webfact Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Protests or public gatherings which will disrupt officials in their performance of duties during the APEC Summit and related meetings, between November 14th and 19th, are banned from the Queen Sirikit National Convention Centre and 19 hotels during that period, according to an announcement from the Prime Minister’s Office. The 19 hotels are: Grand Hyatt Erawan Anantara Siam Park Hyatt Rosewood Bangkok The Okura Prestige The Athenee Conrad Bangkok KIimpton Malai Bangkok Sinthorn Kempinski Bangkok Sheraton Grand Sukhumvit Siam Kempinski Bangkok So Bangkok Waldorf Astoria The Saint Rigis Bangkok Marriott Marquis Queen’s Park Sukhothai Bangkok Banyan Tree Mandarin Oriental Bangkok Shangri-La Bangkok Source: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/queen-sirikit-convention-centre-and-19-hotels-off-limits-to-protesters-nov-14th-19th/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2022-11-12 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. Monthly car subscription with first-class insurance, 24x7 assistance and more in one price - click here to find out more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikke1959 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) Freedom of speech , freedom to protest, but not in places where somebody can see or hear you and certainly not by non Thais and other Governments, as in Thailand everything is perfect.... Sad that everything is so controlled by army, police and Government... And it is fake as the world knows what is going on here already... just not to loose face now.. But there will be a day that Thai people don't accept it anymore.. and than...... Edited November 12, 2022 by ikke1959 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Liverpool Lou Posted November 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 12, 2022 52 minutes ago, webfact said: The 19 hotels are: Grand Hyatt Erawan Anantara Siam Park Hyatt Rosewood Bangkok The Okura Prestige The Athenee Conrad Bangkok KIimpton Malai Bangkok Sinthorn Kempinski Bangkok Sheraton Grand Sukhumvit Siam Kempinski Bangkok So Bangkok Waldorf Astoria The Saint Rigis Bangkok Marriott Marquis Queen’s Park Sukhothai Bangkok Banyan Tree Mandarin Oriental Bangkok Shangri-La Bangkok Wonder why they left off the PB Hotel, Soi 3? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 1 hour ago, webfact said: between November 14th and 19th, are banned from the Queen Sirikit National Convention Centre and 19 hotels during that period, according to an announcement from the Prime Minister’s Office. Thailand ways of respecting/enforcing democracy, human rights, free speech, free movement .... as long the international media and community don't see it, they can claim they are respecting it... farcical at it's best 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 1 hour ago, ikke1959 said: Freedom of speech , freedom to protest, but not in places where somebody can see or hear you and certainly not by non Thais and other Governments, as in Thailand everything is perfect.... Sad that everything is so controlled by army, police and Government... And it is fake as the world knows what is going on here already... just not to loose face now.. But there will be a day that Thai people don't accept it anymore.. and than...... Let them protest somewhere where they don't interrupt everything. That week will be bad traffic for everybody even under best conditions. We really don't need any protesters to make it worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 42 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said: Wonder why they left off the PB Hotel, Soi 3? People have to relax somewhere. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 1 hour ago, ikke1959 said: Freedom of speech , freedom to protest, but not in places where somebody can see or hear you and certainly not by non Thais and other Governments, as in Thailand everything is perfect.... Sad that everything is so controlled by army, police and Government... And it is fake as the world knows what is going on here already... just not to loose face now.. But there will be a day that Thai people don't accept it anymore.. and than...... Why? do you of a country, any country that is perfect? in more than some countries protestors are shot at and arrested, do you not see the the news?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikke1959 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, ezzra said: Why? do you of a country, any country that is perfect? in more than some countries protestors are shot at and arrested, do you not see the the news?... yes in Thailand .......They even use watercanons with chemicals... Block with containers, Should see how they protest in Amsterdam for instance...or France, or USA , the capitol... forgot it?? Edited November 12, 2022 by ikke1959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMHERE Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) That list of hotels; are they all Five Star, highfalutin, or pricey ? I Googled the first three; YES, expensive, more than I can afford. Edited November 12, 2022 by IAMHERE spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikke1959 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said: Let them protest somewhere where they don't interrupt everything. That week will be bad traffic for everybody even under best conditions. We really don't need any protesters to make it worse. They surely have a point to protest or do you agree that the country is ruined now?? High corruption, high airpollution, slow decision making, no serious investments in traffic education, but greed and pocketfilling... and a justicesystem that is gives no justice There is a big need to change 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champers Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 No meeting of national leaders worth it's salt goes ahead without a proper protest taking place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 37 minutes ago, ikke1959 said: They surely have a point to protest or do you agree that the country is ruined now?? High corruption, high airpollution, slow decision making, no serious investments in traffic education, but greed and pocketfilling... and a justicesystem that is gives no justice There is a big need to change And what does all of that have to do with APEC - Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation? Sure, there are problems in Thailand, since forever. And they should be solved. But I don't think any (disrupting) protests at APEC time will change that. Thais should vote for competent and honest politicians. That would make a huge difference. But it seems that is not what most Thais want to do. They prefer to vote again and again for the same corrupt politicians and then they are somehow surprised when they have a corrupt and incompetent government. Protests won't change that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 37 minutes ago, champers said: No meeting of national leaders worth it's salt goes ahead without a proper protest taking place. Define "proper protest". And how many of those leaders will notice and how many will care? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 44 minutes ago, IAMHERE said: That list of hotels; are they all Five Star, highfalutin, or pricey ? I Googled the first three; YES, expensive, more than I can afford. Of course they are. Does anybody expect that any of the leaders like to stay in cheap hotels? Maybe with a special price just for APEC delegates? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Who pays for all of the hotels? Do individual countries pay there own? Or is it the trusty Thai Taxpayer putting money into the pockets of the big families who own the hotels and the convention center? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussieroaming Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 The international delegates enter into the alternate reality, where Prayut pretends that the Junta never existed and Prawit keeps time on his borrowed "stolen" Rolex. Protestors keep out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letseng Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 4 hours ago, ikke1959 said: They surely have a point to protest or do you agree that the country is ruined now?? High corruption, high airpollution, slow decision making, no serious investments in traffic education, but greed and pocketfilling... and a justicesystem that is gives no justice There is a big need to change Wonder which immaculate country you come from? ???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenslegs Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 5 hours ago, IAMHERE said: That list of hotels; are they all Five Star, highfalutin, or pricey ? I Googled the first three; YES, expensive, more than I can afford. You don't need to ask the price if the tax-payer is paying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elkski Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 So are the penalties for protesting in these areas raised now? I think protests at big summits are so the respective reporters from each country writes a story about the reasons for the protests. It will be interesting to see how things really go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 18 hours ago, webfact said: Protests or public gatherings which will disrupt officials in their performance of duties during the APEC Summit and related meetings, between November 14th and 19th, are banned from the Queen Sirikit National Convention Centre and 19 hotels during that period, according to an announcement from the Prime Minister’s Office. Keep order I say... Keep order. Wonder where I've heard that before?.. Ahhh yes just before the gunshot.. now I remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 17 hours ago, ikke1959 said: Freedom of speech , freedom to protest, but not in places where somebody can see or hear you and certainly not by non Thais and other Governments, as in Thailand everything is perfect.... Sad that everything is so controlled by army, police and Government... And it is fake as the world knows what is going on here already... just not to loose face now.. But there will be a day that Thai people don't accept it anymore.. and than...... Boom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 16 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: Let them protest somewhere where they don't interrupt everything. That week will be bad traffic for everybody even under best conditions. We really don't need any protesters to make it worse. Some people don't like to be trodden on like dirt.. they do something about it... and not in a far off location where they can't be heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikke1959 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 4 hours ago, hotchilli said: Boom? No they should put containers in front of the gates as they do normally at the Government house and other places 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NativeBob Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Thai MFA pays first, later send bills to atendees accordingly. The whole process takes monthes, some countries play "not received your fax yet". Funny thing is that some hotels refuse to participate for security reasons, but generally its a big deal of money. And corruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamnutsak Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 This was in response to the swimmers earlier this week... https://www.nationthailand.com/thailand/40021963 The police presence in the park this morning was massive. Feel for the chaps wearing the full riot gear. I udnerstand the need for security but the overwhelming presence makes it seem like the government has now real power without force. Lots of BMWs in the neighboorhood, checking foreigners. Thailand's constitution guarantees free spech except, but, if someone decides they don't like what protesters are saying. Section 34. A person shall enjoy the liberty to express opinions, make speeches, write, print, publicise and express by other means. The restriction of such liberty shall not be imposed, except by virtue of the provisions of law specifically enacted for the purpose of maintaining the security of the State, protecting the rights or liberties of other persons, maintaining public order or good morals, or protecting the health of the people. Academic freedom shall be protected. However, the exercise of such freedom shall not be contrary to the duties of the Thai people or good morals, and shall respect and not obstruct the different views of another person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkok19 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 On 11/12/2022 at 5:15 PM, Liverpool Lou said: Wonder why they left off the PB Hotel, Soi 3? It would be perfect... plenty of off-street parking! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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