webfact Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Picture: Siam Rath Thai media Siam Rath had the all too familiar scene from the pandemic of medics in hazmat style suits carrying a coffin for a body in a ziplock bag. It was taken at the morgue of Maharat Hospital in Nakhon Ratchasima, NE Thailand, where six Covid infected patients died in 24 hours at the weekend. Assistant director Jet Bunyawongwiroj said cases were on the rise; there had been two fatalities a day prior to this. Picture: Siam Rath The young and the old are mostly affected and he urged people to get vaccinated. Most of those falling sick have not been vaxxed or who have only had a couple of shots and a long time since the last one. The latest victims were: A 54 year old man who'd had 2 shots An 84 year old man unvaccinated A 61 year old man unvaccinated An 89 year old woman unvaccinated An 83 year old woman unvaccinated A 43 year old man who'd had two shots of Sinopharm. Foundation rescue staff also spoke of the problems of cremation. Picture: Siam Rath While families are able to get their loved ones to lay them out for merit making purposes - something denied to them in the pandemic - they have to be collected and cremated elsewhere for health reasons. The story is a reminder about living with Covid, and a further reminder that the medical and rescue services continue to be at the front line in tackling the endemic stage of the disease, notes ASEAN NOW. -- © Copyright ASEAN NOW 2022-12-12 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. Monthly car subscription with first-class insurance, 24x7 assistance and more in one price - click here to find out more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post markclover Posted December 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2022 Hopefully we get a lockdown again. Working from home is pure bliss. 4 2 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Heng Posted December 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2022 Not an anti-vaxxer, but I think I'm going to stick with my 4 jabs over the past 2 years. No more for my kids either (2 jabs each). 9 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post djayz Posted December 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2022 10 minutes ago, markclover said: Hopefully we get a lockdown again. Working from home is pure bliss. As long as life is good for you. 8 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cmsally Posted December 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2022 Died "from Covid" or died "with Covid" . There is a big difference. 43 1 10 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post peter zwart Posted December 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2022 RIP to all. But vaccination wont give any guarantee. Especially now that it has become apparent that more vaccinated people die as a result of C than non-vaccinated people. 16 5 6 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post zzaa09 Posted December 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2022 1 minute ago, cmsally said: Died "from Covid" or died "with Covid" . There is a big difference. Or....died from something else and just happen to have acquired COVID/tested positive. Much more common scenario of the last 3 years when looking looking at the official numbers. 20 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Moonlover Posted December 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, peter zwart said: RIP to all. But vaccination wont give any guarantee. Especially now that it has become apparent that more vaccinated people die as a result of C than non-vaccinated people. Would you care to back up your statement with some hard evidence? The article says the opposite. 34 minutes ago, webfact said: The young and the old are mostly affected and he urged people to get vaccinated. Most of those falling sick have not been vaxxed or who have only had a couple of shots and a long time since the last one. The latest victims were: A 54 year old man who'd had 2 shots An 84 year old man unvaccinated A 61 year old man unvaccinated An 89 year old woman unvaccinated An 83 year old woman unvaccinated A 43 year old man who'd had two shots of Sinopharm. 20 1 4 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bulmercke Posted December 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2022 Funny how the officially released figures detail "vaccinated" or "unvaccinated". If you've died of covid then you've died of covid and your vaccination status shouldn't have anything to do with it unless you're trying to prove a point. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bagwain Posted December 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2022 13 minutes ago, bulmercke said: Funny how the officially released figures detail "vaccinated" or "unvaccinated". If you've died of covid then you've died of covid and your vaccination status shouldn't have anything to do with it unless you're trying to prove a point. You don't die of covid. You die with it. End of story! 7 2 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post zzaa09 Posted December 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2022 36 minutes ago, bulmercke said: Funny how the officially released figures detail "vaccinated" or "unvaccinated". If you've died of covid then you've died of covid and your vaccination status shouldn't have anything to do with it unless you're trying to prove a point. Anyone suspicious as of yet? Challenging, questioning or critical thought regarding the established and repeated narrative falls on deaf ears. 10 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rbkk Posted December 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2022 (edited) Is Thailand ever going to get the latest version of vaccines that potentially have a better success rate than the original formulae? Edited December 12, 2022 by rbkk ? 1 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ikke1959 Posted December 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2022 1 hour ago, webfact said: A 54 year old man who'd had 2 shots An 84 year old man unvaccinated A 61 year old man unvaccinated An 89 year old woman unvaccinated An 83 year old woman unvaccinated A 43 year old man who'd had two shots of Sinopharm. With all respect, but people older than 80 CAN die , for them who don't know. And if they are no vaccinated, there is a reason for, or it is ignority, because in 2 years time there was chance enough to get vaccinated. Probably all ghe deceased had underlying health problems, but that is not mentioned.. More information should be provided, but nothing to panic about now. 7 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rattlesnake Posted December 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2022 The latest victims were: A 54 year old man who'd had 2 shots An 84 year old man unvaccinated A 61 year old man unvaccinated An 89 year old woman unvaccinated An 83 year old woman unvaccinated A 43 year old man who'd had two shots of Sinopharm. So the unvaccinated victims are well over 80, except one who is 61. The double-jabbed victims are respectively 54 and 43. These are not very pro-jab statistics! "Get vaccinated!" orders the author of the article. My answer: <deleted> off! 17 5 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FarAway Posted December 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2022 It is quite interesting that just the old unvaccinated people "die of COVID". While the people who are dying young are vaccinated. I mean, you could almost argue that the old unvaccinated people would have died anyway and just were positively tested, and that the young people died suspiciously early while being vaccinated. Hmmmm... But as I said exactly that now almost 3 years ago already, when everyone was pooping their pants and attacked me verbally for just stating my assumptions and I do not want to look like a know-it-all, I will just.. yeah.. what? I don't know, but please do not call me conspiracy theorist ???? ???? 3 1 3 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jacko45k Posted December 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2022 1 hour ago, cmsally said: Died "from Covid" or died "with Covid" . There is a big difference. Not to them....... The assistant director thinks the link is sufficient to warrant him recommending people get vaccinated. I understand there can be comorbidities... Like AIDs the actual reason cited for death may rest elsewhere.... but Covid is involved. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jacko45k Posted December 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, FarAway said: I mean, you could almost argue that the old unvaccinated people would have died anyway and just were positively tested, and that the young people died suspiciously early while being vaccinated. Hmmmm... Brilliant, Einstein at work..... 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Phoenix Rising Posted December 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Bagwain said: You don't die of covid. You die with it. End of story! Yes, just like you don't die of a bullet to the head, you die with it. End of story! 6 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted December 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, FarAway said: It is quite interesting that just the old unvaccinated people "die of COVID". While the people who are dying young are vaccinated. I mean, you could almost argue that the old unvaccinated people would have died anyway and just were positively tested, and that the young people died suspiciously early while being vaccinated. Hmmmm... But as I said exactly that now almost 3 years ago already, when everyone was pooping their pants and attacked me verbally for just stating my assumptions and I do not want to look like a know-it-all, I will just.. yeah.. what? I don't know, but please do not call me conspiracy theorist ???? ???? Yet you droll on about the vaccines being possibly tied to the young deaths...suspiciosly. Give it a rest, and by the way Sinopharm is not an MRNA vaccine which the antivaxxers are going on about. Sinopharm is an inactivated Virus type of vaccine which has been in use for over 100 years. Inactivated vaccines were first developed in the late 1800s and early 1900s for cholera, plague, and typhoid.[2] Today, inactivated vaccines exist for many pathogens, including influenza, polio (IPV), rabies, hepatitis A and pertussis. Yet we still have Influenza, rabies, Hepatitis A and so on. A vaccine is just that a vaccine which may give ones body a leg up or maybe not. Vaccines do not keep virus's from propagating.....try again. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inactivated_vaccine Because inactivated pathogens tend to produce a weaker response by the immune system than live pathogens, immunologic adjuvants and multiple "booster" injections may be required in some vaccines to provide an effective immune response against the pathogen.[1][4][5] Attenuated vaccines are often preferable for generally healthy people because a single dose is often safe and very effective. However, some people cannot take attenuated vaccines because the pathogen poses too much risk for them (for example, elderly people or people with immunodeficiency). For those patients, an inactivated vaccine can provide protection. 10 1 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted December 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2022 Just now, Phulublub said: Have to love statistics... Take a population of 100 where 90 are vaccinated and 10 are not. Five die...four who were vaccinated and (just) one who was not. More people who were vaccinanted than were not vaccinated died. Headline: 400% more likely to die if vaccinated!!!!! PH It is all in how the antivaxxers want to spin the story to suit the agenda..... 6 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FarAway Posted December 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2022 1 minute ago, ThailandRyan said: Yet you droll on about the vaccines being possibly tied to the young deaths...suspiciosly. Give it a rest, and by the way Sinopharm is not an MRNA vaccine which the antivaxxers are going on about. Sinopharm is an inactivated Virus type of vaccine which has been in use for over 100 years. Inactivated vaccines were first developed in the late 1800s and early 1900s for cholera, plague, and typhoid.[2] Today, inactivated vaccines exist for many pathogens, including influenza, polio (IPV), rabies, hepatitis A and pertussis. Yet we still have Influenza, rabies, Hepatitis A and so on. A vaccine is just that a vaccine which may give ones body a leg up or maybe not. Vaccines do not keep virus's from propagating.....try again. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inactivated_vaccine Because inactivated pathogens tend to produce a weaker response by the immune system than live pathogens, immunologic adjuvants and multiple "booster" injections may be required in some vaccines to provide an effective immune response against the pathogen.[1][4][5] Attenuated vaccines are often preferable for generally healthy people because a single dose is often safe and very effective. However, some people cannot take attenuated vaccines because the pathogen poses too much risk for them (for example, elderly people or people with immunodeficiency). For those patients, an inactivated vaccine can provide protection. Blablabla. Typical NPC-talk. I know several people who got more or less severely sick just from the "normal" vaccines Sinovac and Sinopharm in Thailand. One died. I would love to link to a group of Spanish scientists that found a very interesting undeclared ingredient in ALL of the "COVID-vaccines". No matter which one, Pfizer, Moderna, Sinovac, Sinopharm, Sputnik. All the same undeclared ingredient. But as it will be deleted anyway because it will be marked as "unreliable source", so I will not do it. If you would not blindly trust authorities, you could get these information as well. There are literally thousands of independent doctors and scientists talking about it nowadays. But yeah, do what you want, get a few more shots for you and your kids, the government is your best friend ???????? I really do not bother anymore to warn people, but me personally I do not believe one word of the mouth of our ruling class, way since before COVID already. They are all professional liars, it is their job, and their only goal is not to help us peasants but to gain more control and influence. 6 1 2 8 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted December 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2022 There are dozens of variables, few of which are discussed here. We just don't know the facts. I will stick with the narrative that cases continue to fall, and covid is simply not a worry anymore. 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted December 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2022 14 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: Yet you droll on about the vaccines being possibly tied to the young deaths...suspiciosly. Give it a rest, and by the way Sinopharm is not an MRNA vaccine which the antivaxxers are going on about. Sinopharm is an inactivated Virus type of vaccine which has been in use for over 100 years. Inactivated vaccines were first developed in the late 1800s and early 1900s for cholera, plague, and typhoid.[2] Today, inactivated vaccines exist for many pathogens, including influenza, polio (IPV), rabies, hepatitis A and pertussis. Yet we still have Influenza, rabies, Hepatitis A and so on. A vaccine is just that a vaccine which may give ones body a leg up or maybe not. Vaccines do not keep virus's from propagating.....try again. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inactivated_vaccine Because inactivated pathogens tend to produce a weaker response by the immune system than live pathogens, immunologic adjuvants and multiple "booster" injections may be required in some vaccines to provide an effective immune response against the pathogen.[1][4][5] Attenuated vaccines are often preferable for generally healthy people because a single dose is often safe and very effective. However, some people cannot take attenuated vaccines because the pathogen poses too much risk for them (for example, elderly people or people with immunodeficiency). For those patients, an inactivated vaccine can provide protection. Good info and let us never forget the goons here chose the vaccine with the lowest efficacy of any vaccine available. 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted December 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2022 1 minute ago, FarAway said: Blablabla. Typical NPC-talk. I know several people who got more or less severely sick just from the "normal" vaccines Sinovac and Sinopharm in Thailand. One died. I would love to link to a group of Spanish scientists that found a very interesting undeclared ingredient in ALL of the "COVID-vaccines". No matter which one, Pfizer, Moderna, Sinovac, Sinopharm, Sputnik. All the same undeclared ingredient. But as it will be deleted anyway because it will be marked as "unreliable source", so I will not do it. If you would not blindly trust authorities, you could get these information as well. There are literally thousands of independent doctors and scientists talking about it nowadays. But yeah, do what you want, get a few more shots for you and your kids, the government is your best friend ???????? I really do not bother anymore to warn people, but me personally I do not believe one word of the mouth of our ruling class, way since before COVID already. They are all professional liars, it is their job, and their only goal is not to help us peasants but to gain more control and influence. Do some more research, and stay away from the theorists you seem to follow as well as MSM, you are like a certain ex-presidents follower who believes what they here from those that also have an agenda. learn about vaccine history going back to the 1800's and you might be surprised. X-ray's can also kill you and make you celibate but I am sure you still get an x-ray when needed. I guess you eat your own organically grown fruits and vegetables as well as your own farm raised meats so that your sure of what chemicals, pesticides and other types of vaccines/chemicals had been inspected and checked. At the end of the day everyone is susceptible to some kind of reaction to anything eaten, taken, or injected (bee sting) etc.....yet you want to rail on about the vaccines....toodles. 4 1 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokReady Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 35 minutes ago, rattlesnake said: These are not very pro-jab statistics! Without context they are meaningless. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sharp Posted December 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2022 As stated look at the ages no doubt Co morbidity is in play for 80+ age group and 3 of the unvaccinated are over the national age of normal death age. Biased reporting in my opinion 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BangkokReady Posted December 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2022 27 minutes ago, jacko45k said: Like AIDs the actual reason cited for death may rest elsewhere Do you mean where with AIDs the person dies from something else but it is the disease that weakens the immune system and causes the death? Because "death with covid" does not mean that the patient died from something else that they became vulnerable to due to covid. It's more that they died of something and they also happened to test positive for covid, as I understand it. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokReady Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 1 hour ago, zzaa09 said: 2 hours ago, cmsally said: Died "from Covid" or died "with Covid" . There is a big difference. Or....died from something else and just happen to have acquired COVID/tested positive. That is what "died with covid is". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Bones Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 I thought everyone had been vaxed by now? With the world in panic mode, I had my 2 jabs of so called "credible" vax so I could hopefully walk the streets fairly safely without some clown in a hazmat harassing me. Here we go again Ridiculous.???????? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phulublub Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 16 minutes ago, spidermike007 said: Good info and let us never forget the goons here chose the vaccine with the lowest efficacy of any vaccine available. Would that be the same Goons who only gave the vaccines they were initially able to source to the local population, but as soon as the Western vaccines were available, foreigners were pretty much put at the front of the queue? (And why was it a huge proportion of the World was so low on vaccine availability? Oh yes - so that the developed west could pick and choose and have multiple vaccines available for their own populations.) PH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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