19 minutes ago, Isaan sailor said:

Always liked Twitter—and now even more.  Free speech rules.

I just became a member a month ago ! I was fortunate to be able to participate in the poll!

I like to see the FPOTUS followers numbers exceed further!

I also would like to see him post now and again!

Owe it all to Musk for his fortitude and money to right the ship of freedom ,me thinks.

Edited November 21, 20223 yr by riclag

10 minutes ago, riclag said:

I just became a member a month ago ! I was fortunate to be able to participate in the poll!

I like to see the FPOTUS followers numbers exceed further!

I also would like to see him post now and again!

Owe it all to Musk for his fortitude and money to right the ship of freedom ,me thinks.

Calling Twitter "the ship of freedom" is kinda like calling the porn industry 'the vessel of sexual education'.

IMHO, obviously.....

41 minutes ago, Isaan sailor said:

Always liked Twitter—and now even more.  Free speech rules.

Has Alex Jones account been re activated then?

59 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

But banned books and lesson on race and gender issues. Free speech as the radical rights see it. 

What books? What issues? Only 2 genders.

25 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Has Alex Jones account been re activated then?

You miss him?

52 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

The problem is that The Left define hate speech as any opinion that they disagree with. Then try to ban it on that basis (while simultaneously hating on the likes of Donald Trump, Elon Musk etc.). ????

 

 

Yes they are the biggest haters.

Hate speech isn't about hating specific individuals for cause.

 

Examples.

 

I hate Donald Trump for all his socially destructive actions.

 

Not hate speech

 

White people are all devils. 

 

Hate speech.

 

Ye:

 

I hate my manager Schmeke Pickleberg because he ripped me off.

 

Not hate speech. 

 

I'm gonna do death con 3 on the Jews.

 

Hate speech. 

 

Got it now?

17 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

You miss him?

Nope nor does Musk who has flatly refused to open his account. Free speech does have limits

Off topic posts about Trump's speech at Mar A Lago and the replies have been removed.

14 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

 

White people are all devils. 

 

Hate speech.

 

Got it now?

Sorry, Squire, but I'm feeling a bit dumb today, but how about  this sentence:

"I hate white people who behave like devils".  Is that hate speech? if not, why not?

41 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

What books? What issues? Only 2 genders.

4 genders. Radical rights scared of historic truth. 

3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

The poll was a free vote for fake accounts from anywhere in the world and from bots. Is that what you call democracy?

And of course you know that for a fact?

5 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

And of course you know that for a fact?

Yes.

10 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

 

None. BUT if you really needed to know if the votes were real or not, Musk has the contact details of each Twitter voter. So in a way, it is more trustworthy and reliable, because the votes can be checked if genuine or not.

There are many reasons, explained repeatedly, to suspect the outcome of this poll.  All Musk has to do the show it was legitimate is conduct the investigation you outlined, and maybe explain why most of the world didn't know a poll was being conducted until it was over. 

 

What are the chances of this happening?

 

BTW:  You also suggested that mail-in voting could not be trusted.  Explain to me how you would commit voter fraud using absentee ballots.  You can't, for the simple reasons that it is difficult, time consuming, risky, and with a very low probability of affecting an election.

8 hours ago, James105 said:

Both sides used bots.  The left think that only their bots should be valid.   I'm sure once the bots were taken away the result would be the same if not higher for reinstatement of Trump as the majority of people still believe in the concept of freedom of speech.

 

It's only the reinstatement of a Twitter account that Musk could easily enable with or without a poll.   Quite why people work themselves up into a frothing mess about this is beyond comprehension.   

Whether you think bots had no significant affect on the outcome is irrelevant.  The fact that they were almost certainly used robs the result of any credibility.

 

Twitter was Trump's favorite tool for spreading lies about the election he lost and for motivating people to come to Washington DC and listen to more of his lies in a speech that resulted in the assault on the Capitol.  In short, Trump used Twitter to spread lies and motivate people to commit violent sedition.  That's a good reason to keep him off Twitter.

1 hour ago, riclag said:

I just became a member a month ago ! I was fortunate to be able to participate in the poll!

I like to see the FPOTUS followers numbers exceed further!

I also would like to see him post now and again!

Owe it all to Musk for his fortitude and money to right the ship of freedom ,me thinks.

Actually you also owe a fair bit of it to a Saudi Arabian Prince, who I’m sure has your ‘freedom’ at heart.

4 hours ago, hotchilli said:

The poll was a free vote.. what's your problem..

you don't like democracy?

Go back to the beginning of this topic and read all the comments.  They will explain why this was not democracy or a legitimate poll by any stretch of the imagination.

3 hours ago, blazes said:

Excellent insight (for once).  So, now you see why Musk wanted to take over Twitter and maybe discover precisely how  many bots there are in that quagmire.

Pity he didn't do that before conducting this meaningless poll.

2 hours ago, blazes said:

"alternative facts" is what Her Majesty the Queen characterised as "others will have different recollections" and what Megan Markle calls "my truth."

Which is why alternative facts are not real facts.

Just one more twit on Twitter.. 

4 minutes ago, heybruce said:

3 hours ago, blazes said:

"alternative facts" is what Her Majesty the Queen characterised as "others will have different recollections" and what Megan Markle calls "my truth."

Which is why alternative facts are not real facts.

I  look forward to some softball interviewer on some future occasion challenging Ms Markle and her "truth", saying  "but, Ms Markle, surely you're not saying that your truth is just alternative facts?"

8 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Whether you think bots had no significant affect on the outcome is irrelevant.  The fact that they were almost certainly used robs the result of any credibility.

 

Twitter was Trump's favorite tool for spreading lies about the election he lost and for motivating people to come to Washington DC and listen to more of his lies in a speech that resulted in the assault on the Capitol.  In short, Trump used Twitter to spread lies and motivate people to commit violent sedition.  That's a good reason to keep him off Twitter.

Sigh.  The left spread lies all the time, it's just that you happen to agree with them as you agree with the agenda/narrative.   The "assault on the capital" makes it sound like it was something quite major (something akin to the BLM riots and violence that was incited by the left), but all I can recall was seeing some chap with a viking hat meandering around a building.  

14 minutes ago, blazes said:

I  look forward to some softball interviewer on some future occasion challenging Ms Markle and her "truth", saying  "but, Ms Markle, surely you're not saying that your truth is just alternative facts?"

Really?  You pay attention to that kind of nonsense?  I couldn't care less about Markle, royal families, celebrities, reality tv, and all else like that.  But then I'm not a Trump supporter either.

 

But to your point, if her truth is not based on verifiable facts then it is just BS.

Edited November 21, 20223 yr by heybruce

15 minutes ago, James105 said:

Sigh.  The left spread lies all the time, it's just that you happen to agree with them as you agree with the agenda/narrative.   The "assault on the capital" makes it sound like it was something quite major (something akin to the BLM riots and violence that was incited by the left), but all I can recall was seeing some chap with a viking hat meandering around a building.  

That's because you actively avoided seeing all the videos and testimonies showing it was a violent attack on the Capitol while Congress was in session with the goal of preventing the legal certification of the 2020 Presidential election result.

 

What you are doing predates alternative facts; it's called "willful ignorance".

Edited November 21, 20223 yr by heybruce

9 minutes ago, James105 said:

Sigh.  The left spread lies all the time, it's just that you happen to agree with them as you agree with the agenda/narrative.   The "assault on the capital" makes it sound like it was something quite major (something akin to the BLM riots and violence that was incited by the left), but all I can recall was seeing some chap with a viking hat meandering around a building.  

you need to work on your "recall" if all you saw was a Viking hat guy.....guess u didn't notice breaking windows, beating cops, bear spray, hang mike pence, and on and on all shown to you over and over in HD TV.....sigh.

25 minutes ago, James105 said:

Sigh.  The left spread lies all the time, it's just that you happen to agree with them as you agree with the agenda/narrative.   The "assault on the capital" makes it sound like it was something quite major (something akin to the BLM riots and violence that was incited by the left), but all I can recall was seeing some chap with a viking hat meandering around a building.  

948 charges in one event and you don't think it is major. Hopeless denialism at its most funny moment. 

insider.com/all-the-us-capitol-pro-trump-riot-arrests-charges-names-2021-1

22 minutes ago, pomchop said:

you need to work on your "recall" if all you saw was a Viking hat guy.....guess u didn't notice breaking windows, beating cops, bear spray, hang mike pence, and on and on all shown to you over and over in HD TV.....sigh.

Thank you, Liz Cheney, for reminding us of that terrible day...

9 minutes ago, blazes said:

Thank you, Liz Cheney, for reminding us of that terrible day...

A true American patriot will never need reminding of the tragic event. Putting on a Maga cap don’t make you a patriot. 

27 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Really?  You pay attention to that kind of nonsense?  I couldn't care less about Markle, royal families, celebrities, reality tv, and all else like that.  But then I'm not a Trump supporter either.

 

But to your point, if her truth is not based on verifiable facts then it is just BS.

Neither could I (care less about Markle bull$hite) nor am I a Trumpist, but I would assert (just an opinion) that about 98% of what passes for news and comment is just BS, and at worst, plain old lies.

I mean, when a politician (of any party, anywhere) starts yapping about X or Y, you'd have to be very dumb not to be able to "read his lips" and see how  much he actually says is  (not) based upon some Platonic "Truth" that exists, somewhere, out there in the ether.....

Lying does not make a  politician evil....it's just that there are agendas more important than him or her that must be served.  And of course all politicians are "perfect" and "stable" (until they're not).

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Hate speech isn't about hating specific individuals for cause.

 

Examples.

 

I hate Donald Trump for all his socially destructive actions.

 

Not hate speech

 

White people are all devils. 

 

Hate speech.

 

Ye:

 

I hate my manager Schmeke Pickleberg because he ripped me off.

 

Not hate speech. 

 

I'm gonna do death con 3 on the Jews.

 

Hate speech. 

 

Got it now?

That doesnt make sense. Hating a person is worse than vague comments about a certain group. If I say Thais are bad at driving does that mean I hate Thais? No. It's just a comment on averages.

 

If Trump said that all the haters would play the race card.