Biden to send 31 frontline battle tanks in major escalation of war effort.

[Social Media]

WASHINGTON — President Joe Biden announced Wednesday that the U.S. will send 31 of its frontline battle tanks to Ukraine, reversing his previous reluctance to provide armored vehicles as Ukrainian forces prepare for a new Russian offensive.

The M1 Abrams tanks, which Kiev requested and Biden faced international pressure to deliver, are viewed as critical to stave off a springtime offensive by Russian forces and to help the Ukrainians claw back parts of their country seized during the invasion ordered by Russian President Vladimir Putin.

[thaibeachlovers]

Significant word is "escalation".

Let's hope they don't escalate it into something everyone regrets.

[Tug]

11 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Significant word is "escalation".

Let's hope they don't escalate it into something everyone regrets.

Let’s hope comrade Putin gets the message and escalates the speed of his exit from ALL of Ukraine ???????? 

[heybruce]

On 1/25/2023 at 5:15 PM, thaibeachlovers said:

Significant word is "escalation".

Let's hope they don't escalate it into something everyone regrets.

Ukraine is fighting with one arm behind its back; Russia frequently launches attacks on Ukraine from Russian territory, while Ukraine is not allowed to launch attacks on Russian territory from Ukraine.  This small move partially compensates for this and other major advantages Russia has in the war.

 

All things considered it's amazing Russia hasn't won yet.  Their military must really suck.  Or maybe it's their leadership.

[Pattaya Spotter]

At least the heading is correct...Joe Biden is escalating his proxy war against Russia at The Ukraine's expense.

[heybruce]

2 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

At least the heading is correct...Joe Biden is escalating his proxy war against Russia at The Ukraine's expense.

Yet Ukraine isn't complaining, it's asking for further aid.  Could it be that Ukraine understands the situation better than you?

[tuktuktuk]

Latest on this is the Pentagon says the US doesn't have 31 it can spare.  They'll order and ship new tanks resulting in months of delay.  Some speculate that could take up to a year.

Edited January 27, 2023 by tuktuktuk

[ozimoron]

On 1/26/2023 at 5:15 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

Significant word is "escalation".

Let's hope they don't escalate it into something everyone regrets.

The speculation is that Russia is about to escalate the war in the spring with an invasion from the north.

[vandeventer]

Lets forget all the Bs and help Ukraine push out the invaders. If the Abrams tank is not right for the job then give them the tank they need. Surely all the tanks in America's arsenals of tanks are not all Abrams. So suppling 31 tanks to Ukraine, is Biden cowling downing to Putin? Russia needs to cowl down to the rest of the world and get the hell out of Ukraine.

[billd766]

On 1/26/2023 at 5:15 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

Significant word is "escalation".

Let's hope they don't escalate it into something everyone regrets.

Tell that to the person and the country that started the war in the first place.

[billd766]

1 hour ago, tuktuktuk said:

Latest on this is the Pentagon says the US doesn't have 31 it can spare.  They'll order and ship new tanks resulting in months of delay.  Some speculate that could take up to a year.

Do you have a link for that?

 

Yet there are US main battle tanks pre positioned in several NATO countries already.

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1294391/nato-tank-strength-country/

[tuktuktuk]

2 hours ago, billd766 said:

Do you have a link for that?

https://www.stripes.com/theaters/us/2023-01-26/abrams-tanks-ukraine-russia-pentagon-8900716.html

[dotcalm]

Biden's promise to send tanks delayed by lack of inventory: reports
Pentagon spokesperson confirms U.S. does not have 31 M1 Abrams tanks in stockpile.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bidens-promise-send-tanks-delayed-lack-inventory-reports?intcmp=tw_fnc

Clearly Biden’s regime admin’s left hand has no clue what it’s right hand is doing. Talk about disjointed coordination as Xi and others watch and salivate. Maybe US is getting cold feet at the prospects of escalating conflict with the worlds nuclear superpower.

Need to mobilize Trump asap to mitigate to resolve Biden’s repeated messy foreign policy disaster’s and negotiate a settlement. Nobody respects Biden and they only mock and laugh at him, while they show respect for Trump who has proven his foreign policy prowess and is more than capable to stop this US proxy war.

 

Additionally: “Earlier this month, Germany suggested it would not agree to send its tanks to Ukraine unless the U.S. did as well, citing concerns over escalating the war”.

So now, no Leopards for Zelenskyy!? Putin would have plinked them all, including the Abrams anyways.

[Berkshire]

2 minutes ago, dotcalm said:

Need to mobilize Trump asap to mitigate to resolve Biden’s repeated messy foreign policy disaster’s and negotiate a settlement. Nobody respects Biden and they only mock and laugh at him, while they show respect for Trump who has proven his foreign policy prowess and is more than capable to stop this US proxy war.

 

What complete and utter nonsense.  Trump was a disaster as POTUS and was a lapdog to Putin.  Trump's idea of solving this problem would have been to give Putin whatever he wanted.  Trump has virtually zero respect from the international community.

[dotcalm]

6 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

Trump has virtually zero respect from the international community.

LOL, he has WAY more than Biden.

Biden is laughed at, the Afghan disaster, begging Saudi's for oil and on and on and on.

It never ends for Biden, one boner after another.

Biden should be more concerned with border security, fentanyl crisis and record drug poisonings, Mexican cartels, ANTIFA rioters, etc  instead of using the UA proxy war to make money.

[xylophone]

8 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

What complete and utter nonsense.  Trump was a disaster as POTUS and was a lapdog to Putin.  Trump's idea of solving this problem would have been to give Putin whatever he wanted.  Trump has virtually zero respect from the international community.

I do believe that the poster "dotcalm" is being deliberately antagonistic, not only in this post, but in several others, because no one in their right mind can really believe the things he writes, so he is just a "windup" merchant.

 

And if he isn't, then he surely he has a twisted view of the world and in particular trump and his non-achievements.

[pomchop]

yeah oh boy if only trump had been able to overthrow the election then he could have been more of a tyrant dictator like his buddies putin and dear leader then trump would have told putin what to do and putin would have laughed in his face like every other world leader did for past four years.....trumpers don't seem to understand that trump is finished because he was a horrible president that would not take advice from any of his own hand picked "best and brightest" cabinet and advisers....all of whom he praised to high heaven when appointing them only to fire them and call them incompetent idiots when they dared to tell him what he did not want to hear....and of course mr bone spur knows more than all of the US generals who actually experienced war, studied war, lived war first hand while trump was playing golf and  grabbing em by the pxxxxy

[heybruce]

The commitment of Abrams tanks is symbolic; it provides cover for other countries to deliver tanks that Ukraine can learn to operate and maintain in a short time. 

 

However it is an important symbol.  I expect many more countries will offer tanks now.

[LennyW]

Oh that will escalate it okay ....... BOOM!

[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, LennyW said:

Oh that will escalate it okay ....... BOOM!

They would escalate nothing if Russia withdrew.

[Bkk Brian]

14 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

Why would The Ukrainian and its Nazis Azov battalions be against more war?

Azov are against the terrorist invaders and the Russian Nazi groups, Russian Imperial Legion & Rusich, fighting for Russia in Ukraine. Why would they stop kicking them out?

Edited January 27, 2023 by Bkk Brian

[Chomper Higgot]

On 1/25/2023 at 10:15 PM, thaibeachlovers said:

Significant word is "escalation".

Let's hope they don't escalate it into something everyone regrets.

It’s a headline, not a factual statement of anything on the battle field.

 

We are however widely informed of Russian build up for more attacks on Ukraine, which is an actual escalation of the conflict.

 

But of course opinions differ and my own opinions are not habitually pro-Russian.

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

Why would The Ukrainian and its Nazis Azov battalions be against more war?

More defense of their nation against an illegal invasion.

 

Why do you ask?
 

 

[rabas]

9 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

At least the heading is correct...Joe Biden is escalating his proxy war against Russia at The Ukraine's expense.

... at Ukraine's request. 

 

[billd766]

2 hours ago, tuktuktuk said:

https://www.stripes.com/theaters/us/2023-01-26/abrams-tanks-ukraine-russia-pentagon-8900716.html

Thank you for the link.

[ozimoron]

This looks like the real reason that the US initially declined to send the Abrams tanks.

 

U.S. to send Ukraine more advanced Abrams tanks — but no secret armor

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/01/26/us-sends-ukraine-advanced-abrams-tanks-00079648

[ozimoron]

U.S. Dismisses Russia's Reaction to Abrams Tanks: 'Heard That Line Before'

 

https://www.newsweek.com/us-dismisses-russia-reaction-abrams-tanks-heard-line-before-pentagon-ukraine-1776999

[ozimoron]

F-16 fighter jets could be next after Ukraine’s breakthrough on tanks

 

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/3832384-f-16-fighter-jets-could-be-next-after-ukraines-breakthrough-on-tanks/

[heybruce]

13 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

Why would The Ukrainian and its Nazis Azov battalions be against more war?

Either blatant trolling or stubbornly willful ignorance.

 

Once again, Russia started the war when it invaded Ukraine.  If Russia withdraws the war will end.  If Russia and Ukraine agree to reparations for the incredible damage done to Ukraine then a peace deal might be signed,

 

Why is this so difficult for you to grasp?

[SunnyinBangrak]

3 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Either blatant trolling or stubbornly willful ignorance.

 

Once again, Russia started the war when it invaded Ukraine.  If Russia withdraws the war will end.  If Russia and Ukraine agree to reparations for the incredible damage done to Ukraine then a peace deal might be signed,

 

Why is this so difficult for you to grasp?

Because your statement is so overly simplistic that it is laughable. Russia did not just wake up one day and decide to invade Ukraine for no reason whatsoever. The west meddled in Ukraine's internal politics which for the Russians was unacceptable. 

 Why can't you not grasp this is not a black/white situation? War never is.