Bkk Brian Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 1 minute ago, transam said: Please don't twist my words, she spouts other's stuff, a puppet......... Anyone that talks about the credible science from real scientists is then a puppet by your definition. Brilliant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 1 minute ago, placeholder said: So Thomas Huxley, the great populiser of the Theory of Evolution was also a puppet? Subscribing to the overwhelming scientific evidence makes one a puppet? Denying that overwhelming evidence means that one is free? If that's the case, then you are about as free as someone can be. I guess as a corollary to Knowledge is Power, you would have us believe that Ignorance is Freedom. But Tommy was the genuine thing...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Just now, transam said: You or I are not on globe-trotting to be on a stage spouting other's stuff, or perhaps you are..... "other's stuff"? Nobody owns science. Subscribing to the science and popularizing it is not about obedience to a person or persons. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Anyone that talks about the credible science from real scientists is then a puppet by your definition. Brilliant Those that perform other's work are puppets or actors....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Just now, transam said: But Tommy was the genuine thing...... Not by the standards you have cited. You claim that Greta is just repeating what science has established. How does this differ from what Huxley did? By your logic he was just Darwin's marionette or sock puppet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Just now, transam said: Those that perform other's work are puppets or actors....... I suggest school education has taught you how to be a puppet then. We must all be puppets in your world.....lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, transam said: Those that perform other's work are puppets or actors....... Even if the nonsense you claim here was valid, it's apparently irrelevant to you that what they are saying in this case is scientifically valid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 1 minute ago, placeholder said: Not by the standards you have cited. You claim that Greta is just repeating what science has established. How does this differ from what Huxley did? By your logic he was just Darwin's marionette or sock puppet. Dunno, never met him.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: I suggest school education has taught you how to be a puppet then. We must all be puppets in your world.....lol For people who claim not to be puppets they certainly know how to fall in with the party line. Conformity at its best. Do your own research they said. Don't trust experts they said. Edited January 19, 2023 by ozimoron 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, transam said: Dunno, never met him.... That you think meeting someone is determinative rather than what they wrote and said , says all we need to know about your standards for evidence. Edited January 19, 2023 by placeholder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, placeholder said: That you think meeting someone is determinative rather than what they wrote and said , says all we need to know about your standards for evidence. I have no evidence, only the same stuff that we all read, we are talking about GT here........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 23 minutes ago, JonnyF said: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8440046/ Correlation is not causation. That article notes correlation but provides zero evidence of causation. Yes we know there are more obese people in the developed west than there are in Asia, there are also more cars per capita, flights pre capita, more home heating per capita. More energy used per capita in the west and more obese people per capita in the west. There are also more bald men per capita in the west, perhaps baldness in men is the cause of global warming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, transam said: So what, what has she achieved, just a teen with a mental problem put on the stage by her parents for the , "aaaaaaah" factor. Now she is 20, no job, no qualifications, just the "aaaaah" followers. She has the opinion that the human race will become extinct soon , so its understandably that she doesn't want to get a job or study or anything like that , in her opinion, she is the last of the Human race and we will all be dead soon and no longer exist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, transam said: So what, what has she achieved, just a teen with a mental problem put on the stage by her parents for the , "aaaaaaah" factor. Now she is 20, no job, no qualifications, just the "aaaaah" followers. She's achieved a lot for a disabled person. TIME's 2019 Person of the Year. Thunberg won the Gulbenkian Prize for Humanity in 2020 and stated her plans to donate her €1 million prize money to worthy causes through her foundation. Greta Thunberg has amassed a net worth of approximately $1 million, making her one of the wealthiest climate activists in the world. https://finty.com/us/net-worth/greta-thunberg/ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, placeholder said: Typical lowlife comment directed at making it personal. There are plenty of people who suffer from depression. That doesn't mean that they can't accomplish great things. She has been hugely successful in directing attention at the problem. And since you''ve been gone awhile you may not be aware that the mods have explicitly produced a rule for this forum. Here it is: "Any alleged factual claims must be supported by a valid link to an approved credible source." So, have you got evidence that "she was put on stage by her parents"? You know the saying that beings with "Put up or"...? Well, unless you've actually got some solid evidence to produce, I suggest you keep your slander to yourself. Aaaaaaaaaaah, see what I mean...... Are you a member of staff now......? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 1 minute ago, transam said: Aaaaaaaaaaah, see what I mean...... Are you a member of staff now......? Her parents supported her in her endeavours. Most good parents do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 7 minutes ago, proton said: Debunked years ago, when it was looked at by others they found less than 0.4% of researchers had said human activity was directly linked to global warming. Debunked years ago yet the new study was only released at the end of 2021. Provide a link to your claims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, proton said: Debunked years ago, when it was looked at by others they found less than 0.4% of researchers had said human activity was directly linked to global warming. Thanks not producing a link. It makes your contention so convincing. In fact, there were some ridiculous criticisms directed at a previous survey. The gist of them was that only a fraction of climatological papers referenced global warming. This is true. But it's about as valid as denying the theory of evolution is valid because most research in biology doesn't reference Darwin or his successors. Whenever global warming or climate change is referenced in climatological research, it's now virtually always that it either is based on the fact of human caused climate change or is actively researching its mechanisms. https://skepticalscience.com/global-warming-scientific-consensus-advanced.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Just now, Bkk Brian said: Debunked years ago yet the new study was only released at the end of 2021. Provide a link to your claims A common theme of climate change deniers is that they never will provide a credible link to their politically motivated claims. They just get hostile to advocates of action to address the problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proton Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said: Debunked years ago yet the new study was only released at the end of 2021. Provide a link to your claims 10.4 degrees below in the UK, some global warming, or maybe it's just passing the island by? Do you need a link for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 11 minutes ago, transam said: So what, what has she achieved, just a teen with a mental problem put on the stage by her parents for the , "aaaaaaah" factor. Now she is 20, no job, no qualifications, just the "aaaaah" followers. Put on stage by her parents? Link? Greta Thunberg’s father says he initially did not support his daughter’s climate activism, calling it a “bad idea,” but his view changed when he saw how happy it made her. “We are not climate activists, we never were,” he said, saying Greta used to call them “hypocrites” for not taking the climate issue seriously. “We obviously did not have a clue (about) the climate crisis and she basically thought we were huge hypocrites,” he said, adding that he and his wife were longtime refugee and human rights advocates instead. https://edition.cnn.com/2019/12/30/europe/greta-thunberg-dad-depression-intl/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, proton said: 10.4 degrees below in the UK, some global warming, or maybe it's just passing the island by? Do you need a link for it! Link to your claims in the previous post will do nicely. Edited January 19, 2023 by Bkk Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slip Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, proton said: 10.4 degrees below in the UK, some global warming, or maybe it's just passing the island by? Do you need a link for it! So you don't know the difference between climate and weather? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, proton said: 10.4 degrees below in the UK, some global warming, or maybe it's just passing the island by? Do you need a link for it! Someone else who doesn't understand the difference between "climate" and "weather". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proton Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Just now, ozimoron said: A common theme of climate change deniers is that they never will provide a credible link to their politically motivated claims. They just get hostile to advocates of action to address the problem. Nobody denies the climate is changing, which is natural and never ending. What we deny is the unproven hysteria that human activity is causing it. Nothing to do with politics. Any evidence will be dismissed by the blinkered global warming minions, so whats the point in posting links you will likely not even look at them anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Thunberg won the Gulbenkian Prize for Humanity in 2020 and stated her plans to donate her €1 million prize money to worthy causes through her foundation. The 1 Million prize money was awarded to her on the understanding that it would be used to help further her cause , she wasn't expected to personally keep the money . The prize money is given to a person to help them continue with the cause that they were nominated for . She had to (sign) agree to donate the prize money before she was able to receive it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Put on stage by her parents? Link? Greta Thunberg’s father says he initially did not support his daughter’s climate activism, calling it a “bad idea,” but his view changed when he saw how happy it made her. “We are not climate activists, we never were,” he said, saying Greta used to call them “hypocrites” for not taking the climate issue seriously. “We obviously did not have a clue (about) the climate crisis and she basically thought we were huge hypocrites,” he said, adding that he and his wife were longtime refugee and human rights advocates instead. https://edition.cnn.com/2019/12/30/europe/greta-thunberg-dad-depression-intl/index.html "Refugee and human rights advocates", well, well, well, so GT was brought up in an activist "climate", that shines a bit of light on things.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Just now, proton said: Nobody denies the climate is changing, which is natural and never ending. What we deny is the unproven hysteria that human activity is causing it. Nothing to do with politics. Any evidence will be dismissed by the blinkered global warming minions, so whats the point in posting links you will likely not even look at them anyway. "Unproven hysteria that human activity is causing it"? That's because you won't read links to articles quoting credible climate scientists. I'd read any links you post that are credible. Go for it. Your use of emotive language betrays zealotry and an unwillingness to actually engage in an evidence based debate . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruit Trader Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 50 minutes ago, transam said: Those that perform other's work are puppets or actors....... Or children used to perform public relation stunts. I see Thunberg as nothing more than a contrived fraud being fed lines by her activist handlers. One only needs to look at what happens when she faces media questions without a script. Not all bad for Greta though, after her recent spat with Andrew Tate its clear she has a talent for dick jokes. No longer a child and approaching 20, I really do hope Greta's online safe space army are strong enough to hold off the sh*t storm brewing in media wings. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 7 minutes ago, proton said: Nobody denies the climate is changing, which is natural and never ending. What we deny is the unproven hysteria that human activity is causing it. Nothing to do with politics. Any evidence will be dismissed by the blinkered global warming minions, so whats the point in posting links you will likely not even look at them anyway. Yes, all those lying blinkered climatologists. What you're denying is basically an established fact since the mid 19th century when the eminent Irish physicist, John Tindall, discovered what is popularly known as the greenhouse effect. It only became controversial when its application threatened certain economic interests Exxon Knew about Climate Change almost 40 years ago A new investigation shows the oil company understood the science before it became a public issue and spent millions to promote misinformation https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-climate-change-almost-40-years-ago/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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