At least 20 injured, multiple dead from shooting at Alabama birthday party, reports say

[KhunLA]

Anyone writing/emailing your Congress person with your views.

 

If not, you shouldn't expect any change in the gun laws   We can argue, discuss our opinions all day, and it won't change anything.

 

I've express my opinions & thought to my Congress person many times, and apparently they don't care about my opinion.

 

Until enough people want things / laws to change, we'll all just have to A2D.

 

Expressing your opinion to me ... Y'all singing to the choir.   Tell your Congress person, not me.

 

Have a pleasant day.

[candide]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

Indeed. Now we have revenge politics. Hatred of whites, the successful etc.

 

Maybe time to break the cycle, no?

Hatred of white! ????

You should write "hatred by white"

"Most violent far-right perpetrators were motivated by white supremacist or anti-government sentiments, and they committed most of the fatal attacks in 2021."

https://www.csis.org/analysis/pushed-extremes-domestic-terrorism-amid-polarization-and-protest

[Phulublub]

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

Has drug use and gangs increased since .... yes

 

So treat the causes of those increases

 

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

Guns don't kill ... people do.

The guns have always been here, people's moral compass has changed, not the guns.

What absolute and utter tosh!!!  Nowhere, ever, has a gun, not held by someone, ever shot anyone.  Never.

When the 2nd Amendment was written, howoften could a gun fire before being reloaded?  What was the muzzle velocity?  How far would a round carry?

Your "justifications" get weirder and more outlandish pretty much every time you post.  There is NO reason whatever for having assault weapons in the hand sof the populatn as a whole.

 

PH

 

[KhunLA]

11 minutes ago, Phulublub said:

There is NO reason whatever for having assault weapons in the hand sof the populatn as a whole.

 

PH

 

I agree 100%

 

Maybe you should work on your reading comprehension.

[KhunLA]

20 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

6 shots a minute according to 'Sharpes Rifles'

You're good ...

... I had a flintlock here, yes here/TH, and lucky if I could load 1 round in 1 minute.   And yes, that's how readily available firearms are here, just ask and you can receive.   Also had a handgun that short a rifle cartridge ... and nope, didn't test that one out.

 

Which in the 21st Century defeats the whole purpose of having a firearm for self defense, when the criminal has a semi with two 30 round mags taped together for quick reload.   Or even one 15 rd mag handgun, as would be more common.   A simple 5 rd revolver, and you lose that battle vs a muzzle loader.

 

Stop the criminals from having guns, or punish them at least.   Don't take guns away from law abiding folks, as they do need them occasionally.   Especially if filling up the freezer with venison, and what most get used for.

[jvs]

4 hours ago, KhunLA said:

'lose right to bear arms, and you'll lose the rest of your rights

Again i ask you,what rest of your rights would you lose?

 

[onthedarkside]

Nonsense off topic unsubstantiated conspiracy theory claims removed

[VocalNeal]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

6 shots a minute according to 'Sharpes Rifles'

I think 4????

[metisdead]

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[Scott]

A post making an unsubstantiated claim has been removed. 

 

At the time the 2nd Amendment was written in 1791:

 

In 1791 You Could Fire Only Once Every Thirty Seconds

In 1791, it took the average gun owner about thirty seconds to load and fire his gun, and it took great skill practice to be able to hit what he was aiming at.Sep 12, 2019

 

https://medium.com/technology-taxes-education-columns-by-david-grace/guns-america-in-1791-were-worlds-away-from-guns-america-today-e1f502674d4a

 

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Second-Amendment

[Cory1848]

On 4/16/2023 at 8:16 PM, josephbloggs said:

I can't believe that a country can have so many tragic gun deaths and so many involve children, yet no-one wants to do anything about it. I will never understand that logic at all.

Exactly. Americans choose to live this way by continuing to elect legislators who vote against sensible gun regulation. Unfortunately, for most legislation it takes a supermajority to get anything done. Americans also have developed a skewed emphasis on individual rights (the rights of me) at the expense of building a more livable, tolerant society (taking into account the rights of my neighbor).

[metisdead]

Update:

 

 
Teen brothers among 3 arrested in deadly shooting at Sweet 16 birthday in Alabama

 

Two teenage brothers along with a third man were accused of carrying out a deadly shooting at a Sweet 16 birthday party in Alabama, authorities announced Wednesday. Four young people were killed in the shooting late Saturday night at a dance studio in the town of Dadeville, Alabama.

Sgt. Jeremy Burkett of the Alabama Law Enforcement Agency said the suspects were arrested Tuesday night. 

 

Read more here:  https://www.cbsnews.com/news/alabama-shooting-suspects-arrested-authorities-announce/

[metisdead]

Alabama shooting: 3 arrested for violence at birthday party

DADEVILLE, Ala. - Law enforcement officials have arrested two teenagers and a 20-year-old man in connection to the mass shooting during a Sweet 16 birthday party in eastern Alabama that killed four and injured more than 30 people.

Members of the press from all over the country gathered on the steps of the Tallapoosa County Courthouse nearly 84 hours after the shots were fired at the Mahogany Masterpiece dance studio, located just one block away. Investigators say 18-year-old Phil Dowdell, 23-year-old Corbin Holston, 19-year-old Marsiah Collins, and 17-year-old KeKe Smith were killed in the gunfire.

 

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/dadeville-mass-shooting-alabama-investigators-press-conference

[billd766]

On 4/17/2023 at 7:43 PM, Scott said:

A post making an unsubstantiated claim has been removed. 

 

At the time the 2nd Amendment was written in 1791:

 

In 1791 You Could Fire Only Once Every Thirty Seconds

In 1791, it took the average gun owner about thirty seconds to load and fire his gun, and it took great skill practice to be able to hit what he was aiming at.Sep 12, 2019

 

https://medium.com/technology-taxes-education-columns-by-david-grace/guns-america-in-1791-were-worlds-away-from-guns-america-today-e1f502674d4a

 

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Second-Amendment

Thank you for those 2 very interesting links.

 

reading into them says a "well regulated militia" seems to be required to obtain and hold a weapon, and the militia seems to have been replaced by the individual National Guard units.

 

It would be interesting to know how many individuals holding any weapons are actually members of any State National Guard units.

 

The National Guard units seem to have their weapons provided by the national governments and held in fairly secure armories, unlike the people who have bought their own weapons, are not in the National Guard units, and theoretically illegally holding those weapons.

 

2 hours ago, metisdead said:

Alabama shooting: 3 arrested for violence at birthday party

DADEVILLE, Ala. - Law enforcement officials have arrested two teenagers and a 20-year-old man in connection to the mass shooting during a Sweet 16 birthday party in eastern Alabama that killed four and injured more than 30 people.

Members of the press from all over the country gathered on the steps of the Tallapoosa County Courthouse nearly 84 hours after the shots were fired at the Mahogany Masterpiece dance studio, located just one block away. Investigators say 18-year-old Phil Dowdell, 23-year-old Corbin Holston, 19-year-old Marsiah Collins, and 17-year-old KeKe Smith were killed in the gunfire.

 

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/dadeville-mass-shooting-alabama-investigators-press-conference

I am now waiting for the posters to come back saying. that as only handguns were used it wasn't really a massacre and nothing to do with the second amendment.

 

My answer to that is say that face to face to the parents, brothers and sisters, family and friends of those 4 people who were mercilessly slaughtered at a 16th birthday party.

[riclag]

Still no motive yet! I’m happy they arrested the sick demented trigger person or persons and others.
Accusations of reckless murder , were charged  for three of the individuals!

When I first read the charge title I was shocked there could be a title “reckless”, isnt  murder heinous enough but further reading of the definition explains it better
“Essentially, reckless murder is when someone is fully aware of their action, knowing that it will cause harm or death, and following through with the action anyways”.

https://www.wsfa.com/2023/04/19/explainer-understanding-dadeville-mass-shooting-suspects-reckless-murder-charges/