Has the "Ukrainien-Fewer" reached Thailand?

[BritManToo]

16 minutes ago, Tropposurfer said:

If Putin had the capacity within his army to take Ukraine he would have managed that in short order post invasion a year ago.

He didn't. Why?

Because his troops are poorly trained, veery poorly equipped, and poorly led. Unmotivated at best.

The Ukrainians on the other hand showed their battle mettle and drove then back over large areas of the nation, despite being almost straight to the lines from office and other civilian jobs, and with little equipment in those first vital months of holding lines and denying easy gains to Russia. 

You could same about the Americans Vs the Afgans, and the Americans Vs the Vietnamese.

Well trained high tech Vs desperate low tech isn't a foregone conclusion.

[userabcd]

17 hours ago, swissie said:

Cutting down Social Security benefits is a trend that has started. Not only in France. But sending money to the ever growing community to "failed states" is on the upswing.

- The most FINANCIAL help for the Ukraine has come from 3 countries. The US, Germany and FRANCE. Under these condidions, I wonder how long it will be before the French will put their "Guillotines" back into action.

Financial aid to Ukraine Billions of USD:

 

United States 47.819

EU Institutions 34.993

United Kingdom 7.082

Germany 5.445

Canada 3.784

Poland 3.000

France 1.415

Norway 1.210

Netherlands 0.848

Sweden 0.806

Italy 0.672

Denmark 0.642

Japan 0.606

Czech Republic 0.586

Austria etc...

 

Edited February 24, 2023 by userabcd

[ignore it]

Asked the Thai wife.

She said Thai don't think about Russia war. Not on TV news.

She also said the Russia young guy is good renter and if he friend don't want war he can come rent the other condo.

[jdlancaster]

Lol at the Russian tankies. Russia isn’t coming out well in this… logistics nightmare after nightmare. NATO sending mostly soon to be obsolete prepositioned stock that was exclusively meant to be used against Russia anyways. NATO gets to let Ukraine whittle down Russia capabilities. 
 

Nato isn’t an artillery centered force and so not set up logistically to support Ukraine this way. Not a major issue for defense. Russian supply lines are a joke… train based and can’t use European rail lol… in Paris lol… no. They struggle past 30km from the border 55555
 

Russia is just speeding up what was already a slowly approaching demographic crisis. 
 

NATO won big here for cheap. It woke up the EU military industrial complex. Russia paid dearly for a small amount of land and no major strategic objectives. Ukraine has a chance to reclaim some land… but at what cost. 

[NoshowJones]

On 2/22/2023 at 11:32 AM, userabcd said:

List of wars around the world the USA has participated in, it seems the US has never stopped being in a war.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_States

 

Given their penchant for participating in global countries wars it seems strange that they have not actively entered into this war at the invitation of Ukraine.

 

Surely the UK must be at the top of the tree when it comes to wars, note Churchill, the British Empire??

Britain ruled over two thirds of the world only 100 years ago. the only time the British were the goodies was in two world wars against Germany.

[BritManToo]

9 minutes ago, NoshowJones said:

Surely the UK must be at the top of the tree when it comes to wars, note Churchill, the British Empire??

Britain ruled over two thirds of the world only 100 years ago. the only time the British were the goodies was in two world wars against Germany.

We were always the goodies, bringing civilisation to the rest of the world (whether they wanted it or not).

[NoshowJones]

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

We were always the goodies, bringing civilisation to the rest of the world (whether they wanted it or not).

and what is good about that? Unless a country is affected, it should keep out of other countries business.

[BritManToo]

7 minutes ago, NoshowJones said:

and what is good about that? Unless a country is affected, it should keep out of other countries business.

But it's OK for the WHO and UN to interfere.

[NoshowJones]

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

But it's OK for the WHO and UN to interfere.

Is it?

[onthedarkside]

Unapproved video from Scott Ritter is not a credible source even in the community pub section

[ozimoron]

7 hours ago, ignore it said:

Asked the Thai wife.

She said Thai don't think about Russia war. Not on TV news.

She also said the Russia young guy is good renter and if he friend don't want war he can come rent the other condo.

Yes it is.

[Mac Mickmanus]

4 hours ago, NoshowJones said:

Surely the UK must be at the top of the tree when it comes to wars, note Churchill, the British Empire??

Britain ruled over two thirds of the world only 100 years ago. the only time the British were the goodies was in two world wars against Germany.

Going to war isn't the same thing as colonisation 

[Thai Visa Member 999999]

On 2/21/2023 at 10:39 AM, tomazbodner said:

Washing machines being most popular... what is it with Russians and washing machines???

You ever done laundry by hand? It's enough to make you declare war on your neighbor, commit war crimes and loot the country of its washing machines.

 

One hopes that one day the Russian elite put Putin through the wringer. I'd love to see a Qaddafi -style end given his fear of homosexuals.

[observer90210]

On 2/22/2023 at 5:55 PM, mikebike said:

Wow. That's a lot. 

First 5 paragraphs seem to show a naivete of how governments work. They are biased towards the power, money, and influence - of course there will always be money for the military over citizens needs. 

 

In the sixth paragraph you don't seem understand international trade or supply and demand. By letting the Chinese refine the gas rather than doing it domestically Russia helps balance it's trade deficit with China. Gas and oil prices were going up after Russia invaded whether it was USA or Martians selling it. 

I just wish to welcome you ...to ma ignore liste....????

[Danderman123]

On 2/21/2023 at 10:59 PM, still kicking said:

Yes, most thais in small cities don't even know where the Ukraine is. 

I took 2 Thai ladies to stay in Ukraine during Covid.

 

They don't know where Ukraine is.

[Danderman123]

16 hours ago, BritManToo said:

You could same about the Americans Vs the Afgans, and the Americans Vs the Vietnamese.

Well trained high tech Vs desperate low tech isn't a foregone conclusion.

You ignore motivation.

 

Afghans and Vietnamese were motivated to fight for their country. Iraqis were not motivated to fight for Saddam.

 

Conscripted Russians don't have great motivation.

[Danderman123]

On 2/23/2023 at 9:25 PM, swissie said:

Yep. No matter what the Ukraine or we do, it will always be 10:1 in favor of the Russians. The Donbas and the Crimea will remain Russian. In the Donbas most people speak Russian and feel Russian. The Crimea was Russian Territory since Katharina the great. Given as a gift to the Ukraine by Nikita Chrustschow in 1954.

That is the best the Ukraine can hope for.

 

To regain all "the lost" terrain is an Ukrainian illusion. Only bringing us nearer to the 3rd WW.

some actual information:

 

around the eastern border of Ukraine, there is a fairly large area that is culturally Ukrainian and Russian. The farther east, the more Russian, but even in Voronezh, there is Ukrainian cultural influence. And there is Russian influence in Ukraine at least as far west as the Dnipro river. its a continuum. That will probably end within a generation.

 

There was a good argument to be made about Crimea back in the day, but Russia forfeited its position when it invaded in 2014.

 

 

[BananaStrong]

16 hours ago, userabcd said:

Financial aid to Ukraine Billions of USD:

 

United States 47.819

America is always Number 1.  always, yet they still get a bad rap.

 

If I was 10, I would say, "Give that money to the homeless!'  But I'm not 10.

Maybe build low-income housing with that money................maybe

or food..............yes.  use it to get the homeless fed. 

 

hold on, the internet says only like 500,000 are homeless in America.  I haven't been back in 10-years.  I guessed that number was like 5,000,000.   It's NOT 500k, but who knows.

 

OK, use that money to get better cops.     maybe I'll go that route.  

[thaibeachlovers]

On 2/24/2023 at 2:04 PM, Dcheech said:

You have the floor. Where in LOS have you spotted Ukranian Fever? All Ears.

Shouldn't that be "all eyes"?

 

Far as I'm concerned, Thais are not daft enough to get caught up with something that's no concern of theirs. They are leaving it up to farangs to post about it on here.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 2/25/2023 at 12:39 AM, NoshowJones said:

Surely the UK must be at the top of the tree when it comes to wars, note Churchill, the British Empire??

Britain ruled over two thirds of the world only 100 years ago. the only time the British were the goodies was in two world wars against Germany.

Make that WW2, The first time was an atrocity against humanity that slaughtered the pride of British youth for no good reason ( I refer to the war itself as being for no good reason ). Millions sacrificed for the Great Game played by old men.

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

On 2/24/2023 at 11:34 PM, jdlancaster said:

NATO won big here for cheap. It woke up the EU military industrial complex. Russia paid dearly for a small amount of land and no major strategic objectives. Ukraine has a chance to reclaim some land… but at what cost. 

Going by the American military industrial complex, Europe may come to regret that.

Even Eisenhower warned against it.

[Dcheech]

39 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Far as I'm concerned, Thais are not daft enough to get caught up with something that's no concern of theirs. They are leaving it up to farangs to post about it on here.

So no Ukranian Fever in Thailand. Swissie will be so happy. Not really news though is it.

[Joebuzzz]

On 2/21/2023 at 10:54 PM, Jingthing said:

Yeah but have you noticed that many young Russians are saying NYET and voting with their feet (that's the only real vote they have). 

That's because no Russian has the guts to off their deranged "leader".  They're cowards running away.

[3NUMBAS]

cannon fodder comes from the poor siberian regions which has been shown on bbc and sky news...large numbers of dead males from siberian areas but few from moscow areas

[3NUMBAS]

think it was krushchev who gave em crimea on a long lease now vlad has changed his mind on leasing ideas

[3NUMBAS]

35 minutes ago, Joebuzzz said:

That's because no Russian has the guts to off their deranged "leader".  They're cowards running away.

they cant they will be bumped off for even thinking otherwise

[jdlancaster]

On 2/26/2023 at 4:48 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

Going by the American military industrial complex, Europe may come to regret that.

Even Eisenhower warned against it.

Maybe, lol.... but it surely sucks for Russia lol.... and their collection of apologists and tankies lol...