COVID-19 infections on the rise with 1,811 cases and 10 deaths last week

[Burma Bill]

8 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

One doctor here recently estimated that COVID infections in Thailand could be running 13,000 to 18,000 per week.

With respect to the doctor, an assumption rather than fact?? (could be/are). As I do not live in Thailand, I will refrain from further comment. Good luck with your Covid campaign. 

[redwood1]

8 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

A fraction over one death a day. Okay. Now, how many a day died of cancer, diabetes etc etc etc.

Sir Other diseases are boring....Deaths from any other disease but covid are boring too......But if anyone has covid thats headline news...

[Sunderland]

9 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

A fraction over one death a day. Okay. Now, how many a day died of cancer, diabetes etc etc etc.

There is an annual death rate of approximately 8 per 1,000 people in Thailand. Based on a population of around 70 million, that is about 560,000 deaths per year or just over 1,500 per day.

[Sunderland]

9 hours ago, AustinRacing said:

I’d multiply the figures by many times more. Some of my Thai friends who got it never went to hospital. Apparently it’s a shameful thing to admit. I am around many migrant workers. They were riddled with it during the pandemic. All were scared of going anywhere near authorities. 

Ashamed to have a coronavirus? Wow! Are they also ashamed of having a rhinovirus? 

[Scott]

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[Bangkok Barry]

2 hours ago, Sunderland said:

There is an annual death rate of approximately 8 per 1,000 people in Thailand. Based on a population of around 70 million, that is about 560,000 deaths per year or just over 1,500 per day.

Thanks. So I wonder why the one Covid death a day gets the headlines. Bizarre, isn't it.

[sidneybear]

6 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

Thanks. So I wonder why the one Covid death a day gets the headlines. Bizarre, isn't it.

Covid is the first disease in the world to have a marketing department.

[JensenZ]

On 5/2/2023 at 6:47 PM, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

A sensible thinking person would be concerned about both.

I've seen a lot of Thai people riding motocycles with no helmet but wearing face masks, so I would say Covid is the main concern.

[jacko45k]

20 hours ago, redwood1 said:

I dont know where you live but the number of mask wearing Thais in Pattaya is way way way down from a few months ago...

Yes indeed... although at weekends the numbers go up with the influx of domestic tourists, so quite a few to be seen in Malls. 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

8 hours ago, sidneybear said:

Covid is the first disease in the world to have a marketing department.

If Thailand road crash or liver disease hospitalizations had increased TEN-fold in one month as COVID hospitalizations have here, then those issues would be making headlines as well.

 

No matter how you try to spin it otherwise, we're talking about COVID more now because COVID hospitalizations in Thailand went from 168 for the first week of April to 1,811 last week -- now the highest level of the year.

 

COVID doesn't need a marketing department when those kinds of hospitalization stats are occurring here, because more and more people have been getting sick from COVID and ending up in the hospital.

 

You didn't see daily headlines on COVID earlier this year when weekly COVID hospitalizations in Thailand were bumping along at under 200 per week.

 

Under 200 per week isn't big news. But suddenly increasing to nearly 2,000 per week is.

 

 

Edited May 4, 2023 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[hashmodha]

Thanks for this....Do we know anything about this information by area?

[h90]

16 hours ago, Sunderland said:

Ashamed to have a coronavirus? Wow! Are they also ashamed of having a rhinovirus? 

I don't know ashamed but I know several people, myself including who didn't bother to go somewhere or tell someone

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

3 minutes ago, hashmodha said:

Thanks for this....Do we know anything about this information by area?

 

MoPH has a website that shows the weekly new COVID hospitalizations by province... But it's all in TH language, so you need to be able to navigate that.

 

https://ddc.moph.go.th/covid19-dashboard/?dashboard=province

 

I did a post previously here that translated and listed various of the top handful of provinces by hospitalization count for the most recent week, along with some lesser ones with a lot of expats.

 

Bangkok -- 525

Chonburi -- 148

Nonthaburi -- 112

Lamphun -- 100

Surat Thani -- 99

Khon Kaen --  66

Pathum Thani -- 50

Prachuap Khiri Khan -- 42

Chiang Mai -- 2

Phuket -- 1

 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1293588-new-covid-hospitalizations-continue-their-sharp-rise-for-fifth-consecutive-week/?do=findComment&comment=18054005

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

"Deputy Bangkok Governor Thavida Kamolvech reported on Wednesday that the city has recently witnessed an average of 1,000 daily Covid infections, 10 times the daily average recorded in late March.

 

As the new school term is set to begin around mid-month, there is a risk of Covid caseloads increasing even further, Kamolvech warned."

 

https://thethaiger.com/news/national/nhso-seeks-funds-for-additional-flu-vaccine-doses-amid-rising-covid-19-cases

 

Hard to know when this EN news source translates info from the original Thai, whether the deputy governor here is actually counting and reporting mere COVID infections (which the TH government doesn't publicly tally or report anymore), or COVID hospitalizations (which is what they currently count as "cases.")

 

The last weekly report from the Ministry of Public Health said Bangkok province had 525 new COVID hospitalizations from last week.

 

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[sidneybear]

1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

If Thailand road crash or liver disease hospitalizations had increased TEN-fold in one month as COVID hospitalizations have here, then those issues would be making headlines as well.

What about influenza epidemics, or even heavy colds that put old folk in hospital and can develop life threatening complications? Those boring old fashioned diseases don't have marketing departments, so we never hear of them, unless a really nasty one comes along. I'm an asthma sufferer, so I get an annual flu shot and think nothing more about it. Covid is the only such (these days mild) ailment that features all this fear porn as if it were the bubonic plague.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

20 minutes ago, sidneybear said:

What about influenza epidemics, or even heavy colds that put old folk in hospital and can develop life threatening complications? Those boring old fashioned diseases don't have marketing departments, so we never hear of them, unless a really nasty one comes along. I'm an asthma sufferer, so I get an annual flu shot and think nothing more about it. Covid is the only such (these days mild) ailment that features all this fear porn as if it were the bubonic plague.

 

Perhaps you don't understand the concept of NEWS... a central element of which is NEW.....

 

If something has been running at 1000 per month year after year, that doesn't make news so much, because it's just the same thing ongoing.

 

But if something suddenly shoots up from 100 to 1000 per month, that tends to make more NEWS, because it's NEW.

 

That's the way the NEWS business works, whether for COVID or anything else.

 

But, since you mentioned it, FWIW, COVID since the start of the pandemic has killed far more people in the U.S. -- where they keep and make public good stats on such things -- than influenza has.. It's not even a close comparison.

 

"Over the past 12 years, the flu’s estimated annual death toll has been as low as 12,000, but never higher than 61,000—just an eighth of COVID’s death toll in the first year of the pandemic.

 

Since the earliest days of the pandemic, weekly COVID deaths have been at least 15 times that of weekly flu deaths—and sometimes as much as 811 times."

 

 

https://fortune.com/well/2022/09/27/why-covid-isnt-like-the-flu-death-toll-leading-cause-death-omicron-shot-booster-vaccine/

 

 

Edited May 4, 2023 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[sidneybear]

16 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Perhaps you don't understand the concept of NEWS... a central element of which is NEW.....

 

If something has been running at 1000 per month year after year, that doesn't make news so much, because it's just the same thing ongoing.

 

But if something suddenly shoots up from 100 to 1000 per month, that tends to make more NEWS, because it's NEW.

 

That's the way the NEWS business works, whether for COVID or anything else.

 

But, since you mentioned it, FWIW, COVID since the start of the pandemic has killed far more people in the U.S. -- where they keep and make public good stats on such things -- than influenza has.. It's not even a close comparison.

 

"Over the past 12 years, the flu’s estimated annual death toll has been as low as 12,000, but never higher than 61,000—just an eighth of COVID’s death toll in the first year of the pandemic.

 

Since the earliest days of the pandemic, weekly COVID deaths have been at least 15 times that of weekly flu deaths—and sometimes as much as 811 times."

 

 

https://fortune.com/well/2022/09/27/why-covid-isnt-like-the-flu-death-toll-leading-cause-death-omicron-shot-booster-vaccine/

 

 

Covid isn't new anymore though. It was scary at first because it came from nowhere, spreads like wildfire, and the initial strains were quite nasty. Now it's no worse than a heavy cold or flu, and the world has moved on. It's yesterday's news, but it's marketing machine clings on to something that few people still worry about. 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

And more news for the day... Not just Thailand, but elsewhere in SE Asia now as well...

Covid Rise Tests Malaysia Hospitals as Philippines Reopens Wards

"Rising Covid cases are threatening to overstrain Malaysia’s crowded hospitals and the Philippines reopened its coronavirus treatment wards amid a surge in Southeast Asia, underscoring the need for governments to adjust to the disease’s ebb and flow in a world now living with the virus."

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-05-04/covid-rise-tests-malaysia-hospitals-as-philippines-reopens-wards#xj4y7vzkg

 

 

Malaysia faces new Covid-19 wave as more get hospitalised

 

On April 22, data showed that beds in intensive care units are 67 per cent occupied, and several private hospitals were full.

 

"KUALA LUMPUR – Malaysia is facing a fresh wave of Covid-19 cases that has seen test kits being snapped up, more people being hospitalised, and experts advising the public to avoid crowded places.

...

Health Ministry data showed that cases inched up 0.6 per cent to 9,780, and hospitalisations rose by 9.2 per cent to 3,381 in the 14 days to April 29. Daily confirmed cases on April 29 totalled 1,050. Deaths attributable to Covid-19 have risen by 25 per cent."

 

https://asianews.network/malaysia-faces-new-covid-19-wave-as-more-get-hospitalised/

 

 

[ThailandRyan]

It was only a matter of time before cases around the world started to increase with the opening up of venues for different celebrations, Songkran being Thailand's celebration that brought hundred of thousands together in close proximity.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

And the Philippines:

 

DOH orders hospitals to reopen COVID-19 wards

...

"The latest COVID-19 data from the DOH showed that the daily case average grew by 42 percent last week at 632 infections per day nationwide.

 

“All areas are on an uptrend, with NCR (National Capital Region) exhibiting the steepest increase,” the health department said in its latest report."

 

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1764541/doh-orders-hospitals-to-reopen-covid-19-wards

 

[sidneybear]

1 minute ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

And more news for the day... Not just Thailand, but elsewhere in SE Asia now as well...

Covid Rise Tests Malaysia Hospitals as Philippines Reopens Wards

"Rising Covid cases are threatening to overstrain Malaysia’s crowded hospitals and the Philippines reopened its coronavirus treatment wards amid a surge in Southeast Asia, underscoring the need for governments to adjust to the disease’s ebb and flow in a world now living with the virus."

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-05-04/covid-rise-tests-malaysia-hospitals-as-philippines-reopens-wards#xj4y7vzkg

 

 

Malaysia faces new Covid-19 wave as more get hospitalised

 

On April 22, data showed that beds in intensive care units are 67 per cent occupied, and several private hospitals were full.

 

"KUALA LUMPUR – Malaysia is facing a fresh wave of Covid-19 cases that has seen test kits being snapped up, more people being hospitalised, and experts advising the public to avoid crowded places.

...

Health Ministry data showed that cases inched up 0.6 per cent to 9,780, and hospitalisations rose by 9.2 per cent to 3,381 in the 14 days to April 29. Daily confirmed cases on April 29 totalled 1,050. Deaths attributable to Covid-19 have risen by 25 per cent."

 

https://asianews.network/malaysia-faces-new-covid-19-wave-as-more-get-hospitalised/

If people are sick, may they promptly get better. But headlines like that - hospitals being overwhelmed - have been common all around the world. We haven't seen people stacked up in hospital corridors on stretchers since the much milder omicron strain displaced the nastier ones, now have we?

[sidneybear]

10 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

It was only a matter of time before cases around the world started to increase with the opening up of venues for different celebrations, Songkran being Thailand's celebration that brought hundred of thousands together in close proximity.

Being in close proximity to other human beings is a joyous and instinctive need. I'm so glad we've resumed doing it, and that the authoritarian and controlling covid cult is being largely ignored. 

 

Edited May 4, 2023 by sidneybear

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

16 minutes ago, sidneybear said:

Being in close proximity to other human beings is a fundamental and instinctive need. I'm so glad we've resumed doing it.

Even if it means people getting sick and dying from COVID?

 

I'd hope, speaking personally, that people would tailor their social behaviors to the public health situation that's occurring around them... either good or bad.

 

Still much lower COVID case counts right now than in 2021 and 2022. But a definite resurgence this year as we moved into the spring.

 

Malaysia reported COVID cases since the start of the year:

Source link:

 

Philippines reported COVID cases since the start of the year:

 

Source link:

 

PS - the Bloomberg news report linked above on rising COVID cases in Malaysia and the Philippines is a headline in today's Bangkok Post as well.

 

 

Edited May 4, 2023 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[sidneybear]

16 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Even if it means people getting sick and dying from COVID?

 

I'd hope, speaking personally, that people would tailor their social behaviors to the public health situation that's occurring around them... either good or bad.

 

Still much lower COVID case counts right now than in 2021 and 2022. But a definite resurgence since the start of this year.

 

Malaysia reported COVID cases since the start of the year:

Source link:

 

Malaysia reported COVID cases since the start of the year:

 

Source link:

 

People have been catching colds and flu since time immemorial. Very sadly, a few succumb. People travel by road, and sadly a few succumb. Some people choose  to go BASE jumping, knowing that there is a chance that each jump may be their last.

 

Unfortunately, living life involves taking risks. Those who don’t want to take these risks can of course isolate themselves voluntarily,  which is their right, but most people seem to willingly take such risks in exchange for enjoyment of a fulfilling and socially active life. People delight in spending time with each other, unrestricted by intrusion from the government. Loneliness and isolation are dreaded by most normal human beings, such is our nature. How many of those hospitalised patients would choose a life of eternal lockdown over freely mixing with their family, friends and colleagues? Even as an asthma sufferer, I'd rather risk death than miss out on life.

 

Edited May 4, 2023 by sidneybear

[redwood1]

30 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Even if it means people getting sick and dying from COVID?

 

I'd hope, speaking personally, that people would tailor their social behaviors to the public health situation that's occurring around them... either good or bad.

 

Still much lower COVID case counts right now than in 2021 and 2022. But a definite resurgence this year as we moved into the spring.

 

Malaysia reported COVID cases since the start of the year:

Source link:

 

Philippines reported COVID cases since the start of the year:

 

Source link:

 

PS - the Bloomberg news report linked above on rising COVID cases in Malaysia and the Philippines is a headline in today's Bangkok Post as well.

 

 

Some of us are quite happy to take or chances mask free and guideline free indefinitely ...

[DD86]

23 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

No, it's COVID hospitalizations in Thailand are surging again, up 10-fold in the past month to an average of 258 new COVID hospitalizations per day....

 

That's why you're seeing multiple news reports on the subject lately... If crimes or traffic accidents increased 10-fold in a month, you'd  be reading about those increases too.

 

April 2-8, 2023

 

April 23-29, 2023

 

https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/photos

 

How many jabs did you take, John?

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[TallGuyJohninBKK]

46 minutes ago, redwood1 said:

Some of us are quite happy to take or chances mask free and guideline free indefinitely ...

 

Sometimes "indefinitely" ends up being a lot shorter than people expect, especially when they ignore common sense public health protection measures.

 

From the Thai MoPH in the past few days, via Google Translate:

 

"Dr. Tares Krassanirawiwong, M.D. The Director-General of the Department of Disease Control mentioned the case of a 34-year-old Burmese man who died in a room in Sathorn District, Bangkok and ATK examination found COVID-19 on April 17, 2023.

 

The results of the investigation showed that The deceased worked as a factory worker in Bangkok, had never received the COVID-19 vaccine before, and had no history of receiving COVID-19 treatment before his death. Songkran Festival The deceased played Songkran water with friends. And started to have a fever, red eyes, buy medicine and take it yourself, but stay in the room.

 

Did not receive treatment at a hospital until someone found him dead in the room Computed tomography (CT scan) of the corpse by Chulalongkorn Hospital. compatible with severe pneumonia As for the results of the laboratory tests of the Department of Medical Sciences, it was found that the COVID-19 strain Omicron XBB.1.16.1"

 

https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/posts/pfbid07esigpoWz7ozMdMp8WFokfyaysYU6n4fWWWBGKp7wU31JaF3YNEhmSdLp492dk8Bl

 

[sidneybear]

31 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Sometimes "indefinitely" ends up being a lot shorter than people expect, especially when they ignore common sense public health protection measures

It's sad that this 34 year old succumbed at such a young age. That said the chances of a 34 year old dying of covid, even if unvaccinated, are just 1.4 in 10,000, or 0.014%

 

https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/covid-19-chart-updated-with-omicron-risk-of-death

 

The chance of dying in a road traffic accident in Thailand is 32.7 in 100,000, or 0.0327%

 

https://www.who.int/thailand/news/detail/03-01-2023-a-new-year-s-resolution--for-life#:~:text=In its most recent global,per 100%2C000 population (2018).

 

I think that this poor man was incredibly unlucky, but I don't think that Songkran celebrations nationwide should have been cancelled. 

[Mr Dome]

On 5/3/2023 at 7:43 AM, DavisH said:

and 0% in restaurants...lol

So, you're in favor of that?

 

With restaurants, we have a choice - ilke don't go to the crowded ones - with public transportation, most don't ????.