US Capitol Police chief rips into Tucker Carlson over ‘offensive’ use of January 6 footage

[Hawaiian]

14 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

The coroner didn't "imply" that the riot played a role. The coroner's report said so.

 

"The District of Columbia chief medical examiner found that Sicknick had died from stroke, classifying his death as natural^[a] and additionally commented that "all that transpired played a role in his condition."

 

Also:

 

"Brian Sicknick's death was investigated by the Metropolitan Police Department's Homicide Branch, the USCP, and the FBI.^[7] On March 14, Julian Khater and George Tanios were arrested for assaulting Sicknick with a chemical spray and for other charges.^[11] ... On January 28, 2023, Khater was sentenced to seven years in prison.^{[1][13][14][15]}

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Brian_Sicknick

 

I am not going to get into a discussion with you over semantics.

[Phoenix Rising]

12 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

I am not going to get into a discussion with you over semantics.

To (correctly) say that something was said outright when you claimed it was implied isn't discussing semantics, it's pointing out a factual error. 

[vandeventer]

2 hours ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Traitors trying to overturn democracy. Was that clear and concise enough for you?

You do mean free Americans not wanting Marxism?

[ozimoron]

19 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

You do mean free Americans not wanting Marxism?

Is getting rid of the marxists more important than democracy?

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26 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

You do mean free Americans not wanting Marxism?

Can you offer some examples of recent Marxist legislation in the USA? Exactly how is green legislation Marxist? Is climatology part of the Marxist agenda? I know that Stephen Colbert once playing that reality has a literal bias. Apparently, now it has a Marxist one?

Edited March 8, 2023 by placeholder

[LosLobo]

9 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Democrats speaking in opposites again. The whole footage shows the Q Shaman was politely escorted and guided through the capitol by police. Another false narrative about Q Anon shamen storming the capitol and leading an insurrection bites the dust. Time to arrest the Jan 6th committee and charge them with deliberately withholding evidence that proves the accused to be innocent. Lying is bad. Lying for 2 years and holding farcical show trials they knew were nonsense is a new low in the left's dishonesty - although totally unsurprising after they refused to release footage(nothing to hide, nothing to fear?) Sad so many were taken in by the insurrection narrative.

 

"Virtually every moment of his time inside the Capitol was caught on tape,” says Carlson, who was granted exclusive access by Speaker Kevin McCarthy to 40,000 hours of surveillance footage from that day inside and around the Capitol, which has never been seen before by the public.

“The tapes show the Capitol police never stopped Jacob Chansley. They helped him. They acted as his tour guides.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/jan-6-footage-shows-capitol-cops-escorting-qanon-shaman-to-senate-floor/ar-AA18iDE3

Fox admits that "no reasonable viewer takes Tucker Carlson seriously" yet you have used his quotes  as evidence to support your post. ????

 

Fox Wins McDougal Case, Argues No One Takes Tucker Carlson Seriously (businessinsider.com)

 

Edited March 8, 2023 by LosLobo

[SunnyinBangrak]

2 hours ago, Phoenix Rising said:

'Bulls---': GOP senators rebuke Tucker Carlson for downplaying Jan. 6 as 'mostly peaceful'

 

"At a GOP leadership news conference, McConnell, R-Ky., said he wanted to align himself with the letter sent to the U.S. Capitol Police force by Capitol Police Chief Thomas Manger, who denounced Carlson for spreading “offensive and misleading conclusions” about the insurrection on Jan. 6, 2021, including a “disturbing accusation” that Officer Brian Sicknick’s death had nothing to do with the riot.

"I want to associate myself entirely with the opinion of the chief and the Capitol Police about what happened on Jan. 6," McConnell said as he held up a copy of the letter. "It was a mistake, in my view, for Fox News to depict this in a way that’s completely at variance with what our chief law enforcement official here at the Capitol thinks.”"

Quote "Police Chief Thomas Manger, who denounced Carlson for spreading “offensive and misleading conclusions” about the insurrection on Jan. 6, 2021, including a “disturbing accusation” that Officer Brian Sicknick’s death had nothing to do with the riot."

 

Did this police chief find the false narrative that MAGA rioters bashed him over the head with a fire extinguisher offensive and misleading one wonders? A version of events that proved most fortuitous and that some find hard to let go of.

 

"While chief medical examiner Francisco Diaz said that the events of Jan. 6 "played a role in his condition" that resulted in Sicknick's death, the findings are still a bold departure from claims reported by The New York Times back in January that the officer had been "struck with a fire extinguisher" by the pro-Trump rioters. "

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-brian-sicknick-stroke

[onthedarkside]

Off topic post attempting to hijack the the thread into the Ukraine war has been removed along with replies

[candide]

18 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Quote "Police Chief Thomas Manger, who denounced Carlson for spreading “offensive and misleading conclusions” about the insurrection on Jan. 6, 2021, including a “disturbing accusation” that Officer Brian Sicknick’s death had nothing to do with the riot."

 

Did this police chief find the false narrative that MAGA rioters bashed him over the head with a fire extinguisher offensive and misleading one wonders? A version of events that proved most fortuitous and that some find hard to let go of.

 

"While chief medical examiner Francisco Diaz said that the events of Jan. 6 "played a role in his condition" that resulted in Sicknick's death, the findings are still a bold departure from claims reported by The New York Times back in January that the officer had been "struck with a fire extinguisher" by the pro-Trump rioters. "

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-brian-sicknick-stroke

And the NYT did retract it.

https://thepostmillennial.com/nyt-issues-correction-of-story-claiming-capitol-police-officer-bludgeoned-to-death-with-fire-extinguisher

 

BTW, you just contradicted your previous claim that it was a peaceful visit! ????

Nice video!

Video shows Capitol rioter hit officer with fire extinguisher

https://nypost.com/2021/01/11/video-shows-capitol-rioter-hit-officer-with-fire-extinguisher/

 

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

23 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Quote "Police Chief Thomas Manger, who denounced Carlson for spreading “offensive and misleading conclusions” about the insurrection on Jan. 6, 2021, including a “disturbing accusation” that Officer Brian Sicknick’s death had nothing to do with the riot."

 

Did this police chief find the false narrative that MAGA rioters bashed him over the head with a fire extinguisher offensive and misleading one wonders? A version of events that proved most fortuitous and that some find hard to let go of.

 

"While chief medical examiner Francisco Diaz said that the events of Jan. 6 "played a role in his condition" that resulted in Sicknick's death, the findings are still a bold departure from claims reported by The New York Times back in January that the officer had been "struck with a fire extinguisher" by the pro-Trump rioters. "

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-brian-sicknick-stroke

"A version of events that proved most fortuitous and that some find hard to let go of."

 

Who exactly is finding it hard to let go after the tapes and autopsy?

 

[mikebike]

9 hours ago, vandeventer said:

Lets see it all, we can make up are own minds of what happen. The truth may open some eyes. What are the Dems. worried about?

Dems? There's a reason it was given to *ucker. And that's not to protect Dem ???? Every "dem" I know wants all the footage available to the public. Why does it have to be filtered thru *ucker? 

[vandeventer]

54 minutes ago, mikebike said:

Dems? There's a reason it was given to *ucker. And that's not to protect Dem ???? Every "dem" I know wants all the footage available to the public. Why does it have to be filtered thru *ucker? 

The Dems. had every chance to release the footage when they held the house but they didn't do it. Why because they know it's made up BS just like the Russia, Russia, Russia. If you don't want Tucker to filter it I am sure Mr. Trump would gladly do it.

[Phoenix Rising]

3 hours ago, vandeventer said:

You do mean free Americans not wanting Marxism?

No I don't, and I have a distinct feeling you couldn't accurately define Marxism even if The Communist Manifesto written by Karl Marx himself fell on your head from a great height.

 

[Phoenix Rising]

2 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Quote "Police Chief Thomas Manger, who denounced Carlson for spreading “offensive and misleading conclusions” about the insurrection on Jan. 6, 2021, including a “disturbing accusation” that Officer Brian Sicknick’s death had nothing to do with the riot."

 

Did this police chief find the false narrative that MAGA rioters bashed him over the head with a fire extinguisher offensive and misleading one wonders? A version of events that proved most fortuitous and that some find hard to let go of.

 

"While chief medical examiner Francisco Diaz said that the events of Jan. 6 "played a role in his condition" that resulted in Sicknick's death, the findings are still a bold departure from claims reported by The New York Times back in January that the officer had been "struck with a fire extinguisher" by the pro-Trump rioters. "

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-brian-sicknick-stroke

Quoting an opinion piece in Fox "News" (you know, the channel that knew the election was not stolen but didn't say so because they're a filthy bunch of liars) as an argument??

Ok then........

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3 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

No I don't, and I have a distinct feeling you couldn't accurately define Marxism even if The Communist Manifesto written by Karl Marx himself fell on your head from a great height.

 

The invocation of Marxism is a strictly Pavlovian conditioned reflex amongst right wingers. It has no connection to the higher centers of thought. Which is why there's no explanation forthcoming.

[LosLobo]

1 hour ago, vandeventer said:

The Dems. had every chance to release the footage when they held the house but they didn't do it. Why because they know it's made up BS just like the Russia, Russia, Russia. If you don't want Tucker to filter it I am sure Mr. Trump would gladly do it.

Suggest you give up being a FoxNews foollower and get your facts from somewhere else more reliable.

 

By the way, Russian collusion was not BS!

 

Mueller did find evidence that the 2016 Trump Campaign did commit collusion and that Trump committed obstruction.

 

Manafort of 2016 Trump Campaign admitted collusion with the Russians last year.

 

Andrew Weissman: New Unredacted Memo From Trump DOJ Officials Is ‘A Doozy’ - YouTube

 

Paul Manafort Exclusive: I Gave Trump Campaign Polling Data to Russian Associate (businessinsider.com)

 

 

Edited March 8, 2023 by LosLobo

[vandeventer]

14 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

No I don't, and I have a distinct feeling you couldn't accurately define Marxism even if The Communist Manifesto written by Karl Marx himself fell on your head from a great height.

 

Why define Marxism America is living in it but only for another 2 years that's if Biden remains in power.

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11 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

Why define Marxism America is living in it but only for another 2 years that's if Biden remains in power.

In other words you haven't a clue.

[Phoenix Rising]

35 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

Why define Marxism America is living in it but only for another 2 years that's if Biden remains in power.

Wow, pure hyperbole AND missing a question mark, a comma and a full stop. Well done!

[Slip]

Thanks to all sensibly thinking people for the abject smack down that the magas and crazy right have received on this thread.  Long may it continue, these people are loonies here and in the wild.

Edited March 8, 2023 by Slip
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[herfiehandbag]

13 hours ago, Scott said:

adding that Carlson’s show didn’t reach out to the police department “to provide accurate context

Well of course not - it's Tucker Carlson. 

 

If Carlson said that it was raining, I would go outside to check! 

 

Giving Carlson unfettered and sole access to those tapes is simply fulfilling one of the promises which Kevin McCarthey made to get enough votes to become speaker. Humiliating for him, humiliating for the Capital police, humiliating for congress and humiliating for democracy; but hey - he got his name on the door - eventually!

[Phoenix Rising]

16 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

Well of course not - it's Tucker Carlson. 

 

If Carlson said that it was raining, I would go outside to check! 

 

Giving Carlson unfettered and sole access to those tapes is simply fulfilling one of the promises which Kevin McCarthey made to get enough votes to become speaker. Humiliating for him, humiliating for the Capital police, humiliating for congress and humiliating for democracy; but hey - he got his name on the door - eventually!

Not only humiliating but a severe breach of security since the footage shows in detail how rioters accessed the building and routes lawmakers used to flee to safety.

And since Carlson seems fully prepared to sell his own spawn for a ratings bump it's only a matter of time before this is all over the internet.

Strangely enough he doesn't seem to be a fan of trump though and this must really confuse the MAGA crowd!

 

Tucker Carlson ‘passionately’ hates Trump, and eight more key revelations about Fox News from new Dominion filings

Edited March 8, 2023 by Phoenix Rising

[herfiehandbag]

2 hours ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Not only humiliating but a severe breach of security since the footage shows in detail how rioters accessed the building and routes lawmakers used to flee to safety.

And since Carlson seems fully prepared to sell his own spawn for a ratings bump it's only a matter of time before this is all over the internet.

Strangely enough he doesn't seem to be a fan of trump though and this must really confuse the MAGA crowd!

 

Tucker Carlson ‘passionately’ hates Trump, and eight more key revelations about Fox News from new Dominion filings

Tucker Carlson's respect, admiration and dare I say love for - Tucker Carlson - leaves little room for an consequential feelings about anybody else. 

[nauseus]

15 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Democrats speaking in opposites again. The whole footage shows the Q Shaman was politely escorted and guided through the capitol by police. Another false narrative about Q Anon shamen storming the capitol and leading an insurrection bites the dust. Time to arrest the Jan 6th committee and charge them with deliberately withholding evidence that proves the accused to be innocent. Lying is bad. Lying for 2 years and holding farcical show trials they knew were nonsense is a new low in the left's dishonesty - although totally unsurprising after they refused to release footage(nothing to hide, nothing to fear?) Sad so many were taken in by the insurrection narrative.

 

"Virtually every moment of his time inside the Capitol was caught on tape,” says Carlson, who was granted exclusive access by Speaker Kevin McCarthy to 40,000 hours of surveillance footage from that day inside and around the Capitol, which has never been seen before by the public.

“The tapes show the Capitol police never stopped Jacob Chansley. They helped him. They acted as his tour guides.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/jan-6-footage-shows-capitol-cops-escorting-qanon-shaman-to-senate-floor/ar-AA18iDE3

The complaints about cherry-picking are a bit laughable after the 'selected' footage allowed in those wonderful J6 hearings! I see Carlson did a follow-up on 7 March featuring a Capitol Police officer, Tarik Johnson, who was apparently responsible for getting the senators and congress people to safety - his only reward was a suspension after 22 years because he used a MAGA hat to help his way through the crowd to get to  his colleagues - he was also never asked to testify before the J6 committee. Now that's pretty selective.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-55700011

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11833301/New-Jan-6-tapes-reveal-Capitol-cop-used-initiative-evacuate-senators-boss-went-SILENT.html

 

 

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2 minutes ago, nauseus said:

The complaints about cherry-picking are a bit laughable after the 'selected' footage allowed in those wonderful J6 hearings! I see Carlson did a follow-up on 7 March featuring a Capitol Police officer, Tarik Johnson, who was apparently responsible for getting the senators and congress people to safety - his only reward was a suspension after 22 years because he used a MAGA hat to help his way through the crowd to get to  his colleagues - he was also never asked to testify before the J6 committee. Now that's pretty selective.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-55700011

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11833301/New-Jan-6-tapes-reveal-Capitol-cop-used-initiative-evacuate-senators-boss-went-SILENT.html

 

 

We have seen numerous videos of violent crowds storming the Capitol and the police defending it. I'm sure there are many more thousands of hours also of nothing violent happening. So what?

[Slip]

3 minutes ago, placeholder said:

We have seen numerous videos of violent crowds storming the Capitol and the police defending it. I'm sure there are many more thousands of hours also of nothing violent happening. So what?

He needed to use it to shoe-horn in that weirdly random and irrelevant shtick about a guy with a maga hat.

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Just now, Slip said:

He needed to use it to shoe-horn in that weirdly random and irrelevant shtick about a guy with a maga hat.

I think his M.O. is focus on the small picture.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

And meanwhile, we have Capitol insurrection suspects who were allowed to remain on home detention/house arrest pending trial going on the lam.... 

 

Hopefully the exploits of this pair will encourage other judges to keep other insurrectionists locked up pending the completion of their court cases.

 

2 Capitol riot defendants accused of violently attacking Capitol Police officers tampered with their ankle monitors and are now on the run, FBI says

 

"A federal judge issued warrants for the arrest of two January 6 Capitol riot defendants who went missing on Monday.

 

Olivia Pollock and Joseph Hutchinson III are both accused of several charges, including assaulting Capitol officers, theft of government property, entry to restricted grounds, and violent and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds, court documents show.

 

Joe Boland, a supervisory special agent with the FBI's Lakeland, Florida office, said the bureau learned Pollock and Hutchinson had "tampered with or removed" the ankle monitors used to track them and notified the court after they couldn't locate either of them, the Associated Press reported on Monday."

 

(more)

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/2-capitol-riot-defendants-accused-of-violently-attacking-capitol-police-officers-tampered-with-their-ankle-monitors-and-are-now-on-the-run-fbi-says/ar-AA18kwBX

 

And what makes this case worse is the woman suspect involved here is the sister of another charged insurrectionist who already has been a fugitive on the run since 2021.

 

It never occurred to the federal authorities involved here that the sister insurrectionist might be inclined to follow in the footsteps of her already fugitive brother insurrectionist?

 

Edited March 8, 2023 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[heybruce]

10 hours ago, vandeventer said:

The Dems. had every chance to release the footage when they held the house but they didn't do it. Why because they know it's made up BS just like the Russia, Russia, Russia. If you don't want Tucker to filter it I am sure Mr. Trump would gladly do it.

"The Dems." listened to the Capitol security people who asked them not to release the videos.  Now that the tapes have been released to Putin fanboy and right-wing agitator Tucker Carlson there is no reason not to release them to all the news media.

[nauseus]

7 hours ago, placeholder said:

We have seen numerous videos of violent crowds storming the Capitol and the police defending it. I'm sure there are many more thousands of hours also of nothing violent happening. So what?

So why are there these many more thousands of hours of nothing violent happening?