Special counsel shows signs of ramping up Trump investigation

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15 minutes ago, dotcalm said:

Maybe McCarthy signed up FOX and Tucker to distribute the J6 security videos as a gift, a gesture of sorts to the FOX and Tucker haters. It is peculiar that McCarthy elected this method to release the J6 security videos. It's like he's rubbing it in the lefts face, and the non FOX, Tucker Carlson aficionados of the world

 

And Tucker lies, by his own admission:

https://news.yahoo.com/tucker-carlson-admits-lies-show-120821690.html

 

But who cares if Tucker lies, its not about that, it's about revealing the video evidence of J6, for all to see, finally.

We should all thank FOX News and Tucker Carlson and of course KM.

How naive can you be? "the video evidence". There are 41000 hours of video evidence. Given Carlson's past record, why would anyone believe that he will edit those videos in an honest way?

[heybruce]

15 minutes ago, dotcalm said:

Maybe McCarthy signed up FOX and Tucker to distribute the J6 security videos as a gift, a gesture of sorts to the FOX and Tucker haters. It is peculiar that McCarthy elected this method to release the J6 security videos. It's like he's rubbing it in the lefts face, and the non FOX, Tucker Carlson aficionados of the world

 

And Tucker lies, by his own admission:

https://news.yahoo.com/tucker-carlson-admits-lies-show-120821690.html

 

But who cares if Tucker lies, its not about that, it's about revealing the video evidence of J6, for all to see, finally.

We should all thank FOX News and Tucker Carlson and of course KM.

Kevin McCarthy ignores the security concerns of the Capitol Police and gives 40,000 hours of security video to a confessed liar, and you think that's a good way to get at the truth?

 

I'm at a loss for comments that stay within forum rules.

[candide]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

How naive can you be? "the video evidence". There are 41000 hours of video evidence. Given Carlson's past record, why would anyone believe that he will edit those videos in an honest way?

Actually that's exactly the reason why McCarthy gave the footage to Carlson. He is certain that it will be presented in a very dishonest way.

[dotcalm]

1 hour ago, candide said:

Actually that's exactly the reason why McCarthy gave the footage to Carlson. He is certain that it will be presented in a very dishonest way.

if I was a betting person, I'd bet that Trump has the J6 video collection too, by now.

It matters not who releases it as much as the significance of the video evidence. Tucker is obviously light years ahead of the msm subordinates, especially CNN and maybe he's the go to guy for objectivity and will report it and not cover it up. thank you FOX News and Tucker, I look forward to the J6 videos and all they may reveal. A good day for democracy.

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40 minutes ago, dotcalm said:

if I was a betting person, I'd bet that Trump has the J6 video collection too, by now.

It matters not who releases it as much as the significance of the video evidence. Tucker is obviously light years ahead of the msm subordinates, especially CNN and maybe he's the go to guy for objectivity and will report it and not cover it up. thank you FOX News and Tucker, I look forward to the J6 videos and all they may reveal. A good day for democracy.

Given that we have ironclad proof that he supported claims about the election that he knew were false, why would any rational person believe that he would honestly present the evidence?

[dotcalm]

2 hours ago, placeholder said:

Given that we have ironclad proof that he supported claims about the election that he knew were false, why would any rational person believe that he would honestly present the evidence?

I'll make it as simple as possible: it matters not what Tucker Carlson, or FOX news says or does about anything, what matters is the content contained within the 40,000 hours of "evidence" not seen yet by the public. That is the issue that the left is concerned about, the truth being revealed. FOX News, Tucker Carlson DID NOT make the J6 videos, they have been chosen by the House leader McCartney to release them to the public. Fox News cannot change the videos, nor can Tucker Carlson, they can only claim the fame attached to revealing the truth to the American public for all that transpired during Jan 6 2021. They have been entrusted for good reason, not CNN, MSNBC and others.

 

Damn, it's going to be refreshing to see the evidence, the actual video evidence that does not lie.

 

Democracy is served well by GOP McCarthy, FOX News and Tucker Carlson revealing the video evidence for truth seeking Americans.

Stop trying to make this about FOX news and Tucker Carlson and let the evidence speak now. The left will maybe learn a good lesson here and cooperate to bring the facts and evidence into the public domain. The fact that FOX News and Tucker have been afforded this responsibility will be welcomed by all truth seekers and could put any J6 misconceptions to rest.

 

You only want to hide or cover something up if you truly have something to hide you don't want the people to know. The GOP and FOX News can put this right for all to see. Thanks to the all the great efforts of Fox News and GOP in their quest for transparency.

Edited February 24, 2023 by dotcalm

[ozimoron]

9 minutes ago, dotcalm said:

I'll make it as simple as possible: it matters not what Tucker Carlson, or FOX news says or does about anything, what matters is the content contained within the 40,000 hours of "evidence" not seen yet by the public. That is the issue that the left is concerned about, the truth being revealed. FOX News, Tucker Carlson DID NOT make the J6 videos, they have been chosen by the House leader McCartney to release them to the public. Fox News cannot change the videos, nor can Tucker Carlson, they can only claim the fame attached to revealing the truth to the American public for all that transpired during Jan 6 2021. They have been entrusted for good reason, not CNN, MSNBC and others.

 

Damn, it's going to be refreshing to see the evidence, the actual video evidence that does not lie.

 

Democracy is served well by GOP McCarthy, FOX News and Tucker Carlson revealing the video evidence for truth seeking Americans.

Stop trying to make this about FOX news and Tucker Carlson and let the evidence speak now. The left will maybe learn a good lesson here and cooperate to bring the facts and evidence into the public domain. The fact that FOX News and Tucker have been afforded this responsibility will be welcomed by all truth seekers and could put any J6 misconceptions to rest.

 

You only want to hide or cover something up if you truly have something to hide you don't want the people to know. The GOP and FOX News can put this right for all to see. Thanks to the all the great efforts of Fox News and GOP in their quest for transparency.

Their past modus operandi is to take parts of sentences without context and present them in a misleading way. Why would we expect this time to be any different with the video?

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42 minutes ago, dotcalm said:

I'll make it as simple as possible: it matters not what Tucker Carlson, or FOX news says or does about anything, what matters is the content contained within the 40,000 hours of "evidence" not seen yet by the public. That is the issue that the left is concerned about, the truth being revealed. FOX News, Tucker Carlson DID NOT make the J6 videos, they have been chosen by the House leader McCartney to release them to the public. Fox News cannot change the videos, nor can Tucker Carlson, they can only claim the fame attached to revealing the truth to the American public for all that transpired during Jan 6 2021. They have been entrusted for good reason, not CNN, MSNBC and others.

 

Damn, it's going to be refreshing to see the evidence, the actual video evidence that does not lie.

 

Democracy is served well by GOP McCarthy, FOX News and Tucker Carlson revealing the video evidence for truth seeking Americans.

Stop trying to make this about FOX news and Tucker Carlson and let the evidence speak now. The left will maybe learn a good lesson here and cooperate to bring the facts and evidence into the public domain. The fact that FOX News and Tucker have been afforded this responsibility will be welcomed by all truth seekers and could put any J6 misconceptions to rest.

 

You only want to hide or cover something up if you truly have something to hide you don't want the people to know. The GOP and FOX News can put this right for all to see. Thanks to the all the great efforts of Fox News and GOP in their quest for transparency.

If the speaker of the house was truly interested in getting the truth out, then he would make these videos available to several different media sources so that one party's version wouldn't be accepted as final.

As you clearly don't know, project veritas, has been sued successfully several times for cutting innocent comments in such a way as to make them isound like confessions to midseeds.

Your understanding of how this works is extraordinarily naive.

And finally, how many times have we heard from the extreme right that there's going to be an expose to expose some scandal or other and it never happens?

How election fraud was going to be busted wide open? Or how the Durham investigation was going to expose a cabal in the justice department that was out to destroy Trump?

I have no doubt that the extreme right ring is salivating over an imminent expose of how the deep state was actually behind the invasion of the capitol building.. and how once again it will ultimately come to nothing.

[pomchop]

What's next? Trump if ever goes to trial will be offering big bucks and free cheeseburgers for life if just one juror refuses to convict him.....then he will crow like a rooster that it was all a big witch hunt and all of his actions were totally perfect....and his kool aide coup crew will cheer.  Similar to OJ trial that regardless of massive amounts of evidence a couple of jurors had already decided that they would not convict their "hero" of the double murder no matter that there was nothing even approaching reasonable doubt for anyone with an IQ in triple digits or a shred of integrity.

[Chomper Higgot]

9 hours ago, pomchop said:

What's next? Trump if ever goes to trial will be offering big bucks and free cheeseburgers for life if just one juror refuses to convict him.....then he will crow like a rooster that it was all a big witch hunt and all of his actions were totally perfect....and his kool aide coup crew will cheer.  Similar to OJ trial that regardless of massive amounts of evidence a couple of jurors had already decided that they would not convict their "hero" of the double murder no matter that there was nothing even approaching reasonable doubt for anyone with an IQ in triple digits or a shred of integrity.

The switch in full view.

 

From ,’Trump will never be indicted’ to ‘Trump will never be convicted’.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

10 hours ago, dotcalm said:

I'll make it as simple as possible: it matters not what Tucker Carlson, or FOX news says or does about anything, what matters is the content contained within the 40,000 hours of "evidence" not seen yet by the public. That is the issue that the left is concerned about, the truth being revealed. FOX News, Tucker Carlson DID NOT make the J6 videos, they have been chosen by the House leader McCartney to release them to the public. Fox News cannot change the videos, nor can Tucker Carlson, they can only claim the fame attached to revealing the truth to the American public for all that transpired during Jan 6 2021. They have been entrusted for good reason, not CNN, MSNBC and others.

 

Damn, it's going to be refreshing to see the evidence, the actual video evidence that does not lie.

 

Democracy is served well by GOP McCarthy, FOX News and Tucker Carlson revealing the video evidence for truth seeking Americans.

Stop trying to make this about FOX news and Tucker Carlson and let the evidence speak now. The left will maybe learn a good lesson here and cooperate to bring the facts and evidence into the public domain. The fact that FOX News and Tucker have been afforded this responsibility will be welcomed by all truth seekers and could put any J6 misconceptions to rest.

 

You only want to hide or cover something up if you truly have something to hide you don't want the people to know. The GOP and FOX News can put this right for all to see. Thanks to the all the great efforts of Fox News and GOP in their quest for transparency.

Here’s what Tucker Carlson:

 

"On Monday, Carlson claimed that some of the footage appears to contradict "the story that we've been told for more than two years," 

 

That’s a long way away from being evidence.

 

It’s little more than Carlson inviting his audience (self selected for a pro-Trump bias) to believe ‘some of the footage’ ‘contradicts’ the evidence tge public have already been presented with.

 

“some of”

”Appears to”

”The story we’ve been told”.

 

Peddling false hopes and conspiracy to those gullible s who have subcontracted their rationality to FOX.

 

See y’all in court, under oath and under threat of penalty for perjury.

 

 

 

[pomchop]

23 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The switch in full view.

 

From ,’Trump will never be indicted’ to ‘Trump will never be convicted’.

 

 

Who knows maybe a jury will somehow avoid all the pressure that will surely follow them along with death threats.bribe attempts,  etc and follow the evidence which seems to be bountifully in supply...much of which is in trumps own words, videos and actions.

[vandeventer]

On 2/20/2023 at 2:34 PM, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s a little early to book a party guys, but keep the idea in mind.

There will be no party by this Kangaroo court. In the  end Mr. Trump will get off free of all charges and the J6 committee will have to explain to the American people the millions of dollars they spent on this witch hunt.

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6 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

There will be no party by this Kangaroo court. In the  end Mr. Trump will get off free of all charges and the J6 committee will have to explain to the American people the millions of dollars they spent on this witch hunt.

Thank you for your thoughtful analysis of the legal issues facing Donald Trump. Once again, you have conclusively demonstrated that you are definitely not an oblivious cheerleader for the former President.. At least, that's the view from Opposite World.

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[ozimoron]

11 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

There will be no party by this Kangaroo court. In the  end Mr. Trump will get off free of all charges and the J6 committee will have to explain to the American people the millions of dollars they spent on this witch hunt.

Just like they had to explain the millions of dollars spent investigating the Whitewater "scam" for 7 years?

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2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Just like they had to explain the millions of dollars spent investigating the Whitewater "scam" for 7 years?

Why go back that far? Just look at the fiasco that was the Durham investigation. Right wingers were sure that it would bust open the machinations of the DEEP  STATE against the Trump administration. It failed utterly to do that.

[Chomper Higgot]

33 minutes ago, pomchop said:

Who knows maybe a jury will somehow avoid all the pressure that will surely follow them along with death threats.bribe attempts,  etc and follow the evidence which seems to be bountifully in supply...much of which is in trumps own words, videos and actions.

Yeh Yeh.

 

He’s going to get away with it all.

 

Same same.

[ozimoron]

15 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Why go back that far? Just look at the fiasco that was the Durham investigation. Right wingers were sure that it would bust open the machinations of the DEEP  STATE against the Trump administration. It failed utterly to do that.

Benghazi!

[Chomper Higgot]

41 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

There will be no party by this Kangaroo court. In the  end Mr. Trump will get off free of all charges and the J6 committee will have to explain to the American people the millions of dollars they spent on this witch hunt.

Separate two things.

 

Congressional J6 investigation, essentially a political process to inform the public that has no sentencing authority.

 

DoJ investigation, a process of criminal Justice, that has the purpose of placing criminal indictments before the courts which in turn absolutely do have sentencing authority.

[dotcalm]

On 2/25/2023 at 3:34 AM, vandeventer said:

There will be no party by this Kangaroo court. In the  end Mr. Trump will get off free of all charges and the J6 committee will have to explain to the American people the millions of dollars they spent on this witch hunt.

There's no evidence of any crimes committed by Trump...PERIOD. Even process crimes against anyone will be a stretch.

[ozimoron]

3 minutes ago, dotcalm said:

There's no evidence of any crimes committed by Trump...PERIOD. Even process crimes against anyone will be a stretch.

yeah, whatever.

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24 minutes ago, dotcalm said:

There's no evidence of any crimes committed by Trump...PERIOD. Even process crimes against anyone will be a stretch.

Lying about the continued possession of unauthorized documents is clearly grounds for an obstruction of justice charge.

[dotcalm]

11 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Lying about the continued possession of unauthorized documents is clearly grounds for an obstruction of justice charge.

Process crime, meh, not going anywhere with that. Biden though, OTOH, was illegally in possession of classified materials dating back to his days as senator. So, yeah, maybe indict them both, (Trump & Biden).

You agree that would be fair?

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Just now, dotcalm said:

Process crime, meh, not going anywhere with that. Biden though, OTOH, was illegally in possession of classified materials dating back to his days as senator. So, yeah, maybe indict them both, (Trump & Biden).

You agree that would be fair?

Fairness doesn't enter into it.

It's only a crime if you willfully withhold those documents. No evidence that Biden did so. Evidence overwhelming that Trump did.

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Biden's comment came after the investigation turned up those documents. It is not proof at all that he knew that he was in possession of them all along. Try again.

And, no, POTUS doesn't have a right to materials declassified or otherwise. Even if declassified, they still have to be stored securely.  They are still considered sensitive. And Trump's claim that he declassified them prior to leaving office, even though not relevant, is dubious. For the months his lawyers negotiated with NARA they never contended that such was the case. And then, suddenly, out of the blue, came his claim. Laughable.

[dotcalm]

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Biden's comment came after the investigation turned up those documents. It is not proof at all that he knew that he was in possession of them all along. Try again.

And, no, POTUS doesn't have a right to materials declassified or otherwise. Even if declassified, they still have to be stored securely.  They are still considered sensitive. And Trump's claim that he declassified them prior to leaving office, even though not relevant, is dubious. For the months his lawyers negotiated with NARA they never contended that such was the case. And then, suddenly, out of the blue, came his claim. Laughable.

it's all laughable. Probably Trump is laughing at the lefties, the DoJ/FBI, spinning their wheels trying to finish him off and put a dent in MAGA. The persecution of Trump has failed at every instance, even the Georgia G jury has morphed into a <deleted>-show, humiliation.

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Just now, dotcalm said:

it's all laughable. Probably Trump is laughing at the lefties, the DoJ/FBI, spinning their wheels trying to finish him off and put a dent in MAGA. The persecution of Trump has failed at every instance, even the Georgia G jury has morphed into a <deleted>-show, humiliation.

It's always a mark of desperation when someone reverts to empty taunts instead of providing actual evidence.

[dotcalm]

4 minutes ago, placeholder said:

It's always a mark of desperation when someone reverts to empty taunts instead of providing actual evidence.

The only hint of desperation comes from the democrats and their weaponized police and DoJ. They are desperate to stop Trump for a reason, any guess why they fear Trump so much and need to attack, persecute him instead of leaving him alone, to golf and spend his billions?? Why is that? Do the dems fear his 2024 election victory?

[dotcalm]

Inside House Republicans’ Plan to Investigate Hunter Biden as a 'National Security Threat'

https://time.com/6218879/hunter-biden-investigations-james-comer-house-republicans/

 

Don't see any planned investigations into Trump's sphere in the vein of being a "national security threat"

 

Give it a rest, stop with the 2 tiers of justice, go investigate real crimes and stop the persecution  of the most investigated and never charged politician in American history. American's have more and bigger issues to manage.