17 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

because Thailand is a better place to live than where we came from?

Absolutely NOT.   America is easily the best country, and always will be in my mind.

 

People like Thailand because they don't understand anything, or want to.  Eyes closed mentally.

 

Working for decades in the best country, going to every state, enjoying everything, and then taking a "life break" to Thailand certainly doesn't mean I LOS is better.   I'm not retired here, just relaxing for a number of years.  I still have deep roots back home.

 

When you speak Thai and get to know many college kids (if you are a teacher, example), you will begin to hear the complains very, very similar to back home...if not worse.

 

grass isn't greener at all, just way easier.    not tied to LOS at all.  100% tied to USA.   Let's go!!! USA< USA< USA.

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

You are wrong.

I knew a Brit that owned a restaurant in Pattaya. Wasn't allowed to cook himself breakfast in his own kitchen.

Yes apparently. It would seem to be stricter in the city or tourist centers. In the small market town near me an Italian (no work permit) openly serves food and beer to his guests in his bar/restaurant while his wife stays in the kitchen, he has never had anyone approach him about it. I openly help my wife in the rice fields and work on my house in the village, everyone here thinks that to be normal. I even chatted to an IO about the spreading of bio fertilizer as opposed to chemicals, no mention of 'you must have a work permit', I've been doing this for 17 years, no problems.

1 minute ago, soalbundy said:

Yes apparently. It would seem to be stricter in the city or tourist centers. In the small market town near me an Italian (no work permit) openly serves food and beer to his guests in his bar/restaurant while his wife stays in the kitchen, he has never had anyone approach him about it. I openly help my wife in the rice fields and work on my house in the village, everyone here thinks that to be normal. I even chatted to an IO about the spreading of bio fertilizer as opposed to chemicals, no mention of 'you must have a work permit', I've been doing this for 17 years, no problems.

IMO one has to upset someone to have a problem, except in places like Pattaya where money is to be made from farangs by the usual suspects.

 

I not only rewired both family houses, but did the plumbing on all the family's rental houses.

Obviously I didn't upset the locals though.

1 hour ago, BananaStrong said:

Absolutely NOT.   America is easily the best country, and always will be in my mind.

 

People like Thailand because they don't understand anything, or want to.  Eyes closed mentally.

 

Working for decades in the best country, going to every state, enjoying everything, and then taking a "life break" to Thailand certainly doesn't mean I LOS is better.   I'm not retired here, just relaxing for a number of years.  I still have deep roots back home.

 

When you speak Thai and get to know many college kids (if you are a teacher, example), you will begin to hear the complains very, very similar to back home...if not worse.

 

grass isn't greener at all, just way easier.    not tied to LOS at all.  100% tied to USA.   Let's go!!! USA< USA< USA.

USA the best country 55555555555555555555555555

I'm sure it's a wonderful place if have lotsacash, but not so good if poor. That's pretty universal.

 

Don't learn conversational Thai and you don't have that sort of problem.

7 hours ago, mania said:

Your confused about my post which relates only to

Labour minister promises nationwide crackdown against foreigners with no Work Permit "taking jobs from Thais"

 

Alone period

 

We have a home in Thailand & are quite happy when we are there too.

But their lack of government/leadership is doing none any favors especially the Thai's themselves

Other than immigration which I loathed, the Thai government never made a problem for me in any shape or form. They made it far easier for me to live in LOS than it would have been for a Thai to live in my home country.

 

I 100% support their action against employing foreigners in jobs which Thais can do and 1 million % support them in not allowing foreigners to own land.

 

I only hire foreign managers at my companies now because I found Thais to be lazy, untrustworthy and incompetent.

 

They all have work permits and are fully legal and are doing jobs Thais cannot do from my experience.

 

Stick that in yer pipe and smoke it. 

2 hours ago, BananaStrong said:

Absolutely NOT.   America is easily the best country, and always will be in my mind.

hahahaha

 

America is a broken country. Jan 6 last year radicals storming the capital. 

 

Mass shootings a common thing

 

Police state of the world. 

 

IRS out of control. Cant even open a bank account here

 

Need I go on?? Thanks to god Im not American.

21 hours ago, timberpond said:

Honestly, how do they determined work is carried out without the prove of financial gains? 

If my wife is selling noodles and I helped to wash some bowls (because of boring) without being paid, am I working? Or am I volunteering?

 

 

Doesn't matter, you're not allowed to "volunteer" without a work permit, talk to some of the Farangs fined for helping out in the aftermath of the Tsunami in 2004... 

39 minutes ago, zyphodb said:

Doesn't matter, you're not allowed to "volunteer" without a work permit, talk to some of the Farangs fined for helping out in the aftermath of the Tsunami in 2004... 

At the same time the RTP were allegedly stealing the donated charity money.

On 1/22/2023 at 6:03 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

Have a bit of common sense about it.

Tongue in cheek my friend, tongue in cheek 

It would seem boomers on there get more frothed up about work permits than the actual authorities 

On 1/21/2023 at 9:28 AM, 2baht said:

.....................of course there are jobs that Thai's will not do, they think it's below them!

You mean the jobs they gladly take when moved to a european country? ????

On 1/21/2023 at 2:57 AM, jvs said:

They will probably catch a few older Foreigners who are helping their wives

trying to make a small living(survive).

Take a few pictures and deport them(no money to make the problem go away) Yes i know they break the law but really?

 

I lived in Thailand for years with my Thai wife, who’s family had several, very successful business in HuaHin.

 

I was on a retirement visa and was always careful not to do anything in the business that could be construed in any way as “work”. 
I wouldn’t even move a chair or serve a customer when they were busy. 

I did do a bit of DIY on our house and garden because that’s allowed, but she usually employed a Thai to do maintenance jobs in the business.  
It’s not just the authorities you have to be careful of, it could be a jealous farang friend that turned you in. 

I had a English friend in Cha Am who got dobbed in by a so called Farang friend for doing minor jobs in his wife’s business and it caused him endless problems with immigration for years after that. 

 

On 1/22/2023 at 6:29 PM, timberpond said:

Honestly, how do they determined work is carried out without the prove of financial gains? 

If my wife is selling noodles and I helped to wash some bowls (because of boring) without being paid, am I working? Or am I volunteering?

 

 

Volunteering is classified as work.

You can wash the bowls at home as family life, but washing them at work is a no no.

They would, IMO, find out if doing so ( unless stupid enough to do in public sight ) because an aggrieved Thai reported one. Pays to keep neighbours happy.

On 1/21/2023 at 7:20 PM, LikeItHot said:

I suppose digital nomads slip through a crack or maybe not but I had the displeasure of trying to enjoy a beverage and some scenery while two of them were clacking away on their laptops

You must be fun at parties.

On 1/23/2023 at 2:49 AM, soalbundy said:

I openly help my wife in the rice fields and work on my house in the village, everyone here thinks that to be normal.

In any other country this would be normal and legal. It's a mystery why in Thailand being married to a Thai does not automatically grant you the right to work. It's an even bigger mystery why some stickler farangs get offended by such behavior. It's usually not Thais who care - it's farang. Live and let live.