winger coming up with a strange story; brought by Giuliani (known for misinformation and his pro-Russia informers), only given to one single biased right-wing media, and not to all media, no metadata, etc... if the disclosers wanted to make it look like a disinformation, they could not have done it better! Not to mention the reputation of Trump and the right-wing from diffusing fake news and conspiracy theories: birtherism, pizzagate, etc..., including coming from Russia (INC/Crowdstrike). Not to mention either the Russian attempts to influence the previous elections. When people have a proven record of lying, they should be surprised when no one believes them. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TallGuyJohninBKK Posted October 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2022 And the main thing that the right-wing seems to keep trying hard to avoid amid all their would-be conspiracies.... There was NO credible information back in 2020, or even today, that then candidate Joe Biden or today's President Joe Biden was involved in any wrongdoing, that he profited or had any real financial stake in any of his son's activities, or that any of his son's activities influenced his policies in any way. That's why the whole thing had no business influencing the 2020 election, why much of the mainstream media didn't associate it with the presidential campaign, and why even to this day it has nothing PROVEN to do with President Biden or his actions.... Who knows... maybe something REAL will surface somewhere in the future, and if it does, so be it.... But right now, as regards Joe Biden, it's a big NOTHING in terms of any proven, pertinent facts..... As illustrated by the following that undercuts one of the right-wing's main talking points: "there is an alleged email provided by Tony Bobulinski about the deal with the Chinese energy tycoon, sent by Hunter business associate James Gilliar to Bobulinski and Hunter in May 2017, that suggests a split of equity for their new business venture. In addition for “20 H” (20 percent for Hunter) and “10 Jim” (10 percent for James Biden), it includes the line: “10 held by H for the big guy ?” ... Furthermore, there is also a message six days after this one where Hunter says that his “Chairman” gave him “an emphatic NO.” Fox News claims the “chairman” is Joe Biden, which if true would seem to suggest he turned down Hunter’s offer. In any case, the deal involving Bobulinski ended up falling apart." https://www.vox.com/2020/10/22/21529237/hunter-biden-debate-laptop-tony-bobulinski 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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