COVID surge just a “new wave” which will gradually fade after the New Year

[anrcaccount]

21 minutes ago, swm59nj said:

    It’s amazing how ignorant and uncaring people can be.  That you test positive.  Have symptoms. And you go in public not wearing a mask.  Or have one under your chin. 

I'm far from a mask advocate but can see the wisdom of wearing one in this situation.

 

The other point though is, why'd you go to the hospital at all?

 

There's really no need, and that probably goes for most of those mask less people you saw too.

 

Isolate and basic painkillers is all that's needed for the the vast majority of those who get Covid. 

[hotchilli]

14 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Public Health Permanent Secretary Dr. Opart Karnkawinpong said today (Friday) that the increase in infections will gradually subside after the New Year and most of the cases are not serious and do not require hospitalisation.

They could have said that two years ago and saved a lot of misery

[hotchilli]

3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

I think it depends on the community. I am in Bangkok at the moment, and it appears to be at least 99% of Thais, and I would guess 15% of foreigners, who are masked up outside. In Hua Hin, around 90% of Thais, and 5% of foreigners. 

 

Just returned from the US. 40% of foreigners not wearing masks in the airports. 2% of Asians. Within the US, mask use is down to around 5%, and the numbers continue to fall. 

Nakhon pathom west of Bangkok... 99.9% of Thais wearing masks outside

strangely though go into a Lotus lek, CJ-store,7-11 or convenience store of that nature the staff do not wear masks anymore..

[Harveyboy]

4 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

There is not much of a wave. I have a friend who is a surgical nurse at a major hospital, and she told us they are barely seeing any new cases, and the fatality rate at this time is extremely low, from covid. Much ado, about nothing. 

 

Each new variant is getting weaker and weaker. When are people going to let the panic go? Most of the  brave souls I see outdoors without masks on, are the sensible foreigners. 99% of Thais are still all masked up outdoors. 

yes I find it totally stupid ...no temperature machine's..no distancing..no hand washing ..no people walking about cleaning surfaces ..But the Controlled still wear masks on motorbikes 

went a buffet last week all sitting within feet of each other eating and of course no masks  then the go to get food a few metres away Put on masks ..stupidity 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[spidermike007]

3 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Not often we hear of the Pattaya Expat crowd being referred to as 'more sensible'. My memory of the remnants during the height of the pandemic and when bars were closed is of them being mostly particularly stupid! God forbid Thais start learning off them, if they need to!

You are lumping in all expats who live in the greater Pattaya, Chonburi area. Lots are family men, decent folks who have little interest in the sex scene there. Pattaya is a large city. It is not just walking street and the bars. 

 

And Thais have alot to learn from us. Just as we do from them. It works both ways. 

[spidermike007]

4 minutes ago, Harveyboy said:

yes I find it totally stupid ...no temperature machine's..no distancing..no hand washing ..no people walking about cleaning surfaces ..But the Controlled still wear masks on motorbikes 

went a buffet last week all sitting within feet of each other eating and of course no masks  then the go to get food a few metres away Put on masks ..stupidity 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Correct. It has gotten way past the point of reason, intellect, curiosity, information, science and facts. 

[ozimoron]

4 hours ago, anrcaccount said:

It's bad enough that the absurdity of mass mask wearing persists in adults in Thailand (and this is now one of the few places in the world where it does) , but what's even worse is that children are masked.

 

They aren't doing it voluntarily, or for any good epidemiological reason. They are doing it because of their parents disproportionate fear of covid. 

 

Masking kids is stunting their communication and development, doing them psychological harm. It needs to end. 

This lives rent free in your head, sorry. It has to count as spreading misinformation. Prove it or stop trolling.

 

Yesterday I was at Bangkok Hospital. There was young girl there with her teacher in the waiting room. Both were wearing a special school uniform which looked like a scouts uniform. Everybody was wearing masks except a couple of farang. In your book he's perpetrating child abuse.

[Mickeymaus]

You will know when the time to wear a mask is over when you are no longer allowed to enter a bank with it.

[NoshowJones]

4 minutes ago, Mickeymaus said:

You will know when the time to wear a mask is over when you are no longer allowed to enter a bank with it.

Then it must be over, I have not been required to wear a mask in any bank for a few months now.

[KannikaP]

6 hours ago, ozimoron said:

Your 99% figure is observably wrong. It is true that most motorcycle riders are wearing masks these days but that has nothing to do with covid.

 

I have a feeling that many Thai schools require their kids to wear masks in public while in school uniform, including outdoors.

How will the wearing of school uniform affect Covid, please?

[KannikaP]

11 minutes ago, Mickeymaus said:

You will know when the time to wear a mask is over when you are no longer allowed to enter a bank with it.

Surely you mean 'When you are ALLOWED to enter a bank WITHOUT one'

Or did I not get the joke?

[Mickeymaus]

14 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

Surely you mean 'When you are ALLOWED to enter a bank WITHOUT one'

Or did I not get the joke?

Before you were not allowed to enter banks with a mask or a helmet. 

 

[jacko45k]

4 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Pattaya is a large city.

Far from it actually.....

[Harveyboy]

2 hours ago, NoshowJones said:

Then it must be over, I have not been required to wear a mask in any bank for a few months now.

me neither same supermarket..and of course the 7/11 were strict as hell now walk in without one..must be over eh

[spidermike007]

2 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Far from it actually.....

It is 11th in Thailand on population size. And the city covers an enormous area. And like many other cities, the surrounding areas that expats live in, stretch out throughout the province. 

[Lorry]

15 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Thais have alot to learn from us

Sure, from the farangs in Pattaya.

[jacko45k]

13 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

It is 11th in Thailand on population size. And the city covers an enormous area. And like many other cities, the surrounding areas that expats live in, stretch out throughout the province. 

There is a boundary called Pattaya City that is the reality. The darkside is not Pattaya. Thailand is a one City country like many in this part of the world....I am 9km from Klang/Sukhumvit junction and that is NOT Pattaya. 

[Lucky Bones]

53 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

There is a boundary called Pattaya City that is the reality. The darkside is not Pattaya. Thailand is a one City country like many in this part of the world....I am 9km from Klang/Sukhumvit junction and that is NOT Pattaya. 

Jacko, the Darkside is not Pattaya?

Really?

Sorry. My bad for thinking otherwise.

I guess one of Sukhum Road, the pesky railway line, 3rd or 2nd Road or maybe Soi Boukhao is the boundary?

So tell me.....where do i tell Postman Pat I live?????????

[Gknrd]

On 11/25/2022 at 7:59 PM, Letseng said:

The more tourists, the more new variant infections they will get. How are infections supposed to go down after New year with foreign and local tourism travel over Xmas and New Year? Especially, tourists who don't consider it necessary to wear a mask.

I have a different opinion. I have been vaccinated and boosted. I wore the masks and washed my hands and was very careful and got Covid twice.. Each time being less severe.  I stopped wearing a mask as soon as I could and have had no problems since.  Same with a few friends in the US. 

China on the other hand does not have a vaccine and for the anti vaccine guys and gals that is what the world would look like without vaccines.

[Lucky Bones]

On 11/26/2022 at 6:39 AM, spidermike007 said:

I think it depends on the community. I am in Bangkok at the moment, and it appears to be at least 99% of Thais, and I would guess 15% of foreigners, who are masked up outside. In Hua Hin, around 90% of Thais, and 5% of foreigners. 

 

Just returned from the US. 40% of foreigners not wearing masks in the airports. 2% of Asians. Within the US, mask use is down to around 5%, and the numbers continue to fall. 

Agreed Spidy.

Anyone who takes the big blue bus from Pattaya to Ekkamai will see at least 99.9% of Thais masked up once hitting the outskirts of Bkk.

Granted to another poster, it may be a work and fear of sickness thing.????????

[jacko45k]

3 minutes ago, Lucky Bones said:

So tell me.....where do i tell Postman Pat I live?

Does it say 'Pattaya' on your address...? Mine doesn't. 

Mind you, Google Maps seems to have created  a boundary further afield than I would have thought. I am old school, crossing 3rd Rd used to mean heading out of town. 

[internationalism]

That dr did not explain why he thinks wave would subside after the new year, and reason why it appeared now. 
From earlier articles they contribute it to holiday time, winter in thailand is when people travel more for pleasure due to lower temperatures. They stay at hotels, socialise in restaurants, bars, tourist attractions. 

In the past it coincided with tourist season from abroad, but looks that is not the case now. But still a risk of some new strain and wave developing with some delay of 1-2 months, so around January. 
 

Likely small covid waves will come every half year or so and that would be time for boosters. Possibly some masking in selected areas of out brakes, at province governors rights to impose them. 
 

I think it would be customary in thailand for many years to wear mask at hospitals, pharmacies and public transport with closed windows. 
Thermometers were useless, but alcohol disinfectants and some forms of social distancing are good measures to stop spread of different germs. They should be maintained. 
There are still thermo cameras with large display screens at entrance to some supermarkets, more as a deterrent for seriously sick to enter and secondary as a security measure, reminding potential thieves that their face was recorded at close distance. 
 

[Lucky Bones]

1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

Does it say 'Pattaya' on your address...? Mine doesn't. 

Mind you, Google Maps seems to have created  a boundary further afield than I would have thought. I am old school, crossing 3rd Rd used to mean heading out of town. 

Fair call.

I have a box @ Soi Post or e-mails so zip mail comes to the house.

Checked my diary and apparently the house is in Nongprue, Banglamung amphur!

Thank heavens for that. For 10 years I have believed I was a Pattaya sexpat.????????

 

[jacko45k]

2 hours ago, Lucky Bones said:

Fair call.

I have a box @ Soi Post or e-mails so zip mail comes to the house.

Checked my diary and apparently the house is in Nongprue, Banglamung amphur!

Thank heavens for that. For 10 years I have believed I was a Pattaya sexpat.????????

 

I was also thinking back to when I moved here... some years ago. I rented a small house on a small street off soi Siam Country Club Rd, a maximum of 200m beyond the railway line. We thought of ourselves as living out of Pattaya, as did neighbours. Perhaps there has been a land grab since!

[spidermike007]

4 hours ago, Lucky Bones said:

Agreed Spidy.

Anyone who takes the big blue bus from Pattaya to Ekkamai will see at least 99.9% of Thais masked up once hitting the outskirts of Bkk.

Granted to another poster, it may be a work and fear of sickness thing.????????

They rarely wore masks before covid. So, I think it is a super paranoia and fear, instilled very successfully by the goons in charge. 

 

Time to let it go. This is NOT the zombie apocalypse. 

[spidermike007]

5 hours ago, jacko45k said:

There is a boundary called Pattaya City that is the reality. The darkside is not Pattaya. Thailand is a one City country like many in this part of the world....I am 9km from Klang/Sukhumvit junction and that is NOT Pattaya. 

When someone asks you where you live, do you ever say within the Pattaya area? 

[Lucky Bones]

14 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

When someone asks you where you live, do you ever say within the Pattaya area? 

I just say Chonburi.

It saves the uneducated, know-all sideways looks.????????

[jacko45k]

15 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

They rarely wore masks before covid. So, I think it is a super paranoia and fear, instilled very successfully by the goons in charge. 

 

Time to let it go. This is NOT the zombie apocalypse. 

Time to let them do as they wish without foreigners who arrogantly think they know better harping on.

[jacko45k]

21 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

When someone asks you where you live, do you ever say within the Pattaya area? 

No, because I don't. 

[Lorry]

3 hours ago, internationalism said:

In the past it coincided with tourist season from abroad, but looks that is not the case now.

It coincided very well with an incredible surge of tourism, since end of October. 

Flights from Europe are fully booked. Airports at departure and arrival are packed. Airlines and passengers don't care about masks or disinfectants anymore. 

Difficult to find free rooms in Pattaya and Bangkok, at this time of the year this is very unusual. Tourists running around,  maskless of course,  in Bangkok everywhere. Lots of unmasked farang on the BTS. Many young American couples in my neighborhood. 

 

Europe and US have a death rate of about 2 per milion dying from covid every day. Europeans and Americans,  and their governments,  think this is just fine. Hundreds of dead per day is called "living with covid".

 

Thailand has much lower daily death rates, tourism will level this out.