sotonfarang Posted May 10, 2023 Posted May 10, 2023 Hi all. My friends Thai wife is struggling with depression and we are trying to find out if therapists/someone professional to talk to are something that's available here. Not sure where to start looking. Any advice /suggestions would be greatly appreciated...and while I am here RIP Ubon Joe, helped me with so many things for the last 17 years, sleep tight mate, legend.
jacko45k Posted May 10, 2023 Posted May 10, 2023 There is a guy attends the Pattaya Expats Club....Nnamdi Samuels IIRC. although it would have to be in English. 1
fuehrio Posted May 11, 2023 Posted May 11, 2023 Bangkok Hospital but expensive. Thai mental hospital no 1 in my opinion is the Somdet Chao Phraya Hospital 1
jcmj Posted May 11, 2023 Posted May 11, 2023 There needs to be more places for people who are depressed and it should be paid for by the government. Depression can take a turn for the worst if left untreated and can come with severe consequences for those around them. Most people don’t want to admit it and they have a hard time accepting help. Nobody should be ashamed of feeling depressed and ostracized. Hopefully people will step up and offer help in a positive manner. 1 1
ezzra Posted May 11, 2023 Posted May 11, 2023 I have found out that depression and anxiety are an unfamiliar word in the Thai vocabulary and knowledge and thus the help that is being offered. 2
jimn Posted May 11, 2023 Posted May 11, 2023 2 hours ago, kingstonkid said: Ubon. Joe passed away and there was no big thing. Here. When Big topic on Monday you missed it
IvorBiggun2 Posted May 11, 2023 Posted May 11, 2023 Here's what I posted tuther day Quote I suffer bouts of depression and I had a bad spell about 2 weeks ago, still ongoing. My wife phoned around for an appointment at a couple of hospitals. Best that she could come up with was an appointment in 3 months. I have no choice but to self medicate. I live Buriram/Korat area. 1
Popular Post Tropposurfer Posted May 11, 2023 Popular Post Posted May 11, 2023 Sheryl as a first stop, and BNH call to check out availability for an initial consult. I'm in Phuket but not practicing now otherwise I could perhaps help. I would advise not to procrastinate at all and seek a consult as soon as can be arranged ... ... Even if your wife changes to another therapist after only 1 consult at least she'll be sitting with a therapist and getting initial care and some relief. If you are at all concerned for her safety then take her to BNH as soon as possible. I also recommend BNH they are a great institution. The fee is irrelevant where your wife's wellbeing is concerned, what is imperative is that you take caring and nurturing action without delay. I would advise watching carefully, monitor her state of mind, take her to places she likes and are calming, happy, and safe, maybe don't let her drive AND NOT ride a bike, if there are dangerous medications about put them in a safe place. If you have friends of family that aggravate or upset her ask them to stay away for a time. If you have any weapons in the home remove them, if your wife drinks then talk to her and explain that booze makes sadness much worse, and contract with her that the two of you will make sure she doesn't drink much. Let her know you don't judge her or think she is wrong in any way, and that she can talk to you at any time and doesn't need to lock her feelings away to herself. Its really important to let her know you see her as ok, that she is ok, and that her feelings matter and are all valid. Tell her 'directly' that you care, that you love her, and together we will move through this sadness. All the best mate. 2 1
Pink Mist Posted May 11, 2023 Posted May 11, 2023 Trolling posts of an unhelpful nature has been removed. Either stick to posting useful and valid information or move on. 1
zeekgarcia Posted May 11, 2023 Posted May 11, 2023 Several public hospitals have mental health departments, which the health care cost is at least partially, if not fully covered under the Thai social insurance program. 1
charliebadenhop Posted May 11, 2023 Posted May 11, 2023 If English can be used, I have been helping people for more than 40 years now..... 1
zeekgarcia Posted May 11, 2023 Posted May 11, 2023 Also there are some NGO's in bangkok, chiang mai and maybe in some other places around the country that have Thai psychiatrist, counselors or foreigners that speak Thai that can help. 1
Rimmer Posted May 11, 2023 Posted May 11, 2023 I am moving this over to the health forum to get some input from Sheryl 1 "Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast!" Arnold Judas Rimmer of Jupiter Mining Corporation Ship Red Dwarf
sotonfarang Posted May 11, 2023 Author Posted May 11, 2023 24 minutes ago, Sheryl said: @sotonfarang Where in Thailand are you located? Bang saray near pattaya
sotonfarang Posted May 11, 2023 Author Posted May 11, 2023 1 hour ago, zeekgarcia said: Several public hospitals have mental health departments, which the health care cost is at least partially, if not fully covered under the Thai social insurance program. Okay thank you
sotonfarang Posted May 11, 2023 Author Posted May 11, 2023 1 hour ago, charliebadenhop said: If English can be used, I have been helping people for more than 40 years now..... Thai is best I think thank you
sotonfarang Posted May 11, 2023 Author Posted May 11, 2023 3 hours ago, Tropposurfer said: Sheryl as a first stop, and BNH call to check out availability for an initial consult. I'm in Phuket but not practicing now otherwise I could perhaps help. I would advise not to procrastinate at all and seek a consult as soon as can be arranged ... ... Even if your wife changes to another therapist after only 1 consult at least she'll be sitting with a therapist and getting initial care and some relief. If you are at all concerned for her safety then take her to BNH as soon as possible. I also recommend BNH they are a great institution. The fee is irrelevant where your wife's wellbeing is concerned, what is imperative is that you take caring and nurturing action without delay. I would advise watching carefully, monitor her state of mind, take her to places she likes and are calming, happy, and safe, maybe don't let her drive AND NOT ride a bike, if there are dangerous medications about put them in a safe place. If you have friends of family that aggravate or upset her ask them to stay away for a time. If you have any weapons in the home remove them, if your wife drinks then talk to her and explain that booze makes sadness much worse, and contract with her that the two of you will make sure she doesn't drink much. Let her know you don't judge her or think she is wrong in any way, and that she can talk to you at any time and doesn't need to lock her feelings away to herself. Its really important to let her know you see her as ok, that she is ok, and that her feelings matter and are all valid. Tell her 'directly' that you care, that you love her, and together we will move through this sadness. All the best mate. Very helpful advice thanks. What's BNH ?
sotonfarang Posted May 11, 2023 Author Posted May 11, 2023 5 hours ago, fuehrio said: Bangkok Hospital but expensive. Thai mental hospital no 1 in my opinion is the Somdet Chao Phraya Hospital Where is that please?
Sheryl Posted May 11, 2023 Posted May 11, 2023 BNH is a private hospital in Bangkok but there are better and less costly alternatives in Bangkok for talk therapy. In the Pattaya area all you will find for a Thai are psychiatrists, who will prescribe drugs after a (usually very brief) consultation. (There are some Western therapists as well but geared entirely to farangs) Psychiatrists can be found in all large private hospitals (BPH, Memorial, Phyathai Sri Racha etc) and also at Chonburi regional hospital (government). I am not sure re Bang Lamung. Psychiatrists in government hospitals will be young, often still in training, and overworked....and definitely will not proivde talk therapy. In Bangkok, if she is willing to travel, the following have Thai therapists who can provide counselling: https://ncsbkk.com/ncs/index.php/counseling/about/ https://www.psiadmin.com/psis-professionals
Sheryl Posted May 11, 2023 Posted May 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, sotonfarang said: Where is that please? In Thonburi area of Bangkok https://somdet.go.th/ It is the nearest government psych facility (though as above, the regional hospital will also have at least one or two psyhciatrists). It too will be more apt to prescribe medicine than to provide talk therapy.
ChaiyaTH Posted May 11, 2023 Posted May 11, 2023 Unlike many people, I would suggest to first do a generic health check and see how much the person does in sports, how much on the phone and what the diet is.
fuehrio Posted May 11, 2023 Posted May 11, 2023 15 minutes ago, sotonfarang said: Where is that please? It's in BKK across the river (Thonburi area?) but I just read you are in Pattaya. However my wife was under treatment there for schizophrenia and as a Thai she preferred it over the private hospitals such as Bangkok Hospital. Can find on google maps
Jumbo1968 Posted May 11, 2023 Posted May 11, 2023 My mother suffered from depression, they say it’s hereditary, I often wake up in the morning feeling very depressed. What I do find is alcohol is one of the causes, I never drink more than 2 beers because anymore I know I will wake up feeling very depressed. My remedy is to focus on the day ahead and plan what I am going to do, I went through counselling but it didn’t help. 1 1 1
Andycoops Posted May 11, 2023 Posted May 11, 2023 In my experience mental health in Thailand is virtually unheard of. All you get us a brief consultation and a bucket of pills to take. There are no therapy sessions to attend and it's left to the family to try and help as best they can. At least this is my experience here in Isaan with a close family member. 2
sotonfarang Posted May 12, 2023 Author Posted May 12, 2023 Thank you.so much everyone. I thing Sri racha is a good option, if it's not good then bangkok would be the next. Really appreciate you all taking uour time to reply, advise and send links. ????
fuehrio Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 6 hours ago, Andycoops said: In my experience mental health in Thailand is virtually unheard of. All you get us a brief consultation and a bucket of pills to take. There are no therapy sessions to attend and it's left to the family to try and help as best they can. At least this is my experience here in Isaan with a close family member. It's not that its unheard, its in my opinion more or less a mass processing. There are maybe 20 to 50 patients assigned to one doctor (mostly young) who has a time window of maybe 15 minutes for the "counseling" hence no talk therapy either. Totally agree more or less you just get pills and the rest is left to the family without having the knowledge and capacity. This is indeed a huge lack in Thailand and patients / families could be helped much better if more time and counseling could be given. 1
JimTripper Posted May 16, 2023 Posted May 16, 2023 On 5/12/2023 at 6:25 AM, Andycoops said: In my experience mental health in Thailand is virtually unheard of. All you get us a brief consultation and a bucket of pills to take. There are no therapy sessions to attend and it's left to the family to try and help as best they can. At least this is my experience here in Isaan with a close family member. I wonder why. Don’t they have psychology majors in college and grad school? Seems like people would start private practices with group therapy or psychoanalysis. 1
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