'Not a repudiation': Joe Biden holds off red wave, gets unexpected boost from midterm election

[nauseus]

48 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

So Trumps claims that the election was stolen, and he tried to stop the electors in a few states from counting votes, as well as his trying to stop Pence and the July 6th capitol riot to block the certificatio  of the vote are all lies in your view...well well looks like someone has been drinking the Orange kool-aid.  

I think you know what I meant.

[earlinclaifornia]

4 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

I watched both Fox and MSNBC this morning to see their reactions. Hats off to Fox - the hour with Bret Baier et al were blunt and honest. They were getting the point across that in a midterm election, the out-of-office party usually has a solid victory. This year, the Republicans should have swept across the country but didn't, so the question kept coming up, "What could the Republicans have done better to get the expected victory?"

 

MSNBC and Biden were embarrassing. Victory dances over a less-than-spectacular defeat, and when Biden was asked what he could do better over the next two years to improve Democrats' numbers, he replied, "Nothing." The hubris of that man is part of what is killing the Democratic party.

 

It's easy to predict a Republican presidential win in 2024. If Joe runs, it's a total fail. If VP Harris runs, the same. And who else to the Dems have?

Tasting those SOUR grapes today? Not surprised. Ham Sandwich is a 100% improvement over Trump. Or better yet Green Trump

[nauseus]

46 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

But of course you cannot refute it.

 

The National Debt jumped $7,000,000,000,000, or 37% under profligate 45. 45 took over in 2017. Covid did not hit until March 2020, 45's last year.

 

"It'll disappear, like magic, by Easter".  Yea, 45, and Dewey beats Truman.

 

45 was an abject disaster. He now seems to be on his political deathbed. He lost the House, Senate and White House for repubs in 2020, and the supposed Red Wave was more the Red Tide....and the tide went out. 45's endorsement is worth as much as last week's losing lottery ticket.

 

repubs are slow to learn, but they may well have finally accepted that 45 is not their future.

 

Even the right wing NY Post has moved on from 45, with today's headline: DeFuture.

 

It would be appropriate for 45 to announce his candidacy at Four Seasons Landscaping, like where Nesferatu Ghouliani held his silly presser to talk about Hugo Chavez' ghost rigging electronic voting machines or traces of bamboo from China found in mail in ballots.

 

 

All been through before - 5T of that was in Covid 2020. Boring.

[HappyExpat57]

27 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

Fascism is left wing.

The more posts you make, the more you show how little you understand.

[earlinclaifornia]

26 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

Based on the small sample of Republican voters here it looks like they are ready to dump Trump and go all in on De Santis.  My guess is the democrats will retain the senate with Arizona looking good and I think the more scrutiny of Herschell Walker the better for the Democrats - both morally and intellectually. He's the perfect example of a dud candidate and if I was a Republican I would be embarrassed that he was picked to represent my interests. 

Walker won't get any lift for Kemp not on the ballot for this runoff election. Big time loss for his possibilities

[nauseus]

28 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

Based on the small sample of Republican voters here it looks like they are ready to dump Trump and go all in on De Santis.  My guess is the democrats will retain the senate with Arizona looking good and I think the more scrutiny of Herschell Walker the better for the Democrats - both morally and intellectually. He's the perfect example of a dud candidate and if I was a Republican I would be embarrassed that he was picked to represent my interests. 

Well this dud earned a rematch.

[OneMoreFarang]

7 hours ago, Lacessit said:

One good thing to come out of this, the madness of the Trump cult has been repudiated. The message has even registered with Republicans.

No need to wonder what's going to happen to the "campaign" funds Trump has sucked in from the sheeple.

Trump would be dead since years if we would believe everybody who writes/says now it's over.

One problem with Trump supporters is that they ignore facts and evidence. 

Hopefully the majority of GOP politicians will somehow someday grow a spine and tell Trump they had enough of him and his cult. But somehow I don't think that will happen anytime soon.

[nauseus]

28 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Nonsense, Biden is running the country , he’s selected a good team and trey are on the job.

 

No cozying  up to America’s enemies, no funneling money to his own businesses, no hate bating, no milking the wallets of his supporters, no extorting America’s allies, no mocking the disabled, no spreading dangerous misinformation, no aiding and abetting a deadly virus, no inciting insurrection.

 

Just doing the job, halving the deficit, getting America back to work again and returning America to its rightful position on the world stage.

 

 

Yep he's running it alright - into the ground.

 

Halving the deficit? Err. 

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4 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Yep he's running it alright - into the ground.

 

Halving the deficit? Err. 

Err what exactly?

https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/americas-finance-guide/national-deficit/

[earlinclaifornia]

2 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

At t

At the risk of derailing the topic, you are comparing apples to viruses. Trump's first 3 years (pre covid) were quite good economically- unemployment went from 4% to 3.5% before the lockdowns.  Inflation in the 2% range. Gas two bucks a gallon.   

 

I would LOVE the Democrats to do a victory dance about the mid terms and then get complacent. Biden runs again in 2024 would be a dream for the GOP.   

Did you miss out on todays lesson perhaps. The wave was not part of the election. Biden took a victory lap. Not only can he steamroll Trump by an even larger margin but still "ham Sandwich" will bet out any Republican

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[Phoenix Rising]

39 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Well this dud earned a rematch.

Yes. Hugely embarrassing for Americans in general and Republicans in particular, right?

[Sparktrader]

53 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

The more posts you make, the more you show how little you understand.

Study history. Socialist Mussolini founded it. He hated free speech and capitalism. 

 

Clearly you don't understand the basics.

[Sparktrader]

Pubs still lead both houses. 

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3 hours ago, Sparktrader said:

Study history. Socialist Mussolini founded it. He hated free speech and capitalism. 

 

Clearly you don't understand the basics.

Clearly you have no acquaintance with the facts:

"In April 1919 Fascists and nationalists burned down the offices of the national Socialist daily, L’Avanti!, in Milan."

" Local Fascist groups were soon founded in Emilia, Tuscany, and Puglia and by autumn 1920 were busy not only breaking up strikes but also dismantling Socialist and Catholic labour unions and peasants’ cooperatives and—often with police collusion—overthrowing newly elected local councils. Fascist squads, dressed in black-shirted uniforms and often financed by landowners or industrialists, used systematic violence to destroy these organizations. "

https://www.britannica.com/place/Italy/The-Fascist-era

 

 

[candide]

5 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

Hats off to Fox - the hour with Bret Baier et al were blunt and honest. They were getting the point across that in a midterm election, the out-of-office party usually has a solid victory. This year, the Republicans should have swept across the country but didn't, so the question kept coming up, "What could the Republicans have done better to get the expected victory?"

No honesty, only the voice of their Master. Murdoch is supporting DeSantis now.

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1 hour ago, nauseus said:

All been through before - 5T of that was in Covid 2020. Boring.

False. Google over 3 trillion of that was in in coffee 2020 about 2.75 trillion was for covid 2021.

[candide]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Inflation wasn't a thing 2 years ago so can't blame him for it.

 

Energy crisis? There was no such crisis 2 years ago and fracking made the US energy independent of imports- they even started exporting oil. So, who stopped the fracking?

 

No supply chain issues 2 years ago, so what changed? The Republicans were not in charge when they became a problem.

Inflation and energy crisis are global issues. There is no domestic shortage of energy and the U.S. was still a net exporter in 2021 and 2022.

https://www.ogj.com/general-interest/economics-markets/article/14283286/eia-us-exported-record-amounts-of-petroleum-products-in-firsthalf-2022

 

As concerns inflation, it is also global issue.. Actually, The U.S. is faring better than the OECD average.

[heybruce]

8 hours ago, Lacessit said:

One good thing to come out of this, the madness of the Trump cult has been repudiated. The message has even registered with Republicans.

No need to wonder what's going to happen to the "campaign" funds Trump has sucked in from the sheeple.

DeSantis is all about noise and stunts paid for by taxpayers, along with the inevitable lawsuits.  Trump's base will love him.

[heybruce]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Inflation wasn't a thing 2 years ago so can't blame him for it.

 

Energy crisis? There was no such crisis 2 years ago and fracking made the US energy independent of imports- they even started exporting oil. So, who stopped the fracking?

 

No supply chain issues 2 years ago, so what changed? The Republicans were not in charge when they became a problem.

That's the kind of ignorance that comes from watching Fox News.

 

Inflation is a global problem caused by supply chain issues.  Biden is doing what he can to bring supply chains closer to or inside the US, but that is a project that takes years.  In the meantime he has no more power over inflation than any other national leader.

 

There was no energy crisis 2 years ago because demand was much lower.  Oil producers stopped the fracking because costs were exceeding price.  They won't invest the money to restart until they are confidant long term prices will justify the expense.

 

The supply chain issues were caused by an economic rebound post-Covid and are now largely caused by China's flawed Covid policies.  What do you suggest Biden do about that?

[Bkk Brian]

2 hours ago, gargamon said:

Trumpty-Dumpty sat on a wall

Trumpty-Dumpty had a great fall

All the king's horses

And all the king's men

Couldn't put Trumpty back together again

 

The knives are out.............

 

https://nypost.com/

[HappyExpat57]

55 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

Study history. Socialist Mussolini founded it. He hated free speech and capitalism. 

 

Clearly you don't understand the basics.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

"Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, ..."

In other words Trump, DeSantis, etc.

[candide]

27 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

The knives are out.............

 

https://nypost.com/

Also owned by Murdoch.

He has definitely chosen DeSantis side.

[Eric Loh]

15 minutes ago, heybruce said:

DeSantis is all about noise and stunts paid for by taxpayers, along with the inevitable lawsuits.  Trump's base will love him.

Will Trump’s loyal base love him or blame him for the preventing his comeback. After all the bile spewed by Trump at DeSantis, the well has been poisoned and may be difficult for Desantis to inherit Trump’s base unless Trump concede and call for his base to switch support for DeSantis. Am I dreaming? Looking forward to a bitter and ugly primary. 

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, Eric Loh said:

Will Trump’s loyal base love him or blame him for the preventing his comeback. After all the bile spewed by Trump at DeSantis, the well has been poisoned and may be difficult for Desantis to inherit Trump’s base unless Trump concede and call for his base to switch support for DeSantis. Am I dreaming? Looking forward to a bitter and ugly primary. 

The animosity between Trump and De Santis has only just got started.

 

 

[Eric Loh]

6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The animosity between Trump and De Santis has only just got started.

 

 

Exactly. If the RP cant unite their base, Republican voters may be disillusioned and not turn up for the 2024 election giving the advantage to the DP. 

[ThailandRyan]

2 hours ago, nauseus said:

I think you know what I meant.

Please elucidate me.

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https://edition.cnn.com/

 

 

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Democrats are breathing a sigh of relief. But their troubles are far from over

America is returning to an era of divided government and two years of grinding trench warfare

 

It was a result that, Joe Biden said on Wednesday, gave everyone a “whew! sigh of relief” that Make America Great Again (Maga) Republicans are not taking over the government again.

 

Biden won and Donald Trump lost in midterm elections to decide control of Congress. But just as in 2020, a collective exhalation is not enough to spell the end of political dysfunction in America. Things are about to get messy.

 

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/nov/09/biden-legislative-agenda-republicans-control-house-analysis