mania Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 (edited) 21 hours ago, Mr Dome said: I will say this, compared to the revised "Malaysia my 2nd Home" rules, That one is always a bit scary as folks there were not expecting the crazy increase when it came. Forcing many to leave Edited April 20, 2023 by mania Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 44 minutes ago, KhunLA said: Keep telling yourself that ... Yes, the winds were blowing smog over into Phuket only the other day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, jacko45k said: Yes, the winds were blowing smog over into Phuket only the other day. We visited 3 or 4 times the past couple years, so I guess the winds were blowing smog over every day we were there ... ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dome Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 39 minutes ago, mania said: That one is always a bit scary as folks there were not expecting the crazy increase when it came. Forcing many to leave I bet. Kind of cruel to do this but it fits with my image of Malaysia & how it's run. Lots of videos on YT now praising it as a retirement destination. Are they all SuperRich or haven't they gotten around to reading the details yet? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mokwit Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 2 hours ago, mania said: That one is always a bit scary as folks there were not expecting the crazy increase when it came. Forcing many to leave I thought at the end of the day they grandfathered in existing visa holders? - if not that is disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStar Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 (edited) Predictably, our old keyboard warriors immediately turned the topic into a Thai-bashing thread. But the OP was spot on. It didn't promise champagne on a beer budget, however, as we'd all much prefer. Me, been happy living in Pattaya for over 2 decades. Gettin' ready for a walk on the beach now. Russian hotties! ???? Enjoy the bashfest. Edited April 20, 2023 by BigStar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 3 hours ago, mania said: That one is always a bit scary as folks there were not expecting the crazy increase when it came. Forcing many to leave If referring to MM2H participants, it didn't force any to leave that already had, as they were grandfathered in. Only had to meet 2 new requirements; ... higher fee ... be in country for 90 days a year Also more like a TH resident visa, and also appropriately silly priced. Not many other options to stay, like TH, as they apparently prefer not to have the problems & riff raff TH allows in. SMART MOVE IMHO A 10 yr visa to start Allows you to own a house, which they'll even finance. Bring <21 yr old dependents with you for free education Can work part time or even have a business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNThai Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 4 hours ago, KhunLA said: Keep telling yourself that ... South Thailand still is the part of Thailand that offers the most consistent air figures throughout the year, ranging between 10-15 μg/m3 on average. Now maybe I should’ve worded my sentence a little different, maybe using ‘comparatively’ would be better ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwaibill Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 On 4/18/2023 at 3:56 AM, Pique Dard said: "Top 10 reasons to retire in Thailand in 2023" no matter what, you'll still need dough in thailand Where in the world do you NOT need dough to retire? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhunLA Posted April 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 20, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, JohnNThai said: South Thailand still is the part of Thailand that offers the most consistent air figures throughout the year, ranging between 10-15 μg/m3 on average. Now maybe I should’ve worded my sentence a little different, maybe using ‘comparatively’ would be better ???? Internet AQI sites will disagree with you AQI 79 ... 25.5µg/m³ / 5.1x healthy ... Hat Yai AQI 72 ... 22.1 µg/m³ / 4.4x healthy ... NST AQI 89 ... 32.2µg/m³ / 6x healthy ... Chumphon AQI 69 ... 20.1µg/m³ / 4x healthy ... Phatthalung AQI 66 ... 19.1µg/m³ / 3,8x healthy ... Trang AQI 46 ... 11.1µg/m³ / 2.2x healthy ... Satun ???? Info sourced from: IQair.com Edited April 20, 2023 by KhunLA 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNThai Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, KhunLA said: Internet AQI sites will disagree with you AQI 79 ... 25.5µg/m³ / 5.1x healthy ... Hat Yai AQI 72 ... 22.1 µg/m³ / 4.4x healthy ... NST AQI 89 ... 32.2µg/m³ / 6x healthy ... Chumphon AQI 69 ... 20.1µg/m³ / 4x healthy ... Phatthalung AQI 66 ... 19.1µg/m³ / 3,8x healthy ... Trang AQI 46 ... 11.1µg/m³ / 2.2x healthy ... Satun ???? Can you provide a link to your list? As I have found data that puts average pollution in I.e. Hat Yai at 16.8 μg/m3 annually. Update: I see you’ve taken real time peak data by IQAir. I’d recommend taking a look at this all time data page by IQAir, it shows annual pollution and monthly pollution: https://www.iqair.com/th-en/world-most-polluted-cities?continent=&country=&state=&page=1&perPage=50&cities= And the question remains, when let’s say 11 μg/m3 is still 2.2x the healthy limit, is there any civilized place on earth that achieves the healthy target? Because if the WHO target is what you go by, then of course no place in Thailand can offer that ???????? Edited April 20, 2023 by JohnNThai 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 19 minutes ago, JohnNThai said: Can you provide a link to your list? 29 minutes ago, KhunLA said: Info sourced from: IQair.com just type 'AQI + location' in your address bar, or Gsearch, as same site you use, but their search engine sucks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n00dle Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 why are you making us read this poorly written SEO <deleted>? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, n00dle said: why are you making us read this poorly written SEO <deleted>? Maybe because someone asked, or needs a bit of help, when negotiating sites with a krappy search feature. Why would you care ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n00dle Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 Just now, KhunLA said: Maybe because someone asked, or needs a bit of help, when negotiating sites with a krappy search feature. Why would you care ? I was talking about the articles in general. Why, when i did not quote you, would you assume i was replying to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 11 minutes ago, n00dle said: I was talking about the articles in general. Why, when i did not quote you, would you assume i was replying to you? probably because I mentioned 'search engine' in the post immediately before yours. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanuman2547 Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 8 hours ago, KhunLA said: probably because I mentioned 'search engine' in the post immediately before yours. ???? Hey Khun LA, your location says Prachuap Khiri Khan. Are you living in the city of PKK? How is the air quality there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Hanuman2547 said: Hey Khun LA, your location says Prachuap Khiri Khan. Are you living in the city of PKK? How is the air quality there? Yes, A Muang This week, sucks, between AQI 50-75 at the house. IQair stating higher, but haven't a clue where they source their info, as state on site, no meter/contributor of theirs here. Probably 'sat' info. PM2.5 not a whole better, hence the sucks part. 20 ish last time I checked this afternoon. windy.com is saying 17µg/m³ now. Indoors w/filters, no problem. It was nice 10ish days ago, and I actually thought smog season was over, till this week. Hopefully rain before the end of the month. Edited April 20, 2023 by KhunLA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanuman2547 Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, KhunLA said: Yes, A Muang This week, sucks, between AQI 50-75 at the house. IQair stating higher, but haven't a clue where they source their info, as state on site, no meter/contributor of theirs here. Probably 'sat' info. PM2.5 not a whole better, hence the sucks part. 20 ish last time I checked this afternoon. windy.com is saying 17µg/m³ now. Indoors w/filters, no problem. It was nice 10ish days ago, and I actually thought smog season was over, till this week. Hopefully rain before the end of the month. Ouch! Sorry to hear it has been so bad. It didn't used to be like that. I'll be there in December. Bought a house there a long time ago not too far from the main train station but I really don't spend much time there anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hanuman2547 said: Ouch! Sorry to hear it has been so bad. It didn't used to be like that. I'll be there in December. Bought a house there a long time ago not too far from the main train station but I really don't spend much time there anymore. Beats the hell out of Hua Hin @ 150+ and they do have meters there ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K2938 Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 (edited) 51 minutes ago, KhunLA said: Indoors w/filters, no problem. It was nice 10ish days ago, and I actually thought smog season was over, till this week. Hopefully rain before the end of the month. 1) Is your smog "locally produced" or is this coming down from Bangkok? 2) And what do you get the PM2.5 level down to with an air purifier indoors when it is this bad? (This says you have an AQI outside of 158 at the moment: https://aqicn.org/station/thailand/prachuap-khiri-khan/gaia-10). Thanks. Edited April 20, 2023 by K2938 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 10 minutes ago, K2938 said: 1) Is your smog "locally produced" or is this coming down from Bangkok? 2) And what do you get the PM2.5 level down to with an air purifier indoors when it is this bad? (This says you have an AQI outside of 158 at the moment: https://aqicn.org/station/thailand/prachuap-khiri-khan/gaia-10). Thanks. Sea salt aerosol, look it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 10 minutes ago, Hummin said: Sea salt aerosol, look it up Sea salt particles can also release halogens to the air. Their resulting chemical reactions affect the amount of ozone and methane, both greenhouse gases, which may further impact temperatures. https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2019gl085838#:~:text=Sea salt particles can also,which may further impact temperatures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 19 minutes ago, K2938 said: 1) Is your smog "locally produced" or is this coming down from Bangkok? 2) And what do you get the PM2.5 level down to with an air purifier indoors when it is this bad? (This says you have an AQI outside of 158 at the moment: https://aqicn.org/station/thailand/prachuap-khiri-khan/gaia-10). Thanks. Whoa ... 158 ... sucks being there. That's SE of us, and winds coming from the W. If our PM2.5 is 17µg/m³, then we can't be nowhere near that AQI # We keep air indoors at single digits Pollution now would be local or from Myanmar, as winds are coming from west. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhunLA Posted April 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 23, 2023 On 4/20/2023 at 11:47 PM, Hanuman2547 said: Ouch! Sorry to hear it has been so bad. It didn't used to be like that. I'll be there in December. Bought a house there a long time ago not too far from the main train station but I really don't spend much time there anymore. Getting back to 'normal' non smog season readings. Not yesterday, as had to be AQI 100+, and could barely see the hills E/W at 5/10 kms away. Today much better, and meter for the indoor air at the house. Local weather/AQI station: Non local station site guesstimate (AQair): Inside our house: Outdoor temp: THINK REAL HARD BEFORE RETIRING IN TH 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hindy Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 On 4/20/2023 at 11:37 PM, KhunLA said: Yes, A Muang This week, sucks, between AQI 50-75 at the house. IQair stating higher, but haven't a clue where they source their info, as state on site, no meter/contributor of theirs here. Probably 'sat' info. PM2.5 not a whole better, hence the sucks part. 20 ish last time I checked this afternoon. windy.com is saying 17µg/m³ now. Indoors w/filters, no problem. It was nice 10ish days ago, and I actually thought smog season was over, till this week. Hopefully rain before the end of the month. I have a paid account with Windy.com the AQI reports including PM2.5 are only updated every few hours, it is not in real time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Hindy said: I have a paid account with Windy.com the AQI reports including PM2.5 are only updated every few hours, it is not in real time. Windy is fairly accurate, most times. I go by our local weather/AQI station, and vastly different from most other sites, sometimes. But always agrees with my meter +/-. No surprise since only couple kms away from house: Now ... local: IQair: Edited April 25, 2023 by KhunLA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reginald Prewster Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 On 4/18/2023 at 12:39 PM, digger70 said: Yep that's fine , only one tiny problem Can't get Insurance and if one can it's at over the top premiums with a lot off exclusions for preexisting conditions. So for us Old Sods that means if one Can get insurance we pay for healthcare what we Don't get. Well I pay 120.000 THB for 5 Mil EUR coverage (my wife and myself) which is about EUR 3.200 per year or ruff 266 EUR per month. The same private health coverage in Germany would be around 580 EUR per month for me alone. That is very cheap when I compare the Hopitals and their services.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonbridgebrit Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 On 4/18/2023 at 5:22 AM, webfact said: How can I be eligible for O visa in Thailand? by Kriti Sharma Photo: Freepik Thailand is a popular destination for expats, digital nomads, and retirees looking for a new adventure. To stay in Thailand for an extended period, a non-immigrant visa is required, with several categories to choose from. The average stereo-typical bloke doing a retirement in Thailand does not look like the bloke above. The bloke above has also got a white girlfriend, but the vast bulk of people retiring in Thailand have got a Thai girl-friend or wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thingamabob Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Friendly people, warm weather, good food, good healthcare, good infrastructure, beautiful beaches, beautiful mountains, good hotels, good restaurants, reasonable living costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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