Tug Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said: In that case, you should support Native American studies course, with emphasis on all the broken treaties. You do want to know about the American past, and for white men to learn and progress, don't you? I have no problem with any course about anything as long as they are not compulsory. If people want a particular course they can sign up for it. Actually I do remember learning about that in school also about our shameful legacy of slavery personally I feel I’m the better for it we also learned about ww1 ww2 Korea I feel it should be a requirement to graduate high school that way we can make progress and become better people
EVENKEEL Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 When slavery is taught, I'm sure they learn of their African heritage who captured and sold the slaves to the merchants. Or does that aspect of it get bypassed? 1
KhunLA Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 19 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: When slavery is taught, I'm sure they learn of their African heritage who captured and sold the slaves to the merchants. Or does that aspect of it get bypassed? Don't know about now, but we were taught that. Fighting tribes either killed all the males, or they went to the slave trade. Here's one for you ... some of the newly freed slaves, couldn't make it in the USA, so went back to the homeland ... & ... became slave traders ... ???? "Some of these returned African freed slaves became slave traders themselves in order to survive.1" http://www.sierra-leone.org/Books/1926 Slave Revolt.pdf 1
ozimoron Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 46 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: When slavery is taught, I'm sure they learn of their African heritage who captured and sold the slaves to the merchants. Or does that aspect of it get bypassed? Since you know it I guess they do. The information is not suppressed. What is also a fact is that those slaves were sold to European slave traders. You don't mention that aspect. 1
bangon04 Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 On 1/21/2023 at 6:22 AM, Jingthing said: The sides are NOT equivalent. Nobody is trying to ERASE the history of white straight people or make white straight people INVISIBLE. The fascist politics that DeSantis is running with is basically a next step after Trump's politics of white resentment, white nationalism, or worse. at least he is not an anti-semite......... 1
Jingthing Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 1 hour ago, bangon04 said: at least he is not an anti-semite......... OK. But he's not likely to win many more Jewish votes than trump if nominated as the vast majority of American Jews will reject him because of his scapegoating of other minorities particularly LGBT people.
EVENKEEL Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jingthing said: OK. But he's not likely to win many more Jewish votes than trump if nominated as the vast majority of American Jews will reject him because of his scapegoating of other minorities particularly LGBT people. Because Jews are a minority you think they will identify with the LGBT folks. C'mon man. You don't think they are smart enough to side with whom ever they think is the best for their interests. If I guess counted I would bet the Jews are also against the LGBT nonsense. 1
ozimoron Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 47 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: Because Jews are a minority you think they will identify with the LGBT folks. C'mon man. You don't think they are smart enough to side with whom ever they think is the best for their interests. If I guess counted I would bet the Jews are also against the LGBT nonsense. No, because Jews in the US tend to vote Democrat.
Jingthing Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 1 hour ago, EVENKEEL said: Because Jews are a minority you think they will identify with the LGBT folks. C'mon man. You don't think they are smart enough to side with whom ever they think is the best for their interests. If I guess counted I would bet the Jews are also against the LGBT nonsense. Not only because they are a minority but because the majority of American Jews are passionate about civil rights for all minorities. https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/tikkun-olam-repairing-the-world/
Jingthing Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 30 minutes ago, ozimoron said: No, because Jews in the US tend to vote Democrat. More would vote republican and have done so before if the Republicans dropped their association with white resentment and worse.
candide Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 3 hours ago, EVENKEEL said: Because Jews are a minority you think they will identify with the LGBT folks. C'mon man. You don't think they are smart enough to side with whom ever they think is the best for their interests. If I guess counted I would bet the Jews are also against the LGBT nonsense. Jews are usually against racism and discriminations, whoever is concerned, because they have suffered from it in the past. They also know they may well be the next target. A good example is the case of white supremacists who were mainly anti-black and recently also turned antisemitic.
Jingthing Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 16 minutes ago, candide said: Jews are usually against racism and discriminations, whoever is concerned, because they have suffered from it in the past. They also know they may well be the next target. A good example is the case of white supremacists who were mainly anti-black and recently also turned antisemitic. Not only in the past. Jews are the top target of hate crimes in the U.S. and Europe. The Charlottesville fascists were chanting "Jews will not replace us." The background to that is the right wing "replacement theory" that they blame mostly on the Jews. The man that did the synagogue massacre in Pittsburgh was motivated by his opposition to a Jewish group dedicated to helping poor (mostly Latino) refugees. They think it's some kind of master plan to increase non-white voters. No plan is needed. It's happening naturally. The only way for the white nationalist types to win is through aggressive voter suppression policies, etc. If people remember, when Joe Biden announced his run for president he said his main reason was to oppose the Neo Nazi fascism represented in Charlottesville. So yes scapegoating LGBT people, trying to whitewash black history, abusing (mostly non-white) undocumented immigrants, is something American Jews (for the most part) can relate to as horribly wrong on a very deep level. What is the great replacement theory and what does it say about Jews? – The Forward Quote What is the great replacement theory and what does it say about Jews? Espoused by the gunman who killed 10 Black people in Buffalo Saturday, the conspiracy theory places Jews at its center. 1 1
Jingthing Posted January 29, 2023 Posted January 29, 2023 Major well deserved black-lash against trumpist fascist DeSantis in Florida. When he says anti woke its transparent bigot code for anti LGBT, anti women's rights, anti black, and anti immigrant. According to recent reports he is fixing to run for president. If nominated he shouldn't expect a coronation. The grand democratic party coalition is ready to deflate this cynical demagogue. 1
BritManToo Posted January 29, 2023 Posted January 29, 2023 1 minute ago, Jingthing said: When he says anti woke its transparent bigot code for anti LGBT, anti women's rights, anti black, and anti immigrant. Did you forget anti-Muslim? 1 1
EVENKEEL Posted January 29, 2023 Posted January 29, 2023 3 hours ago, Jingthing said: Major well deserved black-lash against trumpist fascist DeSantis in Florida. When he says anti woke its transparent bigot code for anti LGBT, anti women's rights, anti black, and anti immigrant. According to recent reports he is fixing to run for president. If nominated he shouldn't expect a coronation. The grand democratic party coalition is ready to deflate this cynical demagogue. Please provide proof of all the allegations you made. 1
Chomper Higgot Posted January 29, 2023 Posted January 29, 2023 3 hours ago, BritManToo said: Did you forget anti-Muslim? Odd you should mention it.
Jingthing Posted January 29, 2023 Posted January 29, 2023 1 hour ago, EVENKEEL said: Please provide proof of all the allegations you made. Bait ignored. 1
EVENKEEL Posted January 29, 2023 Posted January 29, 2023 3 hours ago, Jingthing said: Bait ignored. Prove it.....When he says anti woke its transparent bigot code for anti LGBT Prove anti women's rights, Prove anti black Prove anti immigrant. 2
Jingthing Posted January 29, 2023 Posted January 29, 2023 9 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: Prove it.....When he says anti woke its transparent bigot code for anti LGBT Prove anti women's rights, Prove anti black Prove anti immigrant. Another bait ignored. 1
ozimoron Posted January 29, 2023 Posted January 29, 2023 3 hours ago, EVENKEEL said: Prove it.....When he says anti woke its transparent bigot code for anti LGBT Prove anti women's rights, Prove anti black Prove anti immigrant. But a spate of actions some have criticized as “anti-Black” could pose a threat for the governor’s chances at winning over Black voters, who became a deciding factor in securing President Biden’s election in 2020 and the Democrats’ Senate majority in the 2022 midterms. Since his initial election four years ago, DeSantis has taken a hard-line approach against critical race theory, an academic framework that seeks to address systemic racism in the U.S. https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3828839-desantis-actions-could-pose-risk-with-black-voters-in-2024/
thaibeachlovers Posted January 29, 2023 Posted January 29, 2023 4 hours ago, EVENKEEL said: Prove it.....When he says anti woke its transparent bigot code for anti LGBT Prove anti women's rights, Prove anti black Prove anti immigrant. Don't hold your breath.
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