Social Media Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 Donald Trump hosted the controversial Saudi Arabian LIV golf tour at his Bedminster course in July 2022, and his Doral course in October 2022 On Thursday the New York Times reported that the Justice Department had issued a subpoena for documents relating to Trump's agreement with the tour It is unclear what the subpoenas, sent to the Trump Organization, relate to but the New York Times said it suggested a probe into the family firm Daily Mail Full story : 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thailand Posted May 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2023 Not too difficult. He owns many of the golf courses where the Saudi LIV is holding their events so knowing Trump there is sure to be something untoward going on. $2 billion for Jared for starters. 1 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scubascuba3 Posted May 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2023 Ridiculous investigating that 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stevenl Posted May 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said: Ridiculous investigating that Why? 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scubascuba3 Posted May 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2023 1 hour ago, stevenl said: Why? He owns golf courses, PGA is probably bullying golf courses to not work with LIV, so win win for LIV and trump. BTW LIV events are much more entertaining than run of the mill PGA events 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post stevenl Posted May 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2023 50 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said: He owns golf courses, PGA is probably bullying golf courses to not work with LIV, so win win for LIV and trump. BTW LIV events are much more entertaining than run of the mill PGA events Which is no reason at all to not investigate possible bribery/corruption. 2 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted May 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2023 1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said: He owns golf courses, PGA is probably bullying golf courses to not work with LIV, so win win for LIV and trump. BTW LIV events are much more entertaining than run of the mill PGA events Funny how the Saudis decided to go big with golf. Something that Trump happens to be deeply invested in. 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 300sd Posted May 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2023 Another non news story to get him. One would think that someone doesn't want Trump to run. Or they are getting worried. Biden trails behind Trump and DeSantis in a poll. All those mainstream news people can believe they're mainstream news now: https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/newspolitics/biden-trails-behind-trump-and-desantis-in-2024-general-election-matchups-poll/ar-AA1aR7H6 1 2 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bendejo Posted May 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, 300sd said: One would think that someone doesn't want Trump to run. That someone would most definitely include the Republican Party. Mitch McConnell has already said, privately, that he expects the Dems to clean up his tangerine nightmare for him. It looks like DOJ is giving this one its own investigation, instead of adding it to Jack Smith's pile. Edited May 7, 2023 by bendejo 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bendejo Posted May 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2023 Check out the expressions on MBS 's face and you can tell what he thinks of the guy doing the talking. And don't forget they made him do the sword dance, seems the Saudis save that one for visiting Republicans. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 6 hours ago, placeholder said: Funny how the Saudis decided to go big with golf. Something that Trump happens to be deeply invested in. Saudi and LIV are trying to diversify from reliance on oil, could be football next 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 7 hours ago, stevenl said: Which is no reason at all to not investigate possible bribery/corruption. politically motivated. I guess Biden will have his turn 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stevenl Posted May 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2023 1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said: politically motivated. I guess Biden will have his turn Again that nonsense without any proof 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted May 7, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2023 (edited) The Saudi’s don’t eat pork, but they don’t mind buying it. Billions pouring into Trump and his family from Saudi Arabia. Has Trump been ‘Causeway wrapped’? This absolutely deserves investigation. Edited May 7, 2023 by Chomper Higgot 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EVENKEEL Posted May 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 8, 2023 10 hours ago, placeholder said: Funny how the Saudis decided to go big with golf. Something that Trump happens to be deeply invested in. Can you say conspiricy theory, these guys are looking to the future when oil stops being king. Not funny at all. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andycoops Posted May 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 8, 2023 12 hours ago, scubascuba3 said: He owns golf courses, PGA is probably bullying golf courses to not work with LIV, so win win for LIV and trump. BTW LIV events are much more entertaining than run of the mill PGA events Probably, possibly but his track record as a complete shister is undeniable, lock him up. As for crazy golf, just go to your local children's park and you'll see more 'entertainment' than the 54 hole jokers can provide. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Mist Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 An Off-topic posts and reply have been removed. The OP is not a discussion on selling US secrets, so please do not attempt to hijack the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted May 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 8, 2023 2 hours ago, EVENKEEL said: Can you say conspiricy theory, these guys are looking to the future when oil stops being king. Not funny at all. Now thats funny to say that Saudi is looking at golf to replace oil revenue which makes up around 40% of the Saudi's GDP. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptic7 Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 14 hours ago, scubascuba3 said: BTW LIV events are much more entertaining than run of the mill PGA events I could not disagree more. But to each their own. ⛳ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendejo Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 36 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: Now thats funny to say that Saudi is looking at golf to replace oil revenue which makes up around 40% of the Saudi's GDP. Only 40%? Is that accurate? If I had to guess I would think double that, at least. What else do they export besides dates? I met a young Indonesian fellow, in Indonesia, I guess I can call him a renegade Muslim. He was quite cynical of the Hajj, sees it as a way for Saudi to bring in $$$. Never thought of it that way before, I wonder what revenue religious tourism generates. But back to golf: the payoff would be ad revenue, which is what makes soccer (futbal) a cash cow. Maybe the players would be expected to be covered with corporate logos. I can't see lads all over the world getting all excited over watching golf tournaments, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 19 minutes ago, bendejo said: Only 40%? Is that accurate? If I had to guess I would think double that, at least. What else do they export besides dates? I met a young Indonesian fellow, in Indonesia, I guess I can call him a renegade Muslim. He was quite cynical of the Hajj, sees it as a way for Saudi to bring in $$$. Never thought of it that way before, I wonder what revenue religious tourism generates. But back to golf: the payoff would be ad revenue, which is what makes soccer (futbal) a cash cow. Maybe the players would be expected to be covered with corporate logos. I can't see lads all over the world getting all excited over watching golf tournaments, though. Got the information from this link. SA earned 80% of its export income with oil and makes up 40% of GDP. Hajj Tourism bring in about $8-9 billion. https://www.dw.com/en/skiing-in-saudi-arabia-fantasy-or-genuine-economic-change/a-62090850 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nahkit Posted May 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 8, 2023 7 hours ago, scubascuba3 said: Saudi and LIV are trying to diversify from reliance on oil, could be football next Saudi Arabia's state-controlled oil giant Aramco on Sunday reported a record net income of $161.1 billion for 2022 The PGA Tour is a $1.5-billion business that earns the majority of its revenue from five categories—tournament revenue ($660 million), domestic and international media rights ($634 million), Tournament Players Clubs ($142 million), corporate licensing ($65 million) and investments ($21 million). Think Saudi's/LIV are going to need to organise a few more tournaments if they want to diversify away from oil. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 4 hours ago, Andycoops said: Probably, possibly but his track record as a complete shister is undeniable, lock him up. As for crazy golf, just go to your local children's park and you'll see more 'entertainment' than the 54 hole jokers can provide. You obviously don't watch LIV golf, probably a pensioner who doesn't like change 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Skeptic7 said: I could not disagree more. But to each their own. ⛳ are you elderly? how much of LIV have you watched? it does seem more popular with younger golfers and non golfers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 1 hour ago, nahkit said: Saudi Arabia's state-controlled oil giant Aramco on Sunday reported a record net income of $161.1 billion for 2022 The PGA Tour is a $1.5-billion business that earns the majority of its revenue from five categories—tournament revenue ($660 million), domestic and international media rights ($634 million), Tournament Players Clubs ($142 million), corporate licensing ($65 million) and investments ($21 million). Think Saudi's/LIV are going to need to organise a few more tournaments if they want to diversify away from oil. i doubt anyone thought golf was going to replace oil 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Berkshire Posted May 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said: are you elderly? how much of LIV have you watched? it does seem more popular with younger golfers and non golfers I've watched LIV golf. It's just golf. Except with the same players every tournament, playing in shorts to blaring music. There's no history. No legacy. No professional significance. And of course no OWGR points. Just a bunch of rich guys playing for a ton of oil money. If that's your thing, more power to you. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Berkshire said: I've watched LIV golf. It's just golf. Except with the same players every tournament, playing in shorts to blaring music. There's no history. No legacy. No professional significance. And of course no OWGR points. Just a bunch of rich guys playing for a ton of oil money. If that's your thing, more power to you. are you elderly? it is more popular with younger golfers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Just now, scubascuba3 said: are you elderly? it is more popular with younger golfers I'm "older," but not that old. Single digit handicapper. Not sure how you would know it's popular with younger golfers. But even if so, would like to know why. I doubt the interest is genuine long-term, more like a curiosity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Berkshire said: I'm "older," but not that old. Single digit handicapper. Not sure how you would know it's popular with younger golfers. But even if so, would like to know why. I doubt the interest is genuine long-term, more like a curiosity. i really enjoy watching LIV and friends that watch it also enjoy it, we find PGA boring now, except majors. PGA seems flat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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