Government opposition ‘Pheu Thai’ party to reintroduce its policy of War on Drugs, including cannabis, following Nong Bua Lamphu mass shooting

[steven100]

3 minutes ago, Bert got kinky said:

Drugs have killed many young folk around the world

So glad that the same cannot be said of alcohol.

 

 

yes ... alcohol has killed many also Bert .... but i'm just talking about hard drugs and the suppliers, users etc ....  the heroin and ice addicts,  not little old Bert with his marijuana cigarette 

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, futsukayoi said:

You see no difference between cannabis and say PCP or heroin ?  I think your rational thinking could do with some improvement.

Those who want to take drugs will take drugs.

Putting them in prison will not stop them taking drugs.

Making drugs illegal is merely a way for governments and police to make money and exert control.

[Orinoco]

4 hours ago, mikebell said:

 Do Thais ever have an original thought? 

No

[AddyA]

1 hour ago, nobodysfriend said:

Did you get your 4th Covid shot yet ?

What do you think?

[jacko45k]

3 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Depends where you are, having a beer could get you beheaded in some countries.

Don't be silly now...... 

[Smithson]

How quick to blame drugs and call to renew the policy of extra judicial killings by police.

 

Personally I think such a policy can create physcopaths capable of mass killings.

[hotchilli]

9 hours ago, webfact said:

Sitting government opposition party ‘Pheu Thai’ is planning to reintroduce its policy of strict drug elimination as well as conduct a review of firearm possession among security personnel after the tragic incident of the Nong Bua Lamphu mass shooting on Thursday, October 6th.

The latest knee jerk reaction.

[mrfill]

8 hours ago, steven100 said:

not those drug makers,  I mean the meth, heroin and yaba makers. 

But those makers I mention do produce heroin. They may call it diamorphine and put it in a smart bottle but it is pure heroin - used extensively in palliative nursing and extreme pain. Now you want to kill them and prevent suffering people from getting relief. What kind of monster are you?

 

Will you also include the alcohol makers in your My Favourite Death List'? or have you never seen the havoc that drug has created?

[steven100]

9 minutes ago, mrfill said:

y call it diamorphine and put it in a smart bottle but it is pure heroin - used extensively in palliative nursing and extreme pain.

and that's great ....  but I mean the drug addict making meth in the back shed for pushing onto innocent lives everywhere .....   you get my drift   '   

[Dogmatix]

15 hours ago, 2baht said:

The 2500 or so people Thaksin had eliminated during his reign had little impact on the drug problem, how many more do you think need to be eliminated for you to realise it's beyond your power to control? ????When you eliminate those that control and fascilitate the supply, and NOT the end users, you may be onto something!

Definitely the murders of these people in the name of Thaksin's war on drugs made no difference to the drug situation: the 9 year boy murdered by police in the back of his mum's car, the 15 year old girl murdered on her way to school and the 70 year old woman murdered while drinking a sprite on her porch, the couple who won big on the lottery and decided to keep it quiet which resulted in them being murdered by police for being unusually wealthy presume to be from drug dealing & etc & etc.

 

RIP to all those brutally murdered in Thaksin's fake war on drugs that was really just a way for police to murder anyone they felt like with impunity. 

[mickj88]

Well as usual theres a lot of negativity on posts but no one has a solution. I first came to LOS in 2003 and no Yabba in the village - no canabis  in the village , the thing that sent people over the edge was loakoaw ( forgive spelling). So whether the war on drugs was a success or not,make you own minds up but in my mind people were less likely to dabble due to severe cosequences. As for some numbers put up here of only 76 deaths in 2 mass killings fair enough but in and around our isaan village alone there have been more than 20 yabba related deaths in the last 10 years but they just dont make the news / Thai visa . com etc.  I suggest before jumping on the bandwagon and slagging off plans you might formulate a solution yourself. Most foreigners on here just love to troll esp when the overwhelming populations chosen political party says anything .Yabba is a plague in the villages and towns of Isaan and someting needs to be done what I do not know maybe find the suppliers and cut the head off the snake.

[2baht]

7 hours ago, Dogmatix said:

RIP to all those brutally murdered in Thaksin's fake war on drugs that was really just a way for police to murder anyone they felt like with impunity. 

Pheu Thai is aiming up for round two if they win! Draconian thinking!

[bobbin]

11 hours ago, mickj88 said:

Well as usual theres a lot of negativity on posts but no one has a solution. I first came to LOS in 2003 and no Yabba in the village - no canabis  in the village , the thing that sent people over the edge was loakoaw ( forgive spelling). So whether the war on drugs was a success or not,make you own minds up but in my mind people were less likely to dabble due to severe cosequences. As for some numbers put up here of only 76 deaths in 2 mass killings fair enough but in and around our isaan village alone there have been more than 20 yabba related deaths in the last 10 years but they just dont make the news / Thai visa . com etc.  I suggest before jumping on the bandwagon and slagging off plans you might formulate a solution yourself. Most foreigners on here just love to troll esp when the overwhelming populations chosen political party says anything .Yabba is a plague in the villages and towns of Isaan and someting needs to be done what I do not know maybe find the suppliers and cut the head off the snake.

So an average of 2 yaba-related deaths per year. But what does related mean?

 

I don't have statistics but yaba per se is not a killer..

 

"cutting the head off the snake" does not work.. hasn't worked over the last 70 years.. Too much money involved. The next "head" is waiting in the wings..

 

What will work? General Paiboon, on returning from a closed door meeting in New York at the UN, said the War was unwinnable. That was the consensus view at that meeting. He said it was time for society to learn how to live with "drugs".

 

He went on to say that he favored legalization of methamphetamine. Why? Because present laws do not allow use by qualified Medical Doctors. That is important why? Because to date, the only successful treatment involves slowly decreasing the meth dosage until the user is able to stop using with the least discomfort and the biggest chance of success. This is not possible under current law.

[johnnybangkok]

1 hour ago, bobbin said:

So an average of 2 yaba-related deaths per year. But what does related mean?

 

I don't have statistics but yaba per se is not a killer..

 

"cutting the head off the snake" does not work.. hasn't worked over the last 70 years.. Too much money involved. The next "head" is waiting in the wings..

 

What will work? General Paiboon, on returning from a closed door meeting in New York at the UN, said the War was unwinnable. That was the consensus view at that meeting. He said it was time for society to learn how to live with "drugs".

 

He went on to say that he favored legalization of methamphetamine. Why? Because present laws do not allow use by qualified Medical Doctors. That is important why? Because to date, the only successful treatment involves slowly decreasing the meth dosage until the user is able to stop using with the least discomfort and the biggest chance of success. This is not possible under current law.

Exactly. Stop treating drug addiction as a criminal activity and start viewing it as a medical condition.

Many of my friends and myself have tried all sorts of drugs without it impacting on our lives whatsoever. Myself and many of my friends drink alcohol without becoming alcoholics and eat at McDonalds without being fat. Addiction is a terrible thing buts it's a medical/phycological problem that needs medical and mental health experts rather than police and politicians.

It's just too easy though for politicians to jump on the 'all drugs users are scum' bandwagon as it resonates with a certain voting demographic who think repeating the same mistakes time and time again is still the solution to this problem. It isn't and will never be.