Where can one get an AstraZeneca jab in Bkk? Should I bother?

[ubonr1971]

Any point in getting a booster? Long time since my last one. Dont know if I should bother or not. Thoughts

[Tom H]

AZ not, take a bivalent one.

In case you had Covid and you are healthy,  you might have enough T-cells.

 

????

 

 

Edited May 27, 2023 by Tom H

[GroveHillWanderer]

I don't think that's any point in going for an Astra Zeneca booster at this point. The original Covid strain it was designed to protect against has long since disappeared.

 

If you're going to get a booster, I would say the only one worth getting is a bivalent one (either Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna).

Edited May 27, 2023 by GroveHillWanderer

[ozimoron]

AZ is not recommended anymore and I believe not even available in Australia anymore. Get the bivalent vaccination and stop listening to misinformation about mRNA vaccines.

[ubonr1971]

12 hours ago, ozimoron said:

AZ is not recommended anymore and I believe not even available in Australia anymore. Get the bivalent vaccination and stop listening to misinformation about mRNA vaccines.

I have heart disease and cant take the other brands. Looks like I will have to rely on the good old immune system. 

[Lorry]

12 hours ago, ubonr1971 said:

I have heart disease and cant take the other brands

Heat disease is not a contraindication for mRNA vaccines. 

On the contrary,  if you are in a risk group you should get the new bivalent vaccine, 

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[DudleySquat]

On 5/27/2023 at 8:58 PM, ubonr1971 said:

Any point in getting a booster?

I am curious, what is your goal and expectation for getting this "booster?"

[freedomnow]

'Vaccine' is a misnomer is it....by this point blatantly clear....

 

 

'Short-term immune booster' is more a realistic term.....

 

 

...like orange juice. ????

[DudleySquat]

46 minutes ago, freedomnow said:

'Vaccine' is a misnomer is it....by this point blatantly clear....

 

 

'Short-term immune booster' is more a realistic term.....

 

 

...like orange juice. ????

I don't know what that means. 

[Tom H]

17 hours ago, ubonr1971 said:

I have heart disease and cant take the other brands. Looks like I will have to rely on the good old immune system. 

[Tom H]

17 hours ago, ubonr1971 said:

I have heart disease and cant take the other brands. Looks like I will have to rely on the good old immune system. 

Thats why AZ is not allowed in many countries anymore due to higher risks of blood clots. Take m-rna bivalent

[GroveHillWanderer]

That's simply not true. There is no vaccine that is 100% effective in preventing the disease it inoculates against. 

 

Some of the vaccines against common childhood diseases are incredibly effective, at over 90% -  but many others are not.

 

Seasonal flu vaccines for instance, are only around 30% effective. Some of the newer malaria vaccines are about 50% effective.

 

A Three-Dose Malaria Vaccine Shows Safety, Efficacy

 

A vaccine is merely a medical product that elicits an immune response against a specific pathogen.

 

And, as mentioned above, how effective vaccines can be varies widely, with many of them less efficacious than the Covid vaccines. 

 

It doesn't mean they aren't vaccines.

 

Edited May 29, 2023 by Pink Mist
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[AndyFoxy]

23 hours ago, ubonr1971 said:

I have heart disease and cant take the other brands. Looks like I will have to rely on the good old immune system. 

Safer

[Man Mart]

I couldn’t get any covid booster in neither the government hospital nor the private hospital in Surin last week as they both had none in stock!

[kingstonkid]

On 5/28/2023 at 12:04 PM, ubonr1971 said:

I have heart disease and cant take the other brands. Looks like I will have to rely on the good old immune system. 

If you are dealing with a hospital here then I would talk to them and see what they recommend.

[Fairynuff]

5 hours ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

That's simply not true.

It’s true if you love a good conspiracy theory 

[GroveHillWanderer]

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Are you sure there's thousands? According to the paper below from PubMed Central, between August 2020 and December 2022:

 

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A total of 5 relevant case reports were identified [where] COVID-19 vaccination led to arrhythmia, including atrial fibrillation within 14 days.

However, as that same paper also points out:

 

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It is always of debate to consider such arrhythmia due to chance or vaccine induced. [...] there is no way to prove a direct association between vaccines and arrhythmias currently ...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9926928/

[Mario Cosmopolite]

24 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

Are you sure there's thousands? According to the paper below from PubMed Central, between August 2020 and December 2022:

 

However, as that same paper also points out:

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9926928/

Quotes you provided are misleading. Did you read the conclusion?:

"We propose that mRNA vaccination is associated with cardiac endothelial inflammation, which may lead to arrhythmia, including AF."

[DudleySquat]

12 hours ago, Tom H said:

You are not well informed and have no clue

Be specific. 

[Pink Mist]

A misinformation rambling flame post has been removed as well as Unsubstantiated Misinformation posts.

[Paradise Pete]

 

Statistically you're better off with the vaccine. People can go on and on about "the jab", but we have real-world data. Play the odds.

 

[Tom H]

1 hour ago, DudleySquat said:

Be specific. 

Makes no sense because you dont know the differences between B cells and T cells and how it is with vulnerable group of people. Here in Thailand die right now 45 people a week, makes one plane a month.

 

Read some study about the effects and probabilities for the i.e. heart deseases and m-rna protection.

 

1000 of studies worlwide.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

I'm not aware of any reason that someone with heart disease would be advised by knowledgeable doctors to NOT receive a mRNA COVID vaccine.

 

On 5/28/2023 at 12:04 PM, ubonr1971 said:

I have heart disease and cant take the other brands. Looks like I will have to rely on the good old immune system. 

 

COVID mRNA vaccines are safe in patients with heart failure

22 Aug 2022

 

"Barcelona, Spain – 22 Aug 2022: COVID mRNA vaccines are associated with a decreased risk of death in patients with heart failure, according to research presented at ESC Congress 2022.¹ The study also found that the vaccines were not associated with an increased risk of worsening heart failure, venous thromboembolism or myocarditis in heart failure patients.

 

“Our results indicate that heart failure patients should be prioritised for COVID-19 vaccinations and boosters,” said study author Dr. Caroline Sindet-Pedersen of Herlev and Gentofe Hospital, Hellerup, Denmark. “COVID-19 vaccines will continue to be important for preventing morbidity and mortality in vulnerable patient populations. Thus, studies emphasising the safety of these vaccines are essential to reassure those who might be hesitant and ensure continued uptake of vaccinations.”

 

https://www.escardio.org/The-ESC/Press-Office/Press-releases/COVID-mRNA-vaccines-are-safe-in-patients-with-heart-failure

 

 

[Tom H]

18 hours ago, Man Mart said:

I couldn’t get any covid booster in neither the government hospital nor the private hospital in Surin last week as they both had none in stock!

Come to Bangkok:).