Indian national arrested for overstaying his visa by 1,200 days

[webfact]

 

Chaiyaphum - Thai immigration, together with the police in the district of Kaset Sombun, Chaiyaphum, have arrested a foreigner for overstaying his visa.

 

According to reports, the operation was carried out as part of the government's policy to crack down on various crimes in the area, including those committed by foreigners overstaying their visas or with warrants from Thai or foreign courts, reported INN.

 

The investigation was led by Pol. Lt. Gen. Phakkapong Pongphet, Commander of the Immigration Bureau, and Pol. Lt. Col. Manuwan Pannawong, Deputy Commander of the Chaiyaphum Provincial Police.

 

They ordered their units to conduct a sweep of the area and apprehend any suspects.

 

The joint team arrested Mr. Girajesh, a 34-year-old Indian national, for overstaying his visa by 1,200 days.

 

He was taken into custody and brought to the police station in Ban Pao, Kaset Sombun, to face legal proceedings under the Immigration Act B.E. 2522.

 

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[Celsius]

1 more year for elite status

[actonion]

Probably tired of standing in the endless queues  at  his local Immigration office

[Henryford]

Surely the immigration computer would spit out the names/address of foreigners overstaying their visa as soon as it expires. Why does it take so long to catch them?

[VinnieK]

2 minutes ago, Henryford said:

Surely the immigration computer would spit out the names/address of foreigners overstaying their visa as soon as it expires. Why does it take so long to catch them?

Err..,could it be because they have changed addresses? 

[Henryford]

Just now, VinnieK said:

Err..,could it be because they have changed addresses? 

Err yes but aren't hotels/guest houses suppossed to check your visa status.

[norfolkandchance]

Blast ! I've just ordered a new suit from him.

[Ohyesuare]

10 minutes ago, Henryford said:

Err yes but aren't hotels/guest houses suppossed to check your visa status.

Err most people staying here for 1200 days aren't staying in hotels or guesthouses and there's an endless supply of cheap apartments that only ask for the rent money in cash and not a passport or ever bother doing a TM30.

[bendejo]

Maybe he used a different type of calendar.

https://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/hindu-calendar.html

 

 

[tomazbodner]

Their mugshots would be in the system though, and there are 10s of thousands CCTV cameras in Thailand, which could be upgraded for facial recognition. Overstaying by self-imprisonment would not be any fun and I guess most such guests would leave as soon as they could afford to.

 

I am aware of such systems already in use in China, Serbia, Dubai and New Zealand. First 2 use Chinese technology, no idea for Dubai, while New Zealand uses Japanese provider. There are probably many more. It's basically same as that "smart car BMW" just that it's always on, and hooked up to all cameras in the area, scanning everyone's face and flagging those on the list, then following them around to prepare for arrest.

 

Such systems are not only used for finding criminals, but are often combined with management systems that control flow of traffic, public transport planning, etc.

 

Like it or not, given overall benefits of such systems, and the aspirations of population controls, sooner rather than later such systems will become a norm in most cities, before starting to spread across the rest of countries.

[The Fugitive]

11 minutes ago, tomazbodner said:

Their mugshots would be in the system though, and there are 10s of thousands CCTV cameras in Thailand, which could be upgraded for facial recognition. Overstaying by self-imprisonment would not be any fun and I guess most such guests would leave as soon as they could afford to.

 

I am aware of such systems already in use in China, Serbia, Dubai and New Zealand. First 2 use Chinese technology, no idea for Dubai, while New Zealand uses Japanese provider. There are probably many more. It's basically same as that "smart car BMW" just that it's always on, and hooked up to all cameras in the area, scanning everyone's face and flagging those on the list, then following them around to prepare for arrest.

 

Such systems are not only used for finding criminals, but are often combined with management systems that control flow of traffic, public transport planning, etc.

 

Like it or not, given overall benefits of such systems, and the aspirations of population controls, sooner rather than later such systems will become a norm in most cities, before starting to spread across the rest of countries.

Continuing to wear your face mask sounds like a good idea! Or would we need dark glasses and a peaked cap too?

[tomazbodner]

8 minutes ago, The Fugitive said:

Continuing to wear your face mask sounds like a good idea! Or would we need dark glasses and a peaked cap too?

The more of the face that you cover, the less accuracy the system provides, as it is looking for distinct facial features, which of course mask and sunglasses would completely cover. However during COVID, where facial recognition became a challenge, many other ways of detection were added, such as movements (the way a person walks), height estimation (by adding laser matrix to camera a 3D image with distance measuring is possible - some digital cameras and many robot vacuums use the same), and infrared filters, which can "see" through simple types of masks, although blocked by most quality sunglasses. Others of course are anomaly detection. It's cloudy and there's a man with black sunglasses and peaked cap with N95 mask... such anomalies can be flagged as well, and automatically traced.

 

I know Bangkok installed many thousands of cameras after redshirt occupation of central Bangkok, but not sure how far they are in hooking them up to automated recognition system. It is I think clear that they have some sort of automation, given how quickly they could track and find people after incidents. It would have taken considerably longer to do it "by hand".

[soi3eddie]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

They ordered their units to conduct a sweep of the area and apprehend any suspects.

So, it now appears, that any foreigner may be considered a suspect. ???? 

 

Edited April 8, 2023 by soi3eddie

[richard_smith237]

42 minutes ago, brianthainess said:

That Photo of him is very blurred, not sure if he moved while the shot was taken, so I have attached a clearer one .

 

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You can't cure stupid.

Seems you can’t cure racism either !!! 

[The Fugitive]

2 hours ago, tomazbodner said:

The more of the face that you cover, the less accuracy the system provides, as it is looking for distinct facial features, which of course mask and sunglasses would completely cover. However during COVID, where facial recognition became a challenge, many other ways of detection were added, such as movements (the way a person walks), height estimation (by adding laser matrix to camera a 3D image with distance measuring is possible - some digital cameras and many robot vacuums use the same), and infrared filters, which can "see" through simple types of masks, although blocked by most quality sunglasses. Others of course are anomaly detection. It's cloudy and there's a man with black sunglasses and peaked cap with N95 mask... such anomalies can be flagged as well, and automatically traced.

 

I know Bangkok installed many thousands of cameras after redshirt occupation of central Bangkok, but not sure how far they are in hooking them up to automated recognition system. It is I think clear that they have some sort of automation, given how quickly they could track and find people after incidents. It would have taken considerably longer to do it "by hand".

Interesting thanks! Supporters would argue that this is great providing it is put to good use in preventing and detecting crimes and apprehending offenders wanted on warrants etc. If people believe it's being used for other purposes e.g. indentifying and harassing trade union officials, political activists or even blackmail by the police then some sort of civil disobedience may be in order. Thinking of bank branches with metal detectors at the door and signs; 'remove crash helmet and baseball caps'. Banks in certain places employ armed security guards and deny entry/eject those who refuse to comply. Could we ever reach the stage where certain items of clothing were prohibited out of doors? Didn't France do that to certain females?

[Ohyesuare]

He was sharing his visa with 3 others so he really only overstayed 300 days.

[hotchilli]

4 hours ago, Henryford said:

Surely the immigration computer would spit out the names/address of foreigners overstaying their visa as soon as it expires. Why does it take so long to catch them?

Because it can't?

[mikeymike100]

7 hours ago, actonion said:

Probably tired of standing in the endless queues  at  his local Immigration office

Love the sarcasm, but probably true?

[mikeymike100]

1 hour ago, hotchilli said:

Because it can't?

But it should be able to? OK so some of the addresses might have changed, but some won't have?

[mikeymike100]

6 hours ago, Ohyesuare said:

Err most people staying here for 1200 days aren't staying in hotels or guesthouses and there's an endless supply of cheap apartments that only ask for the rent money in cash and not a passport or ever bother doing a TM30.

So the TM30 and 90 day reports only work on the guys/girls, not overstaying, so are legal?

 

 

[norfolkandchance]

6 hours ago, bendejo said:

Maybe he used a different type of calendar.

https://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/hindu-calendar.html

 

 

Or this one.

[Ohyesuare]

1 hour ago, mikeymike100 said:

So the TM30 and 90 day reports only work on the guys/girls, not overstaying, so are legal?

 

 

Pretty much. Keeps the honest people honest. Unless the overstayers are out in the middle of nowhere for the rest of their life, they'll eventually be caught.

[Freddy42OZ]

9 hours ago, Henryford said:

Err yes but aren't hotels/guest houses suppossed to check your visa status.

People living here don't stay in hotel or guest houses.

 

[metisdead]

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[StayinThailand2much]

How did they manage to catch him exactly on day 1,200?

[Caldera]

12 hours ago, webfact said:

The joint team arrested Mr. Girajesh, a 34-year-old Indian national, for overstaying his visa by 1,200 days.

Overstaying that long is pretty naughty, even by Indian standards. 

[Adumbration]

Well done Sir.  And the best of luck to all other overstayers.  

[The Fugitive]

13 hours ago, Adumbration said:

Well done Sir.  And the best of luck to all other overstayers.  

Definitely a case for abolishing borders. Worldwide. If everyone could live and work anywhere employers would be able to recruit the best people for the job, there would be no skills shortages and we would be incredibly culturally enriched. 

[VinnieK]

15 hours ago, StayinThailand2much said:

How did they manage to catch him exactly on day 1,200?

Well..they don't call it Amazing Thailand for nothing..????

[jak2002003]

21 minutes ago, The Fugitive said:

Definitely a case for abolishing borders. Worldwide. If everyone could live and work anywhere employers would be able to recruit the best people for the job, there would be no skills shortages and we would be incredibly culturally enriched. 

But that would not benifit those in power who want total control of everybody.

 

The world is our home.  All these imaginary man made borders and countries are so old fashioned. It's time people had the freedom to go and stay where they wanted, and humans stopped acting like territorial troops of monkeys.