Bong shopping -- I'm confused

[Jingthing]

19 hours ago, opporna said:

Dynavap vaporizers are legal, cheap and good. You can get one for less than 2000 baht.

Can someone point me to a shop in Jomtien / Pattaya to buy one then?

If not what is the best online source in Thailand. 

[Jingthing]

17 hours ago, jvs said:

@Jingthing,if your lungs are that bad already why would you look for trouble by smoking?

What are you trying to get out of it?

Not meaning to criticize but i don't understand your point of view.

I hate smoking,it leaves a very bad taste and it also makes me cough.

I do like the buzz i get from using Cannabis and i wish i would have tried

it 45 years ago or so.

In hindsight have of my class in school in later years was always stoned!

I never knew.

Anyways i have had trouble sleeping for most of my life and i used lots of

sleeping pills.

Four years ago or so i was giving some oil to sample and it changed my life!

I can sleep now and it is great,i only use edibles now but i have no idea about strains or tastes.

I use it to sleep and to me it is all the same.

Maybe i should start to look a little closer at other options?

Maybe a vaporizer would be ok but do you still get the smoke inside of you?

 

I like CBD oil but the point of smoking is to sample a large variety of different strains to find ones that I like. I left weed long ago (from being a teenaged pothead) but now it's a whole new ballgame and an exciting one.

I would rather not smoke but there are ways to at least limit the exposure. 

The dry herb vape interests me. Still not clear if it's really legal though. 

 

As far as a bong choice, I'm probably favoring a medium sized glass one with a wide base for more water, with an ice rack and carb hole.

Edited April 3, 2023 by Jingthing

[NextG]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I like CBD oil but the point of smoking is to sample a large variety of different strains to find ones that I like. I left weed long ago (from being a teenaged pothead) but now it's a whole new ballgame and an exciting one.

I would rather not smoke but there are ways to at least limit the exposure. 

The dry herb vape interests me. Still not clear if it's really legal though. 

 

As far as a bong choice, I'm probably favoring a medium sized glass one with a wide base for more water, with an ice rack and carb hole.

You aren’t getting it… You fill the whole thing with snow/crushed ice. That will also have the effect of any water in the base being freezing cold. Try it and then compare with just water in the base. 
I’m not a smoker either, but I tried it and am recommending it to you. But as usual….

[opporna]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Can someone point me to a shop in Jomtien / Pattaya to buy one then?

If not what is the best online source in Thailand. 

The entry-level one I bought link is here, and that's the best price I've seen as well.

[Jingthing]

5 hours ago, opporna said:

The entry-level one I bought link is here, and that's the best price I've seen as well.

Wow.

So that's a strong indication that dry herb vaping really is legal here.

[Jingthing]

5 hours ago, NextG said:

You aren’t getting it… You fill the whole thing with snow/crushed ice. That will also have the effect of any water in the base being freezing cold. Try it and then compare with just water in the base. 
I’m not a smoker either, but I tried it and am recommending it to you. But as usual….

No need to react that way.

I saw that suggestion before and it just didn't appeal to me very much.

I think I did try that in my hippie pothead  days.

I mentioned wanting a bong with an ice rack but that doesn't mean I would actually bother with ice often like for a few hits. Just as an option why not.

I think filling with crushed ice is kind of messy and could easily melt to overflow.

But very cold water sounds good. Could just put it in directly.

Anyway thanks for the suggestion.

[Jingthing]

Some questions. 

I used to think you needed to hold in.weed smoke for a long time but recently read just a second or two gets the full effect.

Is that true?

What about dry herb vaping?

Also don't need to hold the vape in?

[BritManToo]

11 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Some questions. 

I used to think you needed to hold in.weed smoke for a long time but recently read just a second or two gets the full effect.

Is that true?

What about dry herb vaping?

Also don't need to hold the vape in?

Got 2 dry herb vapes, they just don't do the job for me.

Minimal effect compared to smoking.

[Jingthing]

My thinking now is to try dry herb vaping, see how it goes, and then if I like it don't even bother buying a new bong.

 

I do have a low cost mini bong now which is usable enough but overall not very satisfactory as too small. So if I was going to keep on Bonging going bigger made sense.

 

But again for now maybe no bong at all!

Edited April 4, 2023 by Jingthing

[Jingthing]

I read that the used herb from dry herb vaping is cooked and thus can be eaten.

True?

I'm not into making baked goods so I wonder if I could just mix cooked weed with high fat Greek yogurt and honey and having easy edibles that way?

[Jingthing]

BTW thanks to everyone who has participated in this topic. 

[Adumbration]

As a broke college student I was infamous for my bucket bong parties.  I rented a big old tumbledown house with a couple of friends.  A total dump but it had a bit of ambience because it was built of timber and had a grand lounge room with an open fireplace. 

 

We would just fill the big old sink up in the laundry room.  Then cut the bottom off a two litre plastic milk bottle.  Stick a stem and cone in the cap and you are done.

 

 

[Adumbration]

On 3/31/2023 at 8:21 PM, Jingthing said:

The entire cannabis game is quite complicated these days. Perhaps you missed my goal -- to be as gentle to my lungs as possible (without not smoking at all).

 

Then make and eat your own cookies...problem solved.

[bamnutsak]

51 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I read that the used herb from dry herb vaping is cooked and thus can be eaten.

True?

You can eat anything.

 

Personally I throw the resulting biomass in the trash.

 

 

[Jingthing]

24 minutes ago, bamnutsak said:

You can eat anything.

 

Personally I throw the resulting biomass in the trash.

 

 

The question is will the vape cooked herb have effects.

I read that if it's brown it's mostly used but if less brown still good for eating.

[stoner]

best options are edibles oils and dabs. 

 

dabs are a far safer and cleaner smoke (if the dab is made correctly and clean) than any bong with filtration could ever be. with dabs you are not smoking all the fats waxes lips and sugars that are in the flower. you can also control the temperature of the dab in order to max out proper terpene and cannabinoid delivery. you could also learn to micro dab and find out exact dosage that suits you. along with finding the strain that matches you....you would find yourself quite shocked at how so little can go so far. 

 

there is also no comparison between a dab and a bong hit in regards to the reward(high) you get. 

 

have you ever tried properly made edibles ? tincture drops ? 

[Jingthing]

OK.

I didn't really know about dabs.

Now I do.

Not sure I want to go there but definitely interesting.

 

https://youtu.be/XuWqEo63pZc

 

 

Edited April 4, 2023 by Jingthing

[stoner]

5 hours ago, Jingthing said:

OK.

I didn't really know about dabs.

Now I do.

Not sure I want to go there but definitely interesting.

 

https://youtu.be/XuWqEo63pZc

 

 

those are ok dabs but still contain all the waxes etc. 

[Jingthing]

Now I see that Dynacaps can be connected with an adapter to bongs. That's interesting. The B version shown before has a very small chamber though, .05 gram rather than .1 gram.

[bendejo]

14 hours ago, Jingthing said:

The question is will the vape cooked herb have effects.

I read that if it's brown it's mostly used but if less brown still good for eating.

AVB = Already Vaped Bud

Search for it on the net for some ideas on what to do with it.  I gave it a try a few years ago, best I could come up with was rinse it through alcohol (isopropyl) then dry it out into tar.  When heated it turns into to liquid, and while doing so the fumes are inhaled.  I managed to mix it with fresh bud and do it in the bong and the effect was like kick-_ss hashish.  The difficult part was dealing with the oozing liquid.  Having to deal with equipment etc while I'm getting my buzz is no fun for me.  A spoon over a candle and a glass straw would work, but I don't have enough arms. As for eating the AVB, the nicest way to describe the taste is godawful. even when doing the graham cracker-peanut butter-chocolate concoction.

Also, doing concentrates raises your tolerance: you may not be able to catch a buzz a day or more after doing some.

 

 

Edited April 4, 2023 by bendejo

[opporna]

7 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Now I see that Dynacaps can be connected with an adapter to bongs. That's interesting. The B version shown before has a very small chamber though, .05 gram rather than .1 gram.

There are positives and negatives to the 'half' bowl option. It's very good as a way to learn the dynavap. It takes a bit of playing around and research to figure everything out, but not burning and just vaporizing is a very interesting thing at the least. And as you said, can go through a bong.

 

Look on reddit for opinions on the 'half' bowl.

 

Edited April 4, 2023 by opporna

[NextG]

20 hours ago, Jingthing said:

No need to react that way.

I saw that suggestion before and it just didn't appeal to me very much.

I think I did try that in my hippie pothead  days.

I mentioned wanting a bong with an ice rack but that doesn't mean I would actually bother with ice often like for a few hits. Just as an option why not.

I think filling with crushed ice is kind of messy and could easily melt to overflow.

But very cold water sounds good. Could just put it in directly.

Anyway thanks for the suggestion.

What’s the difference between putting crushed ice in directly or ‘very cold water’ in directly? ????

When the ice begins to melt, pour out the excess water. It’s not rocket science. Water won’t filter much out on it’s own.
I’m inclined to agree with papa al ????

I paid 700 baht for a high quality glass bong, which I didn’t bother to use, as I don’t smoke in general. Just wanted something to share with friends if necessary. 
Messy? Are you a girl? Who cares? It’s about the end result. Cleaner, cooler and ‘tastier’. 

 

Similar to this one. I just give them away. 
 

But you go with your idea first ???? Spend a couple of thousand on a DHV and come back to let us know how it is. 

[Jingthing]

4 hours ago, opporna said:

There are positives and negatives to the 'half' bowl option. It's very good as a way to learn the dynavap. It takes a bit of playing around and research to figure everything out, but not burning and just vaporizing is a very interesting thing at the least. And as you said, can go through a bong.

 

Look on reddit for opinions on the 'half' bowl.

 

Yeah some people like the half bowl and some don’t. So if its not enough do another yeah?

[Jingthing]

5 hours ago, bendejo said:

AVB = Already Vaped Bud

Search for it on the net for some ideas on what to do with it.  I gave it a try a few years ago, best I could come up with was rinse it through alcohol (isopropyl) then dry it out into tar.  When heated it turns into to liquid, and while doing so the fumes are inhaled.  I managed to mix it with fresh bud and do it in the bong and the effect was like kick-_ss hashish.  The difficult part was dealing with the oozing liquid.  Having to deal with equipment etc while I'm getting my buzz is no fun for me.  A spoon over a candle and a glass straw would work, but I don't have enough arms. As for eating the AVB, the nicest way to describe the taste is godawful. even when doing the graham cracker-peanut butter-chocolate concoction.

Also, doing concentrates raises your tolerance: you may not be able to catch a buzz a day or more after doing some.

 

 

Interesting. 

Does it just taste bad going down or is there a long lasting vile aftertaste?

Might be good for putting in capsules.

Edited April 5, 2023 by Jingthing

[Jingthing]

35 minutes ago, NextG said:

What’s the difference between putting crushed ice in directly or ‘very cold water’ in directly? ????

When the ice begins to melt, pour out the excess water. It’s not rocket science. Water won’t filter much out on it’s own.
I’m inclined to agree with papa al ????

I paid 700 baht for a high quality glass bong, which I didn’t bother to use, as I don’t smoke in general. Just wanted something to share with friends if necessary. 
Messy? Are you a girl? Who cares? It’s about the end result. Cleaner, cooler and ‘tastier’. 

 

Similar to this one. I just give them away. 
 

But you go with your idea first ???? Spend a couple of thousand on a DHV and come back to let us know how it is. 

That bong seems good.

Yes I will try out a DHV.

[bendejo]

22 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Interesting. 

Does it just taste bad going down or is there a long lasting vile aftertaste?

Might be good for putting in capsules.

You'll eventually belch, guarantee will not make you smile.

I'm not a fan of eating weed.  You seem to be health conscious, I suggest you do some reading of how differently the body breaks down the fumes vs ingesting.

Whenever I clean my bong (maybe a few times a year) I can't help thinking that if I were doing joints all that tar that would have been inside me.

 

 

[stoner]

1 hour ago, bendejo said:

I can't help thinking that if I were doing joints all that tar that would have been inside me.

you should see the carbon left over after a short path distillation is done. even with supposed clean winterized material going in i was shocked at the crud left over. 

[opporna]

I was looking at bongs because of this thread, and I read that putting the smoke through water actually takes quite a bit of THC out of the smoke so you need to smoke more to get the same high, defeating the purpose. I'm no expert, just reporting something I read.

[NextG]

16 hours ago, opporna said:

I was looking at bongs because of this thread, and I read that putting the smoke through water actually takes quite a bit of THC out of the smoke so you need to smoke more to get the same high, defeating the purpose. I'm no expert, just reporting something I read.

Defeating the purpose? What is the purpose? I think the purpose is to remove some of the more harmful effects. If there is 50% less tar etc and 10% less THC, that wouldn’t be “defeating the purpose”. 
The purpose is to reduce the temperature, remove some tar and allow you to appreciate what you are inhaling. 
I don’t smoke in general, but I tried with snow filtration. It makes a huge difference. 
 

[stoner]

3 hours ago, NextG said:

but I tried with snow filtration. It makes a huge difference. 

i too like to ice my shaft after each pull.