Chomper Higgot Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) 51 minutes ago, owl sees all said: I think it's pretty obvious that this is simply a ploy or ruse to get Gary a knighthood. He already has an OBE, but the powers-that-be want him in the Lords. ‘The powers that be’. Are those the same powers that be who had him censored? Edited March 14, 2023 by Chomper Higgot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 hour ago, BobBKK said: I heard viewing figures up 500,000 - Brits always find a way of making our voices heard amid the woke noise. If I was back in Uk I'd have done the same - put on MOTD to show support without overpaid Lineker. I trust you would have bought a TV license first. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl sees all Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: ‘The powers that be’. Are those the same poets that be who had him censored? Could be right there CH. I think the move is to get more ex-footballers (and others sports) in the Lords, before the big call to dissolve it comes up. Then it can be argued that even footballers can earn their place in the Upper House. Edited March 14, 2023 by owl sees all 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 2 hours ago, JonnyF said: Actually I disagree. I find Lineker a bit smarmy (and not because of what I know about his views and his private life). I find Wright to be almost childish in his analysis and Shearer is a failed manager, very repetitive and full of the usual football cliches. Personally I am not surprised the viewing figures went up when they threw their toys out of the pram. It seems I'm not the only one who finds their spiel irritating. The viewing figures went up compared to the week before (but were still lower than the average MOTD audience) as many just tuned in to see how it would be done. I doubt there would be as many next week, if it had continued in that format, but fortunately we'll never know! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 6 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: Envy isn’t a good look. Don't worry about it, you will get over it......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onthedarkside Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Two videos have been removed, one from GBnews: GB News Right Biased and Questionable based on a lack of transparency with ownership and funding, numerous failed fact checks, and the promotion of conspiracy theories and pseudoscience. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/gb-news-uk-bias/ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youreavinalaff Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 6 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: Nobody compared any policy to Nazi Germany. Was Germany not Nazi in the 1930s? I seem to remember something significant happening in that decade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Just now, youreavinalaff said: Was Germany not Nazi in the 1930s? I seem to remember something significant happening in that decade. Maybe Gary was talking about the opposition Party from Germany in the 1930's ? It wouldn't have been the Socialists though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youreavinalaff Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: Gary Lineker has responded on Twitter: ”A final thought: however difficult the last few days have been, it simply doesn’t compare to having to flee your home from persecution or war to seek refuge in a land far away. It’s heartwarming to have seen the empathy towards their plight from so many of you. We remain a country of predominantly tolerant, welcoming and generous people. Thank you. “ Pure lass Gary, thank you too. The problem with that is, currently 42% of those arriving by boat are not fleeing war or persecution. In addition, 95% of Albanians arriving are male. I didn't know females are immune to war and persecution. https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/factsheet-small-boat-crossings-since-july-2022/factsheet-small-boat-crossings-since-july-2022 Edited March 14, 2023 by youreavinalaff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said: The problem with that is, currently 42% of those arriving by boat are not fleeing war or persecution. In addition, 95% of Albanians arriving are male. I didn't know females are immune to war and persecution. https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/factsheet-small-boat-crossings-since-july-2022/factsheet-small-boat-crossings-since-july-2022 That’s not a problem with Lineker’s statement, it’s a problem with the Government’s loss of control over the UK borders. Or to put it more simply for you. It’s not Lineker who has failed to control the borders, he doesn’t control the Home Office, Border Force, the Royal Navy, the Police Force or the National Budget. The Government do, and they’ve failed on immigration and control of the borders. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 18 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Maybe Gary was talking about the opposition Party from Germany in the 1930's ? It wouldn't have been the Socialists though You seem to have missed history class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said: Was Germany not Nazi in the 1930s? I seem to remember something significant happening in that decade. Regardless, Lineker was referring to language used, not policy, not the Nazis. Edited March 14, 2023 by Chomper Higgot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youreavinalaff Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: That’s not a problem with Lineker’s statement, it’s a problem with the Government’s loss of control over the UK borders. Or to put it more simply for you. It’s not Lineker who has failed to control the borders, he doesn’t control the Home Office, Border Force, the Royal Navy, the Police Force or the National Budget. The Government do, and they’ve failed on immigration and control of the borders. They have failed in attempts to halt illegal immigration because of opposition to their plans. If, those opposing would simply say "Ok. Those arriving are not from war torn countries can be sent straight back", that would immediately reduce illegal immigration by 42%. As per the figures quoted and substantiated by the link. Edited March 14, 2023 by youreavinalaff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youreavinalaff Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Regardless, Lineker was referring to language used, not policy, not the Nazis. Nice, but failed, wriggle. 55555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said: They have failed in attempts to halt illegal immigration because of opposition to their plans. If, those opposing would simply say "Ok. Those arriving are not from war torn countries can be sent straight back", that would immediately reduce illegal immigration by 42%. As per the figures quoted and substantiated by the link. No, they’ve failed because their hair brained schemes failed. A Government with a massive majority in Parliament is not being held back by any opposition. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted March 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said: Nice, but failed, wriggle. 55555 Sorry for sticking to the facts. He didn’t mention policies, he definitely did not mention Nazis. Rightwing fabricated outrage threw those into the pot. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will B Good Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said: They have failed in attempts to halt illegal immigration because of opposition to their plans. If, those opposing would simply say "Ok. Those arriving are not from war torn countries can be sent straight back", that would immediately reduce illegal immigration by 42%. As per the figures quoted and substantiated by the link. It has suited the Tories not to have this threatened invasion of 100 million resolved so they can keep rushing down to Dover and say we are in the middle of a crisis whenever a distraction is needed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youreavinalaff Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Just now, Will B Good said: It has suited the Tories not to have this threatened invasion of 100 million resolved so they can keep rushing down to Dover and say we are in the middle of a crisis whenever a distraction is needed. That's so funny I just spat my coffee out. Nothing to do with human rights groups, UN, the High Court? I'm off to get another coffee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 minute ago, youreavinalaff said: That's so funny I just spat my coffee out. Nothing to do with human rights groups, UN, the High Court? I'm off to get another coffee. Try to think of a better argument for when you come back. Focus on who is in Government and supposedly in control with a massive Parliament majority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youreavinalaff Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said: What on earth are you on about? Lineker’s comments had absolutely nothing to do with WW2. Away with you and your off topic diversion. Stick to what Lineker said. Thanks for your answer. ???????????? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will B Good Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 minute ago, youreavinalaff said: That's so funny I just spat my coffee out. Nothing to do with human rights groups, UN, the High Court? I'm off to get another coffee. Nothing whatsoever,,,,...if that were the case what are doing now that is really going to solve the problem?.....it's all hyperbole for the masses..... Reported to today......up swing in Conservative voters support for government following announcement of 'Stop the boats'.....just more red meat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Will B Good said: Nothing whatsoever,,,,...if that were the case what are doing now that is really going to solve the problem?.....it's all hyperbole for the masses..... Reported to today......up swing in Conservative voters support for government following announcement of 'Stop the boats'.....just more red meat. Nothing will happen before the election, the Government will continue to fail on immigration and Reform UK will benefit from the Government promoting their own failure on immigration. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBKK Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 5 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: I trust you would have bought a TV license first. lol - well at least you have a sense of humour ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youreavinalaff Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Will B Good said: Nothing whatsoever,,,,...if that were the case what are doing now that is really going to solve the problem?.....it's all hyperbole for the masses..... Reported to today......up swing in Conservative voters support for government following announcement of 'Stop the boats'.....just more red meat. None whatsoever? I think you should read up on UNHCR and ECHR. Edited March 14, 2023 by youreavinalaff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 minute ago, youreavinalaff said: None whatsoever? I think you should read up on UNHCR and ECHR. I think you should do likewise, paying particular attention to the UK being a signatory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Will B Good Posted March 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said: None whatsoever? I think you should read up on UNHCR and ECHR. Immaterial......the Tories don't want to resolve the problem and having an enemy, UNHCR/ECHR, is perfect for them.......all rightwing governments need/invent enemies to keep the knuckleheads from focussing on what they are really doing. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 30 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: That’s not a problem with Lineker’s statement, it’s a problem with the Government’s loss of control over the UK borders. Or to put it more simply for you. It’s not Lineker who has failed to control the borders, he doesn’t control the Home Office, Border Force, the Royal Navy, the Police Force or the National Budget. The Government do, and they’ve failed on immigration and control of the borders. If your lot were in control there would be no problem, your Corby & Abbott would be on the beach waving the welcome flag..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mac Mickmanus Posted March 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2023 12 minutes ago, Will B Good said: Nothing whatsoever,,,,...if that were the case what are doing now that is really going to solve the problem?.....it's all hyperbole for the masses..... Reported to today......up swing in Conservative voters support for government following announcement of 'Stop the boats'.....just more red meat. There have been new laws passed this week to stop illegal immigration from France by boat https://www.gov.uk/government/news/ground-breaking-new-laws-to-stop-the-boats 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted March 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Will B Good said: Immaterial......the Tories don't want to resolve the problem and having an enemy, UNHCR/ECHR, is perfect for them.......all rightwing governments need/invent enemies to keep the knuckleheads from focussing on what they are really doing. Precisely. The Tories have had over twelve years to fix this, they’ve failed. But with an election in the offing and the Tories lagging Labour in polls out they come with fingers pointing at immigrants, and the ludicrous suggestion that they, the Tories, are going to somehow fix what they haven’t fixed for over a decade. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youreavinalaff Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: I think you should do likewise, paying particular attention to the UK being a signatory. Exactly right. I'm glad you agree that there are outside influences getting in the way of the UK governments attempts to control immigration. I'm happy to agree with you on that. It's a shame the laws appear to be a blanket law covering all arrivals and not just those seeking legitimate refuge. Seems the next government will also have the same issues. I'll look forward to your comments on that at a later date. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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