JammG Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 Hello all, I am currently on a non o marriage extension but would like to change over to retirement extension when my current extension runs out. I can meet the requirements but have received conflicting info on whether this can be done in country at Cheng wattana, some have said yes it's possible others have said I need to go to Thai embassy/consulate outside of Thailand to obtain a fresh non o before I can then apply for retirement extension. Hopefully someone can clarify this for me or someone who has done the same thing would be able to confirm what I need to do. Many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhunBENQ Posted May 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 12, 2023 (edited) A popular question: https://aseannow.com/topic/1290794-switch-non-imm-o-extension-from-marriage-to-retirement/ https://aseannow.com/topic/1246859-can-i-change-from-marriage-to-retirement/ ... You can. Outside Thailand is nonsense info. No cancel and get new visa necessary. Edited May 12, 2023 by KhunBENQ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 OP, you can obtain your extension based on retirement at CW. Your wife will need to attend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Red Phoenix Posted May 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 12, 2023 Definitely possible to do it at your local Imm Office when your application for a 1-year extension of stay is due. It's simply a matter of applying for reason of retirement, instead of for reason of marriage. Obviously you would need to provide evidence that you meet the higher financial requirements for the 'retirement' application, i.e. evidence of +800K on your personal Thai bank-account seasoned for at least 2 months at moment of application. And unless you can prove that these funds have been already long time on your bank-account or accounts, you would also have to prove the foreign origins of those funds. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 Change from Marriage to Retirement? Easy. Changing back? Not so easy. Give it some thought. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MJCM Posted May 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 12, 2023 (edited) Good answers above, but please note if your marriage extension (example) expires on May 20th and you apply on May 15th, your next extension expiry date is May 15th of next year and not the 20th reason being it is a new extension. I did it and it was painless. Done in 20 mins and got the year stamp immediately instead of being under consideration Edited May 12, 2023 by MJCM Added expiry 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JammG Posted May 12, 2023 Author Share Posted May 12, 2023 54 minutes ago, DrJack54 said: OP, you can obtain your extension based on retirement at CW. Your wife will need to attend. 55 minutes ago, DrJack54 said: OP, you can obtain your extension based on retirement at CW. Your wife will need to attend. Why would I need my wife to attend? So it's not a case of applying 1 month in advance as per marriage extension for an under consideration stamp that's good. Thanks for all the replies so far, puts my mind at rest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 @JammG you asked... "Why would I need my wife to attend?" Most likely that you were still married during the previous extension. In any event wife needs to attend. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JammG Posted May 12, 2023 Author Share Posted May 12, 2023 Can anyone who has done this confirm wife has to attend? And if so is it for first renewal only? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MJCM Posted May 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 12, 2023 1 minute ago, DrJack54 said: @JammG you asked... "Why would I need my wife to attend?" Most likely that you were still married during the previous extension. In any event wife needs to attend. Exactly. It’s my understanding that your wife needs to be present because to acknowledge that she understands that you are switching. But as TiT, YMMV 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJCM Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 1 minute ago, JammG said: Can anyone who has done this confirm wife has to attend? And if so is it for first renewal only? Yep when I did the change wife needed to be present. For subsequent renewals (retirement) you can do it on your own 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJCM Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, JammG said: Can anyone who has done this confirm wife has to attend? And if so is it for first renewal only? May I ask why are you asking? Are you not together with your wife anymore? Or are you divorced, if divorced you need to let immigration know because the reason for your extension is not valid anymore the day you divorced Edited May 12, 2023 by MJCM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitalbanana Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, JammG said: Can anyone who has done this confirm wife has to attend? And if so is it for first renewal only? I changed from wife to retirement extension at CW and the wife certainly was not required to attend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritTim Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 1 hour ago, JammG said: Why would I need my wife to attend? The main reason is that the officials want to verify that you have been legally in Thailand up until the point you apply for the retirement extension. If you are divorced, your permission to stay is supposed to be cancelled on the date of the divorce. Having your wife present allows the officials to verify that everything is in order. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JammG Posted May 12, 2023 Author Share Posted May 12, 2023 Ok no problem, one of the reasons for change is to negate the headache get every year haha. Thanks guys for the replies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJCM Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 Just now, Digitalbanana said: I changed from wife to retirement extension at CW and the wife certainly was not required to attend. 5555 as usual TiT. Mine needed to be present but I am in Buriram, maybe (I guess) someone will say the opposite. Again the joy of inconsistency across IO’s 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitalbanana Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 1 minute ago, BritTim said: The main reason is that the officials want to verify that you have been legally in Thailand up until the point you apply for the retirement extension. Why would there be anything illegal in staying in Thailand up to the permitted date of extension? What has the wife got to do with anything that is retirement extension related. I am still happily married, but changed to retirement extension and at no time was the wife needed for the retirement change. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJCM Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, JammG said: Ok no problem, one of the reasons for change is to negate the headache get every year haha. Thanks guys for the replies. I only changed because I hated the under consideration period. Documents are not that much different and it was easy enough because I had them saved in the PC and just changed the dates 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJCM Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Digitalbanana said: Why would there be anything illegal in staying in Thailand up to the permitted date of extension? If he got divorced before the extension (marriage) ran out and did not inform IO Edited May 12, 2023 by MJCM Added marriage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritTim Posted May 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 12, 2023 Just now, Digitalbanana said: Why would there be anything illegal in staying in Thailand up to the permitted date of extension? What has the wife got to do with anything that is retirement extension related. I am still happily married, but changed to retirement extension and at no time was the wife needed for the retirement change. Why respond to a 5-line post before you have read the full post. If you take an extra two seconds to read the explanation why, you can avoid an argumentative post of no value to anyone. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JammG Posted May 12, 2023 Author Share Posted May 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, MJCM said: I only changed because I hated the under consideration period. Documents are not that much different and it was easy enough because I had them saved in the PC and just changed the dates Exactly & the fact I have to drag my wife & child all the way up there which takes all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, JammG said: Exactly & the fact I have to drag my wife & child all the way up there which takes all day. Couple of posts in thread pointing out change from based on marriage to retirement, did not require wife to be present. Quite possible however in the main the wife would need to attend for that change. For ongoing extensions not required. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 34 minutes ago, Digitalbanana said: Why would there be anything illegal in staying in Thailand up to the permitted date of extension? If divorce occurs then the extension no longer valid. If the wife dies then extension remains valid. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hakuna Matata Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 36 minutes ago, MJCM said: I only changed because I hated the under consideration period. Documents are not that much different and it was easy enough because I had them saved in the PC and just changed the dates The most stupid thing to do. What about the mandatory Health Insurance that costs around 50,000.- Baht or more per year? 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MJCM Posted May 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Hakuna Matata said: The most stupid thing to do. What about the mandatory Health Insurance that costs around 50,000.- Baht or more per year? ?????? What are you on about. It’s not a Non OA, retirement extension doesn’t have a mandatory health insurance 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritTim Posted May 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 12, 2023 16 minutes ago, Hakuna Matata said: The most stupid thing to do. What about the mandatory Health Insurance that costs around 50,000.- Baht or more per year? At the current time, an extension of stay based on retirement (unless you entered Thailand with a Non O-A visa) has no health insurance requirement. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingstonkid Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 3 hours ago, JammG said: Can anyone who has done this confirm wife has to attend? And if so is it for first renewal only? When dealing with immigration it is always best to cover all bases. Wife may not be needed but in the event she is you are covered. Whose name is house in. That's one of the things she can alleviate. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJCM Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, kingstonkid said: Whose name is house in. That's one of the things she can alleviate. Good Point. They (IO) wanted, on my change from Marriage -> Retirement the ID card of my Wife and after I got the year stamp I looked into my passport and also noticed a TM30 report automatically done (Wife is the House owner) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutt Daeng Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, MJCM said: Exactly. It’s my understanding that your wife needs to be present because to acknowledge that she understands that you are switching. But as TiT, YMMV That is what the officer at Kap Choeng told me when I changed from an extension based on marriage to one based on retirement. That was several years ago. Edited May 12, 2023 by Mutt Daeng 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingdongrb Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 4 hours ago, JammG said: Can anyone who has done this confirm wife has to attend? And if so is it for first renewal only? I changed from 'marriage' to 'retirement' at the CM IO back in 2016 and my wife wasn't present but I was informed that she needed to have the phone available if the officer was wanting to speak with her. He didn't call her. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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