Tucker Carlson, Donald Trump and the in-fighting at Fox News

[Scott]

A $1.6bn defamation lawsuit against Fox News has pulled back the curtain on the inner workings of the powerful conservative cable network in the days after the 2020 US presidential election.

Dominion Voting Systems, a voting-machine manufacturer, alleges that Fox knowingly aired false allegations that their devices helped Joe Biden and the Democrats "steal" the election.

To make their case, the company has called dozens of Fox executives and journalists to testify in depositions and subpoenaed thousands of pages of their text messages and emails.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64895964

 

[SunnyinBangrak]

I don't understand this. How can the fraud claims be PROVEN WITHOUT DOUBT when there was no forensic audit of suspicious areas like water leak no water leak Fulton county? That was the left's biggest mistake. Take a contested district and check 100% of the ballots making sure valid photo id was used, and the ballot slip shows who the voter intended to vote for. So simple. Why was it not done??

 To have done a quick forensic audit in certain districts wouch have led to a trusted result, better than insecurity, censorship, false narratives that courts ruled no fraud when the cases were thrown out for lack of standing and the total lack of trust in the 2020 vote by conservatives.

 

[Tug]

I’m sure enjoying watching the dirt bags that deliberately undermined my country that were just fine flushing our democracy down the toilet for money a pox on them all of them.oh and another tidbit of good news old Donnie the liar in chief has been invited to speak to the NY grand jury in his hush money case (you remember that’s were he had sex with the old porn star as his wife was home taking care of his new born son)that is customary to do prior to an indictment yup good times a coming for our democracy!!

[Chomper Higgot]

32 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

I don't understand this. How can the fraud claims be PROVEN WITHOUT DOUBT when there was no forensic audit of suspicious areas like water leak no water leak Fulton county? That was the left's biggest mistake. Take a contested district and check 100% of the ballots making sure valid photo id was used, and the ballot slip shows who the voter intended to vote for. So simple. Why was it not done??

 To have done a quick forensic audit in certain districts wouch have led to a trusted result, better than insecurity, censorship, false narratives that courts ruled no fraud when the cases were thrown out for lack of standing and the total lack of trust in the 2020 vote by conservatives.

 

Your alternative fantasy world is not what is on trial.

 

The court is considering the allegation that FOX defamed Dominion Voting Systems.

 

The case Discovery process has turned up the receipts, including internal FOX communications and a recorded Zoom meeting, all providing evidence of conscious lying. 
 

Add to that Fox executives and presenters have given testimony under oath acknowledging their conscious lies.

Feel free to retreat back to La-La Land if you find these realities unsettling.

 

 

 

[bamnutsak]

Fox News CEO Suzanne Scott, and Viet Dinh, Chief Legal & Policy Officer are being fattened up for the slaughter.

 

Coming in the fourth and final season of Succession.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[heybruce]

1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

I don't understand this. How can the fraud claims be PROVEN WITHOUT DOUBT when there was no forensic audit of suspicious areas like water leak no water leak Fulton county? That was the left's biggest mistake. Take a contested district and check 100% of the ballots making sure valid photo id was used, and the ballot slip shows who the voter intended to vote for. So simple. Why was it not done??

 To have done a quick forensic audit in certain districts wouch have led to a trusted result, better than insecurity, censorship, false narratives that courts ruled no fraud when the cases were thrown out for lack of standing and the total lack of trust in the 2020 vote by conservatives.

 

Audits were done.  Ballots were checked.  Votes were recounted.  The plumbing problem in Fulton county was investigated. 

 

The results always came out the same:  Trump lost bigly.

[Thingamabob]

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6 hours ago, heybruce said:

Audits were done.  Ballots were checked.  Votes were recounted.  The plumbing problem in Fulton county was investigated. 

 

The results always came out the same:  Trump lost bigly.

Not really. He got over 70 million votes.

[earlinclaifornia]

11 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

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Not really. He got over 70 million votes.

You mean that a 10 percent additional amount of voters you do not consider big?

[ozimoron]

16 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

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Not really. He got over 70 million votes.

Biden got a record number of votes and won by some 8 million.

[Phoenix Rising]

Anyone who still believes that the election was somehow "stolen" is a complete and utter moron.

Case closed.

[ozimoron]

6 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Anyone who still believes that the election was somehow "stolen" is a complete and utter moron.

Case closed.

It's past time to start calling out these conspiracy theory whack jobs for what they are. 

[darksidedog]

I always knew that one day the truth behind the FOX inexplicable tirade of blatant lies would be revealed.

I didn't realise when it came it would be so overwhelming and thorough.

Trump needs to shoulder much of the blame for starting wild fictional conspiracies, but these FOX presenters/lying dirtbags for dollars, should also be facing criminal charges. They alone have whipped up millions of mindless right wing conspiracy believing morons into thinking there was some substance to what was obviously lies to anyone with a decent IQ.

And they knew it was all lies, and told it anyway, night after night. It's almost treasonous.

 

[placeholder]

13 minutes ago, darksidedog said:

I always knew that one day the truth behind the FOX inexplicable tirade of blatant lies would be revealed.

I didn't realise when it came it would be so overwhelming and thorough.

Trump needs to shoulder much of the blame for starting wild fictional conspiracies, but these FOX presenters/lying dirtbags for dollars, should also be facing criminal charges. They alone have whipped up millions of mindless right wing conspiracy believing morons into thinking there was some substance to what was obviously lies to anyone with a decent IQ.

And they knew it was all lies, and told it anyway, night after night. It's almost treasonous.

 

Is "Goebblesesque" a legitimate adjective?

[Slip]

4 hours ago, ozimoron said:

It's past time to start calling out these conspiracy theory whack jobs for what they are. 

I think Chomper and Heybruce just did so most successfully, at least the local variety.  A hat tip to you both gents.

 

[Edit- Is anyone else starting to feel a bit bad about our resident magats getting schooled so thoroughly and relentlessly on a daily basis?]

Edited March 10, 2023 by Slip

[darksidedog]

13 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Is "Goebblesesque" a legitimate adjective?

I don't see it in my comment, and will have to consult Rooster and his scrabble dictionary to know if your "goebblesesque" question is even a word.

My spell check suggests not.

Do you have any constructive criticism to offer on my post in actual aspects of it?

The FOX crew have seemingly being telling the truth under oath and something entirely different to their audience, or can you tell us all how the two somehow blend into reality?

 

Edited March 10, 2023 by darksidedog

[placeholder]

5 minutes ago, darksidedog said:

I don't see it in my comment, and will have to consult Rooster and his scrabble dictionary to now if your "goebblesesque" question is even a word.

My spell check suggests not.

Do you have any constructive criticism to offer on my post in actual aspects of it?

The FOX crew have seemingly being telling the truth under oath and something entirely different to their audience, or can you tell us all how the two somehow blend into reality?

 

I wasn't criticizing your comment.

[onthedarkside]

Off topic deflection post removed

[Phoenix Rising]

13 hours ago, darksidedog said:

I always knew that one day the truth behind the FOX inexplicable tirade of blatant lies would be revealed.

I didn't realise when it came it would be so overwhelming and thorough.

Trump needs to shoulder much of the blame for starting wild fictional conspiracies, but these FOX presenters/lying dirtbags for dollars, should also be facing criminal charges. They alone have whipped up millions of mindless right wing conspiracy believing morons into thinking there was some substance to what was obviously lies to anyone with a decent IQ.

And they knew it was all lies, and told it anyway, night after night. It's almost treasonous.

 

I agree with everything you say except that I would have removed the word "almost".

[Phoenix Rising]

13 hours ago, Slip said:

I think Chomper and Heybruce just did so most successfully, at least the local variety.  A hat tip to you both gents.

 

[Edit- Is anyone else starting to feel a bit bad about our resident magats getting schooled so thoroughly and relentlessly on a daily basis?]

Well, since they're largely absent from the "schooling" threads I would say that they are. Am I feeling a bit bad?

In no way, shape or form!

[billd766]

21 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

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Not really. He got over 70 million votes.

Really, he did lose.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election

 

Joe Biden Donald Trump

Party Democratic Republican

Home state Delaware Florida[c]

Running mate Kamala Harris Mike Pence

Electoral vote 306 232

States carried 25 + DC + NE-0225 + ME-02

Popular vote 81,283,501[1] 74,223,975[1]

Percentage51.3% 46.8%

 

He lost the electoral college vote by 306 to 232 votes and the popular vote (which is the one that should matter the most) by 81,283,501 votes versus 74,223,975 votes. A massive 7,059,526 votes.

 

Now if you think that 74,223,975 is a larger figure than 81,283,501, it is about time that you went back to school to relearn mathematics.

Edited March 11, 2023 by billd766

[ozimoron]

Fox News faces potential 'financial death penalty' due to Dominion lawsuit

 

If Dominion is successful, then all that would be left to determine is the amount of damages that Dominion is entitled to receive. 

Beyond that $1.6 billion, is the prospect of punitive damages that could also be in the billions -- putting the financial stability of the network at risk.

Dominion is "also seeking punitive damages, which are not capped under New York state law and could also be in the billions of dollars.

 

It would send a ringing message to all media companies to keep themselves in check and uphold the truth."

 

https://www.rawstory.com/fox-news-dominion-2659583123/

 

[berrec]

On 3/10/2023 at 5:20 PM, Phoenix Rising said:

Anyone who still believes that the election was somehow "stolen" is a complete and utter moron.

Case closed.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hillary-clinton-trump-is-an-illegitimate-president/2019/09/26/29195d5a-e099-11e9-b199-f638bf2c340f_story.html

[ozimoron]

2 hours ago, berrec said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hillary-clinton-trump-is-an-illegitimate-president/2019/09/26/29195d5a-e099-11e9-b199-f638bf2c340f_story.html

Different election and there is no shortage of evidence that Russia made a huge effort to help Trump win. 

[placeholder]

 

6 hours ago, berrec said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hillary-clinton-trump-is-an-illegitimate-president/2019/09/26/29195d5a-e099-11e9-b199-f638bf2c340f_story.html

"Illegitmate" can have many meanings. Clinton did not claim that there was massive voter fraud and had the votes been honestly counted she would have won.

Remember that Trump claimed that not only did he win the electoral college, but that he also won the popular vote in that election. So he was crying fraud even in an election he won.

[bannork]

On 3/10/2023 at 10:34 PM, placeholder said:

I wasn't criticizing your comment.

Yes, I thought you were agreeing. Wasn't it Goebbels who said if you tell a lie long enough, people will believe it?

[onthedarkside]

Baiting troll post removed

[Phoenix Rising]

Fox News lied to you.

 

"This puts Fox News viewers in a bind. Do they stick with their beloved right-wing network and continue to get played for suckers? Will they sit back and confirm Fox Corporation chairman Rupert Murdoch’s obvious belief that they’re easy marks?"

 

Maybe some of our resident MAGA fans can answer these questions?

[stevenl]

1 minute ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Fox News lied to you.

 

"This puts Fox News viewers in a bind. Do they stick with their beloved right-wing network and continue to get played for suckers? Will they sit back and confirm Fox Corporation chairman Rupert Murdoch’s obvious belief that they’re easy marks?"

 

Maybe some of our resident MAGA fans can answer these questions?

They'll just ignore it all.