17 hours ago, save the frogs said:

one thing the WEF is planning to combat environmental degradation is "15 minute cities", where everything is within walking or biking distance.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2022/03/15-minute-city-stickiness/

 

Do you really think that this is about combatting environmental degradation? It's about forcing us all into small spaces in a few cities - to make it easier for them to control us. I hope there are not many people in the world who, like you, think this is a good idea.

4 minutes ago, BangkokHank said:

Do you really think that this is about combatting environmental degradation? It's about forcing us all into small spaces in a few cities - to make it easier for them to control us. I hope there are not many people in the world who, like you, think this is a good idea.

As somebody said, they don't care about the poor. Could you explain how people in cities are more controlled by big brother than in rural areas?

1 hour ago, BangkokHank said:

Do you really think that this is about combatting environmental degradation? It's about forcing us all into small spaces in a few cities - to make it easier for them to control us. I hope there are not many people in the world who, like you, think this is a good idea.

Nobody forcing anybody to anything. You can still enjoy wildlife many places around the world like the good old days, when also oeople was controlled by the govern authority, unless they lived where they could not be reached. 

15 hours ago, redwood1 said:

What's on the underside of the flat earth?

Its unknown...

 

And there is a moon to travel to,

The moon is self illuminating.....Its not physical..

 

 

Can the Firmament be breached?

The government sent nukes up to try and bust the firmament in 1962 (operation fishbowl) They failed...

 

 

With apologies to Napoleon XIV.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xRCbdFrSSc&ab_channel=NapoleonXIV-Topic

 

 They're coming to take you away,
Haha, they're coming to take you away,
Ho ho, hee hee, ha ha,
To the funny farm
Where Life is Beautiful all the time
And You'll be happy to see
Those Nice Young Men
In their Clean White Coats
And they're coming to take you AWAY.

 

Have a good New Year

1 hour ago, billd766 said:

With apologies to Napoleon XIV.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xRCbdFrSSc&ab_channel=NapoleonXIV-Topic

 

 They're coming to take you away,
Haha, they're coming to take you away,
Ho ho, hee hee, ha ha,
To the funny farm
Where Life is Beautiful all the time
And You'll be happy to see
Those Nice Young Men
In their Clean White Coats
And they're coming to take you AWAY.

 

Have a good New Year

look here and see if your still laughing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Fishbowl

 

Notice VERY  high altitude testing...

 

 

 

If the sun is reflecting off the moon and rotating around the earth how do the moon cycles stay absolutely perfect all month.?

 

Answer.....The moon is self illuminating....

Edited January 1, 20233 yr by redwood1

59 minutes ago, redwood1 said:

look here and see if your still laughing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Fishbowl

 

Notice VERY  high altitude testing...

 

 

 

If the sun is reflecting off the moon and rotating around the earth how do the moon cycles stay absolutely perfect all month.?

 

Answer.....The moon is self illuminating....

answer: They don't. There are neap tides and spring tides.

1 hour ago, redwood1 said:

look here and see if your still laughing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Fishbowl

 

Notice VERY  high altitude testing...

 

 

 

If the sun is reflecting off the moon and rotating around the earth how do the moon cycles stay absolutely perfect all month.?

 

Answer.....The moon is self illuminating....

If you stand by the shore and watch a ship set off to the horizon, you will start to lose sight of its sails as it goes over the horizon, till eventually it disappears from view altogether. Now send up a drone a few hundred feet in the air and it will be in view again. Why is that? Could it be the earth is a circle or what theory do you flat earthers have on this?

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

If you stand by the shore and watch a ship set off to the horizon, you will start to lose sight of its sails as it goes over the horizon, till eventually it disappears from view altogether. Now send up a drone a few hundred feet in the air and it will be in view again. Why is that? Could it be the earth is a circle or what theory do you flat earthers have on this?

I'm waiting for the first selfie on the edge.

11 hours ago, ozimoron said:

The history we were taught in school was that the convicts were all Irish.

To be sure, to be sure.

28 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

If you stand by the shore and watch a ship set off to the horizon, you will start to lose sight of its sails as it goes over the horizon, till eventually it disappears from view altogether. Now send up a drone a few hundred feet in the air and it will be in view again. Why is that? Could it be the earth is a circle or what theory do you flat earthers have on this?

You might want to see this...

 

 

Just now, redwood1 said:

You might want to see this...

When I went to school, I learned that when a ship disappears over the horizon, no telescope would see it.

12 minutes ago, redwood1 said:

You might want to see this...

 

 

Or you could read this:

https://www.newscientist.com/lastword/mg25433802-900-if-earth-were-flat-when-would-a-ship-disappear-from-sight/

https://crosstalk.cell.com/blog/seven-ways-to-prove-earth-is-round

Edited January 1, 20233 yr by Bkk Brian

13 full moons, including 4 supermoons and a blue moon, will shine in 2023

 

https://www.rawstory.com/13-full-moons-including-4-supermoons-and-a-blue-moon-will-shine-in-2023/

 

 

8 hours ago, BangkokHank said:

Do you really think that this is about combatting environmental degradation? It's about forcing us all into small spaces in a few cities - to make it easier for them to control us. I hope there are not many people in the world who, like you, think this is a good idea.

Yes, I think it is about combatting environmental degradation.

If you read the daily news more carefully, as opposed to just reading the sensationalist garbage, you will see a constant thread.

There are numerous articles encouraging people to shift to EVs, to drive less, to use public transport more, to work from home if possible to reduce emissions from driving, to simplify your life, to be happy with less, to buy less stuff, to only buy what you need.

 

Nobody seems to read these articles. People seem to be fixated on doom and gloom and sensationalism. Maybe people love drama?

 

Regarding control, it's not an end in itself. Nobody wants to control you just for the sake of controlling you. If there is some degree of control, its because the powers that be estimate that it's benefiting the collective. 

 

The one-child policy in China is an example of this. They have no interest in preventing people from having children just for a power kick. It doesn't mean that every decision they make is a good decision. But they're not controlling people for no apparent reason. 

 

Edited January 1, 20233 yr by save the frogs

2 hours ago, redwood1 said:

look here and see if your still laughing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Fishbowl

 

Notice VERY  high altitude testing...

 

 

 

If the sun is reflecting off the moon and rotating around the earth how do the moon cycles stay absolutely perfect all month.?

 

Answer.....The moon is self illuminating....

I looked and I am still laughing.

 

It was done 60 years ago when I was just 18 and I am still alive and kicking. Have you nothing newer than that?

8 hours ago, BangkokHank said:

Do you really think that this is about combatting environmental degradation? It's about forcing us all into small spaces in a few cities - to make it easier for them to control us. I hope there are not many people in the world who, like you, think this is a good idea.

It's not working. More and more people are working from home and moving out of the cities. NY is in a quandary and considering what to do with office blocks. They are considering converting them into apartments or low cost housing.

 

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/can-empty-manhattan-office-buildings-be-turned-into-apartments/3997044/

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

If you stand by the shore and watch a ship set off to the horizon, you will start to lose sight of its sails as it goes over the horizon, till eventually it disappears from view altogether. Now send up a drone a few hundred feet in the air and it will be in view again. Why is that? Could it be the earth is a circle or what theory do you flat earthers have on this?

People focus on the horizon.

 

How much do ships weigh? 200 tonnes? On a spinning ball earth, the ship would literally have to be upside down for a good portion of its trip across, say, the Atlantic ocean. So a 200 tonne ship sails across the ocean upside down? And is held down by what exactly? Gravity? And a helium balloon rises? 

 

1 minute ago, save the frogs said:

People focus on the horizon.

 

How much do ships weigh? 200 tonnes? On a spinning ball earth, the ship would literally have to be upside down for a good portion of its trip across, say, the Atlantic ocean. So a 200 tonne ship sails across the ocean upside down? And is held down by what exactly? Gravity? And a helium balloon rises? 

 

All ships in Australia sail upside down and they don't fall off.

1 minute ago, save the frogs said:

People focus on the horizon.

 

How much do ships weigh? 200 tonnes? On a spinning ball earth, the ship would literally have to be upside down for a good portion of its trip across, say, the Atlantic ocean. So a 200 tonne ship sails across the ocean upside down? And is held down by what exactly? Gravity? And a helium balloon rises? 

 

Gravity is quite powerful, think black holes

22 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Or you could read this:

https://www.newscientist.com/lastword/mg25433802-900-if-earth-were-flat-when-would-a-ship-disappear-from-sight/

https://crosstalk.cell.com/blog/seven-ways-to-prove-earth-is-round

Let me just cut to the chase here.....

 

I know of and have studied every flat earth argument and theory there is..

There are 100s of things that support a flat earth.....But many of the proofs cant be proven 100% ...The ship/ horizon we were just talking about is a example of this...

 

A single irrefutable proof is all that's really needed....

 

And one irrefutable proof is WATER....Yes good old fashion WATER....

 

Poor yourself a glass of water, and look at the water......

The water is perfectly flat...

Look at a bathtub, the water is perfectly flat..

Same with a swimming pool, pond, or lake......flat flat flat

And same with the oceans.....They are flat, just like any other body of water..

 

No models exist for water sticking to a ball.....None.....Zero.....Not even one....But trillions and trillions of examples exist of bodys of water being perfectly flat......

 

Water in a tea cup or a ocean is flat....Same same....

 

And if the ocean is flat the earth is flat.....

3 minutes ago, redwood1 said:

Let me just cut to the chase here.....

 

I know of and have studied every flat earth argument and theory there is..

There are 100s of things that support a flat earth.....But many of the proofs cant be proven 100% ...The ship/ horizon we were just talking about is a example of this...

 

A single irrefutable proof is all that's really needed....

 

And one irrefutable proof is WATER....Yes good old fashion WATER....

 

Poor yourself a glass of water, and look at the water......

The water is perfectly flat...

Look at a bathtub, the water is perfectly flat..

Same with a swimming pool, pond, or lake......flat flat flat

And same with the oceans.....They are flat, just like any other body of water..

 

No models exist for water sticking to a ball.....None.....Zero.....Not even one....But trillions and trillions of examples exist of bodys of water being perfectly flat......

 

Water in a tea cup or a ocean is flat....Same same....

 

And if the ocean is flat the earth is flat.....

When I went to school I learned that the water in a glass is not flat.

5 minutes ago, redwood1 said:

Let me just cut to the chase here.....

 

I know of and have studied every flat earth argument and theory there is..

There are 100s of things that support a flat earth.....But many of the proofs cant be proven 100% ...The ship/ horizon we were just talking about is a example of this...

 

A single irrefutable proof is all that's really needed....

 

And one irrefutable proof is WATER....Yes good old fashion WATER....

 

Poor yourself a glass of water, and look at the water......

The water is perfectly flat...

Look at a bathtub, the water is perfectly flat..

Same with a swimming pool, pond, or lake......flat flat flat

And same with the oceans.....They are flat, just like any other body of water..

 

No models exist for water sticking to a ball.....None.....Zero.....Not even one....But trillions and trillions of examples exist of bodys of water being perfectly flat......

 

Water in a tea cup or a ocean is flat....Same same....

 

And if the ocean is flat the earth is flat.....

Wrong, and Water is concave in a cylinder or a tub! How come? 

8 minutes ago, redwood1 said:

Let me just cut to the chase here.....

 

I know of and have studied every flat earth argument and theory there is..

There are 100s of things that support a flat earth.....But many of the proofs cant be proven 100% ...The ship/ horizon we were just talking about is a example of this...

 

A single irrefutable proof is all that's really needed....

 

And one irrefutable proof is WATER....Yes good old fashion WATER....

 

Poor yourself a glass of water, and look at the water......

The water is perfectly flat...

Look at a bathtub, the water is perfectly flat..

Same with a swimming pool, pond, or lake......flat flat flat

And same with the oceans.....They are flat, just like any other body of water..

 

No models exist for water sticking to a ball.....None.....Zero.....Not even one....But trillions and trillions of examples exist of bodys of water being perfectly flat......

 

Water in a tea cup or a ocean is flat....Same same....

 

And if the ocean is flat the earth is flat.....

The ocean water is not flat, its governed by gravity, that's why some parts of the world have higher coastal erosion that others.

 

I mystified, you reject all the evidence, when did you start to distrust basic science so much, at school?

 

Where do meteorites come from and their fragments that are found on earth?

Edited January 1, 20233 yr by Bkk Brian

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

The ocean water is not flat, its governed by gravity, that's why some parts of the world have higher coastal erosion that others.

 

I mystified, you reject all the evidence, when did you start to distrust basic science so much, at school?

And why do we have tide? 
 

The moon pulling the ocean! 6 hours up, one hour rest, 6 hours down, one hour rest, repeat

Edited January 1, 20233 yr by Hummin

Just now, Hummin said:

And why do we have tide? 
 

The moon pulling the ocean!

Exactly the gravitational pull of the moon.

"So knowing how gravity changes sea level helps geodesists make more accurate measurements. In general, in areas of the planet where gravitational forces are stronger, the mean sea level will be higher. In areas where the Earth's gravitational forces are weaker, the mean sea level will be lower."

https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/features/NASASeaLevel

31 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Gravity is quite powerful, think black holes

I'm thinking helium balloons.

17 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

The ocean water is not flat, its governed by gravity, that's why some parts of the world have higher coastal erosion that others.

 

I mystified, you reject all the evidence, when did you start to distrust basic science so much, at school?

 

Where do meteorites come from and their fragments that are found on earth?

Water level..........Need I say more.......Wikipedia agrees.....

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_level_(device)

 

 

SEA-LEVEL......is called  sea level for a reason........Maybe because the oceans are flat...

Edited January 1, 20233 yr by redwood1

4 minutes ago, redwood1 said:

Water level..........Need I say more.......Wikipedia agrees.....

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_level_(device)

 

 

SEA-LEVEL......is called  sea level for a reason........Maybe because the oceans are flat...

"So knowing how gravity changes sea level helps geodesists make more accurate measurements. In general, in areas of the planet where gravitational forces are stronger, the mean sea level will be higher. In areas where the Earth's gravitational forces are weaker, the mean sea level will be lower."

https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/features/NASASeaLevel

 

You missed my other questions:

 

19 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

I mystified, you reject all the evidence, when did you start to distrust basic science so much, at school?

 

Where do meteorites come from and their fragments that are found on earth?

 

8 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

I'm thinking helium balloons.

Think Physics

Why do helium filled balloons move away from the Earth?

https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/2415/why-do-helium-filled-balloons-move-away-from-the-earth