Facebook Allows Donald Trump Back on Platform

[Pattaya Spotter]

He's baaaaack!

[SunnyinBangrak]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

Because Russia hadn't launched its invasion while Trump was president, that means that Trump was responsible for that? Not everything that happens in the world had to do with the USA.

We do know that for months Trump illegally withheld weapons authorized by Congress to be sent to Ukraine as Russia and its Ukrainian allies escalated attacks. We know that Trump refused even to respond to desperate queries from Ukraine about. It was only after a bipartisan congress threatened Trump that he relented. And he still tried to pressure Zelensky into launching a baseless investigation of Joe Biden, his leading political opponent.

 

You know full well it wasn't baseless and the laptop has been authenticated. It is another conspiracy theory that you haven't let go of. There was a reason unqualified Biden jr was being paid vast fortunes by Burisma.

 Getting very tired of seeing conspiracy theories.

[stevenl]

48 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

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 Getting very tired of seeing conspiracy theories.

Yes, agree with that.

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46 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

You know full well it wasn't baseless and the laptop has been authenticated. It is another conspiracy theory that you haven't let go of. There was a reason unqualified Biden jr was being paid vast fortunes by Burisma.

 Getting very tired of seeing conspiracy theories.

I think you should look up the meaning of "conspiracy". One person doesn't make a conspiracy. Trump withheld authorized arms from Ukraine for months without explanation.

And what I know full well is that the Burisma accusations were baseless. As has been pointed out time and time again, Biden was carrying out the policy of the USA in pressuring Ukraine to fire Shokin. It's also what the EU wanted.

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52 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

You know full well it wasn't baseless and the laptop has been authenticated. It is another conspiracy theory that you haven't let go of. There was a reason unqualified Biden jr was being paid vast fortunes by Burisma.

 Getting very tired of seeing conspiracy theories.

I have no doubt that Burisma hired Hunter Biden in order to influence his father. That doesn't mean that they got anything for their money. And there is 0 evidence that they did.

[Eric Loh]

52 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

You know full well it wasn't baseless and the laptop has been authenticated. It is another conspiracy theory that you haven't let go of. There was a reason unqualified Biden jr was being paid vast fortunes by Burisma.

 Getting very tired of seeing conspiracy theories.

Getting tired but still have enough in you to post one. 

[2baht]

3 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Trump also Bought peace to Israel

They killed 9 Palestinians last night!

[heybruce]

3 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Trump also Bought peace to Israel and some of its neighbours , he brokered peace deals between Israel some other formerly hostile countries 

Israel doesn't seem any more peaceful now than it was before Trump was elected.  https://lasvegassun.com/news/2023/jan/26/israel-gaza-fighters-trade-fire-after-deadly-west/

[heybruce]

3 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

He's blaming the people that voted twice 

Do you mean the mystery double-voters that nobody can find?

[Mac Mickmanus]

6 hours ago, heybruce said:

Israel doesn't seem any more peaceful now than it was before Trump was elected.  https://lasvegassun.com/news/2023/jan/26/israel-gaza-fighters-trade-fire-after-deadly-west/

I did mean neighbouring Countries , think that it was U.A.E and a few other Countries , which can be found if you can be bothered doing a websearch, as I cannot be bothered 

 

[Phoenix Rising]

44 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

I did mean neighbouring Countries , think that it was U.A.E and a few other Countries , which can be found if you can be bothered doing a websearch, as I cannot be bothered 

 

The UAE isn't a neighboring country (to Israel). Maybe you should be bothered to do a "websearch" so you don't embarrass yourself further.

[candide]

48 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

I did mean neighbouring Countries , think that it was U.A.E and a few other Countries , which can be found if you can be bothered doing a websearch, as I cannot be bothered 

 

On top of not being neighbouring, these countries were not in conflict with Israel. No previous conflict => no peace agreement

[Mac Mickmanus]

2 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

The UAE isn't a neighboring country (to Israel). Maybe you should be bothered to do a "websearch" so you don't embarrass yourself further.

The location of the U.A.E is irrelevant , the actual point was that Trump brokered a  peace deal between Israel and the UAE .

   Whether U.A.E is a neighbour to Israel or not is completely besides the point .

   (And anyway , on the World scale, U.A.E and Israel could indeed be considered to be neighbours)

[Mac Mickmanus]

1 minute ago, candide said:

On top of not being neighbouring, these countries were not in conflict with Israel. No previous conflict => no peace agreement

So what did Trump broker between the U.A.E and Israel ?

What did both Countries sign ?

[candide]

9 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

You know full well it wasn't baseless and the laptop has been authenticated. It is another conspiracy theory that you haven't let go of. There was a reason unqualified Biden jr was being paid vast fortunes by Burisma.

 Getting very tired of seeing conspiracy theories.

It's you who is diffusing baseless conspiracy theories.

[candide]

Just now, Mac Mickmanus said:

So what did Trump broker between the U.A.E and Israel ?

What did both Countries sign ?

It was a cooperation or normalisation agreement, so nice for them. However They did not make peace because they were not in conflict.

An agreement between Israel and parties in conflict, such as Syria, Iran or the Palestinians, could be called a peace agreement, but it Didn't happen.

[Mac Mickmanus]

5 minutes ago, candide said:

It was a cooperation or normalisation agreement, so nice for them. However They did not make peace because they were not in conflict.

An agreement between Israel and parties in conflict, such as Syria, Iran or the Palestinians, could be called a peace agreement, but it Didn't happen.

OK , Trump brokered an agreement between Israel and the U.A.E and prior to that agreement , the U.A.E regarded Israel as being an enemy   and since that Trump brokered agreement was signed, U.A.E no longer regard Israel as being an enemy 

[ozimoron]

6 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

OK , Trump brokered an agreement between Israel and the U.A.E and prior to that agreement , the U.A.E regarded Israel as being an enemy   and since that Trump brokered agreement was signed, U.A.E no longer regard Israel as being an enemy 

It was very low hanging fruit. UAE and Saudi Arabia have long had close cultural ties and both hate Iran as does Israel.

 

I support letting Trump back on Facebook because he's now his own worst enemy since he's a known quantity now. He's got nothing new to say and lost most of his support outside the fringe right wing. If he wins the nomination it will be a classic case of doing the same thing and expecting different results.

[candide]

1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

OK , Trump brokered an agreement between Israel and the U.A.E and prior to that agreement , the U.A.E regarded Israel as being an enemy   and since that Trump brokered agreement was signed, U.A.E no longer regard Israel as being an enemy 

That was long time ago. The cooperation started in 2010. Israel had not been considered as an enemy for years before the normalization agreement.

 

"Israel–United Arab Emirates relations had been jagged and fueled by mutual distrust and hatred for several decades, but in the 2010s, the countries' informal relations improved considerably and they began engaging in extensive unofficial cooperation based on their joint opposition to Iran's nuclear program and regional influence.[1][2] In 2015, Israel opened an official diplomatic mission in Abu Dhabi to the International Renewable Energy Agency.[3][4][5]"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel–United_Arab_Emirates_relations

Edited January 27, 2023 by candide

[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, candide said:

That was long time ago. The cooperation started in 2010. Israel had not been considered as an enemy for years before the normalization agreement.

 

"Israel–United Arab Emirates relations had been jagged and fueled by mutual distrust and hatred for several decades, but in the 2010s, the countries' informal relations improved considerably and they began engaging in extensive unofficial cooperation based on their joint opposition to Iran's nuclear program and regional influence.[1][2] In 2015, Israel opened an official diplomatic mission in Abu Dhabi to the International Renewable Energy Agency.[3][4][5]"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel–United_Arab_Emirates_relations

A bit like brokering a peace deal between Australia and New Zealand. Excluding the Bledisloe Cup.

[Mac Mickmanus]

8 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

A bit like brokering a peace deal between Australia and New Zealand. Excluding the Bledisloe Cup.

Is this a joke or a serious post ?

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Is this a joke or a serious post ?

It's a serious post. An analogy to Trump's achievement in brokering a deal between two non enemies.

[Mac Mickmanus]

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

It's a serious post. An analogy to Trump's achievement in brokering a deal between two non enemies.

There is no comparison between Israel/UAE relations and Australia/New Zealand relations  .

   Completely different situations and incomparable .

Australia and NZ have always accepted each others right to exist and there hasn't been numerous wars in the region 

   Two very different situations 

[Chomper Higgot]

11 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

OK , Trump brokered an agreement between Israel and the U.A.E and prior to that agreement , the U.A.E regarded Israel as being an enemy   and since that Trump brokered agreement was signed, U.A.E no longer regard Israel as being an enemy 

Are you sure.

 

I worked with a number of Israeli software engineers on oil field projects in the UAE (2017-19).

 

If the UAE regarded Israel as an enemy it didn’t seem to cause any problems issuing ‘Oil Field Passes’ to Israeli citizens, let alone running software sourced from Israel on oil production control systems.

 

And it certainly didn’t prevent Israel supplying food products to UAE markets either.

 

Maybe the UAE didn’t regard Israel an ‘enemy’.

 

 

[heybruce]

20 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

You know full well it wasn't baseless and the laptop has been authenticated. It is another conspiracy theory that you haven't let go of. There was a reason unqualified Biden jr was being paid vast fortunes by Burisma.

 Getting very tired of seeing conspiracy theories.

"the laptop has been authenticated"

 

That's funny.  Did someone dispute that it was a laptop?  Did they bring in a laptop expert to say "Yep, that's a laptop."?

 

Thousands of emails, which represent a small fraction of the contents on the hard drive of the laptop, have been verified as authentic emails. 

 

"The vast majority of the data — and most of the nearly 129,000 emails it contained — could not be verified by either of the two security experts who reviewed the data for The Post. Neither found clear evidence of tampering in their examinations, but some of the records that might have helped verify contents were not available for analysis, they said. The Post was able in some instances to find documents from other sources that matched content on the laptop that the experts were not able to assess."   https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/30/hunter-biden-laptop-data-examined/

 

Also, verifying the emails are authentic does not verify that everything stated on the emails is true.

[heybruce]

12 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

I did mean neighbouring Countries , think that it was U.A.E and a few other Countries , which can be found if you can be bothered doing a websearch, as I cannot be bothered 

 

Was there a raging war between these countries before Trump?

 

Since you won't answer, I will.  No, there wasn't.  That means that the situation in the MidEast regarding Israel is no more peaceful now than before.

[Mac Mickmanus]

3 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Was there a raging war between these countries before Trump?

 

Since you won't answer, I will.  No, there wasn't.  

I wasn't asked that question , that's why I "wont answer"  that question ,because no one asked it 

[heybruce]

44 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

I wasn't asked that question , that's why I "wont answer"  that question ,because no one asked it 

You posted "Trump also Bought peace to Israel and some of its neighbours".

 

The region is no more or less peaceful than it was before Trump.  So how did he bring peace?

[Mac Mickmanus]

1 minute ago, heybruce said:

You posted "Trump also Bought peace to Israel and some of its neighbours".

 

The region is no more or less peaceful than it was before Trump.  So how did he bring peace?

By brokering peace deals/agreements  between Israel and numerous of its neighbours

[heybruce]

1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

By brokering peace deals/agreements  between Israel and numerous of its neighbours

Peace deals between nations that were not fighting, and nothing to stop the violence between Palestinians and Israelis.  Why do you think that's a big accomplishment?