Kwasaki Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 11 minutes ago, ozimoron said: The straw clutching going on here is pathetic. I think it's more like ignorance and the lack of understanding of how to deal with an 83 year old lady not in touch with all the nonsense going on and going around, and getting in the face, R groups. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Kwasaki said: I think it's more like ignorance and the lack of understanding of how to deal with an 83 year old lady not in touch with all the nonsense going on and going around, and getting in the face, R groups. I don't agree. Her line of questioning was lucid and to the point. Her responses were sharp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 14 minutes ago, ozimoron said: The question was asked out of the blue. Your emphasis on the tone is a deflection. No it's not she wind the old dear up with her ostructive answers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AnnaBanana Posted December 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 2, 2022 On 12/1/2022 at 10:01 AM, JingerBen said: Tempest in a teapot. That's exactly what it is. This whole incident has a contrived and exaggerated air about it. Even allowing for the fragile egos and easily hurt feelings of the Global Majority it was a lowering of the bar on what most people - who aren't pushing an agenda - would consider to be genuine insult. 3 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 1 minute ago, AnnaBanana said: That's exactly what it is. This whole incident has a contrived and exaggerated air about it. Even allowing for the fragile egos and easily hurt feelings of the Global Majority it was a lowering of the bar on what most people - who aren't pushing an agenda - would consider to be genuine insult. When did "Global Majority" become a thing? Much less a pejorative? Between this and wokeness being a religion I'm smelling crazy in the air today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 15 minutes ago, ozimoron said: I don't agree. Her line of questioning was lucid and to the point. Her responses were sharp. Disagree, from start the black women was invasive it was obvious what the old lady was wanted to know. For example if I'm somewhere in Thailand and someone asks me where I'm from, to answer Muang Kao is invasive and rude i know exactly what they want to know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Just now, Kwasaki said: Disagree, from start the black women was invasive it was obvious what the old lady was wanted to know. For example if I'm somewhere in Thailand and someone asks me where I'm from, to answer Muang Kao is invasive and rude i know exactly what they want to know. Prince William's spokesman said it was racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JingerBen Posted December 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 2, 2022 8 minutes ago, AnnaBanana said: That's exactly what it is. This whole incident has a contrived and exaggerated air about it. Even allowing for the fragile egos and easily hurt feelings of the Global Majority it was a lowering of the bar on what most people - who aren't pushing an agenda - would consider to be genuine insult. Quite so. This overreaction probably has more to do with supporting the contentions of racism within the Royal Family. It isn't the first time her organization has done it. 2 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 7 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Prince William's spokesman said it was racist. Yes, they were all a bit hasty. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Just now, nauseus said: Yes, they were all a bit hasty. So we'll wait for the retraction and apology to Hussey from Prince William? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 9 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Prince William's spokesman said it was racist. Stop lying , he didn't say that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Just now, Mac Mickmanus said: Stop lying , he didn't say that Yes he did. The spokesman didn't do a Trump and wander off script. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 6 minutes ago, ozimoron said: So we'll wait for the retraction and apology to Hussey from Prince William? It was a spokesperson : A spokesperson for Prince William said "racism has no place in our society". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Just now, nauseus said: It was a spokesperson : A spokesperson for Prince William said "racism has no place in our society". A spokesperson speaks for whom he represents. His comments have not been refuted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Yes he did. The spokesman didn't do a Trump and wander off script. You can not tell the difference between a statement and an accusation . You take one word out the statement and add all the other words to suit you ' *The statement has racism written so I will add all the other words myself* 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said: You can not tell the difference between a statement and an accusation . You take one word out the statement and add all the other words to suit you ' *The statement has racism written so I will add all the other words myself* You mean I mistakenly inferred racism to mean racist? The statement about about Hussey's line of questioning. Move on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, nauseus said: It was a spokesperson : A spokesperson for Prince William said "racism has no place in our society". How is that sentence different to *Susan Hussey is a racist* ? Don't they say the same thing ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, nauseus said: It was a spokesperson : A spokesperson for Prince William said "racism has no place in our society". The 3 R's as I knew has been hi-jacked as well these days. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post herfiehandbag Posted December 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 2, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, ozimoron said: After decades of protected racism, the public are no linger willing to put up with it. Part of the inevitable fall out following the Queen's death. Charles will never be a popular monarch. It is only my opinion, although I suspect that it is one quite widely held, I think that after decades of this sort of manufactured "racial outrage" the public are no longer willing to put up with it. They can see it for the nonsense which it is. Absolutely come down hard on verbal abuse, offensive nicknames, and violent attacks. Discrimination is entirely wrong and must be righted. But this sort of business is entirely manufactured. It has absolutely nothing to do with the death of Queen Elizabeth II, or the popularity or otherwise of King Charles III. This woman, born in Britain, presented herself at a public event using an assumed "African" name, dressed in a costume and with a hairstyle which was surely intended to raise comment. Then professes herself to be upset when it did provoke comment, in passing, by what was, without being rude, an entirely inconsequential elderly person who in no way represents the Royal Family. To describe it as "protected racism" is just silly. It, and the media interest it was designed to provoke is so clearly manufactured, transparently so. Elements within the BBC, who have practically wet their pants at this opportunity to bring down the palace a peg or two, are running the story alongside and in parallel with the Prince and Princess of Wales' visit to the USA. Their intent is very clear. I do wonder whether it has anything to do with the decision a year or so ago to give the opportunity to broadcast the Carol Concert, which was very much the then Duchess of Cambridge's project to a rival broadcaster (ITV?). I happen to have some experience, and idea, of how the " movers and shakers" within the BBC operate! For them revenge is a dish served cold - in Islington media circles it would be defined of course as Gazpachio served with Guacamole! Edited December 2, 2022 by herfiehandbag 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 47 minutes ago, ozimoron said: A spokesperson speaks for whom he represents. His comments have not been refuted. Did I say different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 46 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: How is that sentence different to *Susan Hussey is a racist* ? Don't they say the same thing ? I just input the statement made on behalf of Prince William. You interpret that yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post proton Posted December 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 2, 2022 18 hours ago, Bluespunk said: Nonsense. hussey was told the charity worker was British and yet she continued with a racist line of questioning. She could have been an African immigrant who got a Brit passport, know plenty who have and they still dress like Africans so the question is totally innocent. The women is just another race baiter looking for offence. Nothing racist at all asking where she came from. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeymike100 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 25 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said: It is only my opinion, although I suspect that it is one quite widely held, I think that after decades of this sort of manufactured "racial outrage" the public are no longer willing to put up with it. They can see it for the nonsense which it is. Absolutely come down hard on verbal abuse, offensive nicknames, and violent attacks. Discrimination is entirely wrong and must be righted. But this sort of business is entirely manufactured. It has absolutely nothing to do with the death of Queen Elizabeth II, or the popularity or otherwise of King Charles III. This woman, born in Britain, presented herself at a public event using an assumed "African" name, dressed in a costume and with a hairstyle which was surely intended to raise comment. Then professes herself to be upset when it did provoke comment, in passing, by what was, without being rude, an entirely inconsequential elderly person who in no way represents the Royal Family. To describe it as "protected racism" is just silly. It, and the media interest it was designed to provoke is so clearly manufactured, transparently so. Elements within the BBC, who have practically wet their pants at this opportunity to bring down the palace a peg or two, are running the story alongside and in parallel with the Prince and Princess of Wales' visit to the USA. Their intent is very clear. I do wonder whether it has anything to do with the decision a year or so ago to give the opportunity to broadcast the Carol Concert, which was very much the then Duchess of Cambridge's project to a rival broadcaster (ITV?). I happen to have some experience, and idea, of how the " movers and shakers" within the BBC operate! For them revenge is a dish served cold - in Islington media circles it would be defined of course as Gazpachio served with Guacamole! Agreed, and very eloquently put! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bluespunk Posted December 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 2, 2022 31 minutes ago, proton said: She could have been an African immigrant who got a Brit passport, know plenty who have and they still dress like Africans so the question is totally innocent. The women is just another race baiter looking for offence. Nothing racist at all asking where she came from. All sides involved have admitted it was racist behaviour. Once the charity worker stated she was British that was the end of it. To say “where do you really come from?” is racism in action. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 9 minutes ago, Bluespunk said: All sides involved have admitted it was racist behaviour. Once the charity worker stated she was British that was the end of it. To say “where do you really come from?” is racism in action. Yes quite right that's how bad it's got for 83year old lady, to the firing quad with her immediately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MisterTee Posted December 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 2, 2022 12 minutes ago, Bluespunk said: All sides involved have admitted it was racist behaviour. Once the charity worker stated she was British that was the end of it. To say “where do you really come from?” is racism in action. Hogwash. 1 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Just now, MisterTee said: Hogwash. Why is she gone? Palace doesn't have the wherewithal to stand up to the woke press I suppose? The speed of her ouster reflects the palace understanding it has a problem and trying to get ahead of it, knowing the public won't cut Charles and William the same slack as they did for the Queen and Philip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cmsally Posted December 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 2, 2022 19 minutes ago, Bluespunk said: All sides involved have admitted it was racist behaviour. Once the charity worker stated she was British that was the end of it. To say “where do you really come from?” is racism in action. It's bonkers . When I tell Thais that I am Thai , they immediately ask me where I really come from. Should I be on the telly demanding people get fired and telling people how I feel abused. It's ridiculous. 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ozimoron Posted December 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 2, 2022 Just now, cmsally said: It's bonkers . When I tell Thais that I am Thai , they immediately ask me where I really come from. Should I be on the telly demanding people get fired and telling people how I feel abused. It's ridiculous. Ignoring that Ngozi was at an official function in her official capacity. The wilful blindness around here is astonishing. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thailand Posted December 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 2, 2022 On 12/1/2022 at 8:58 AM, JonnyF said: She worded the question poorly by the sounds of it. Anyone with a bit of common sense knows what she meant. Vilifying an 83 year old woman for not being fluent in Woke is really low behaviour, but perfectly in keeping with the proponents of cancel culture and the perpetually offended. Still, it could earn Ms. Fulani a spot on Harry's wife's next podcast series, assuming Spotify are stupid enough to keep it going. Quite possible that it was a fortuitous encounter for the woman who was called Marlene Headley before taking up an African name and adding dreadlocks and apparently had been attacking the RF for sometime. Looks African to me but not sure from where. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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