President Biden spoke at Arlington National Cemetery to honor fallen soldiers on Memorial Day.

[Jingthing]

Fascist dictators can first be elected in democratic elections.

But in the case of Trump I say take power because I think his most likely path to taking power again is:

 

Losing the election

Claiming he won

Staging a successful coup

(OR)

inciting civil war

[fusion58]

6 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Glad to hear you opposed that. Do you agree with what Biden did in stirring up the war in Europe? You do know they profit from it.

Thanks for the official position of the Putin propaganda apparatus.

 

Meanwhile, here in reality, it was Putin who started the war in Europe.

[ozimoron]

23 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

What is it with you guys? Why not be adults and have a fair race, and respect all runners. Disgraceful behaviour. 

What is unfair about bring up Trump's draft dodging history on Memorial Day? You guys are just straw clutching here. 

[Mac Mickmanus]

13 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

What is unfair about bring up Trump's draft dodging history on Memorial Day? You guys are just straw clutching here. 

I do recall that we seem to have discussed that topic previously , actually, that topic has been discussed  numerous times and in depth and there's really nothing new to add to that discussion .

    You are talking about something that happened 50 years ago !!!!!!!! 

[Neeranam]

15 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

What is unfair about bring up Trump's draft dodging history on Memorial Day? You guys are just straw clutching here. 

This topic has nothing to do with Trump.

 

What do you mean 'you guys'?

[candide]

14 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

What is unfair about bring up Trump's draft dodging history on Memorial Day? You guys are just straw clutching here. 

Well  Trump is such an embarrassment that they prefer he's not mentioned here. 

 

[Hanaguma]

18 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

What is unfair about bring up Trump's draft dodging history on Memorial Day? You guys are just straw clutching here. 

Might be a reason for both leading politicians to step a bit small on Memorial Day. Neither served their country when asked.  Looking back on the mess that was Vietnam, it is hard to blame them. Respect to the men who DID go and did their best to serve honorably under god-awful conditions. 

[Neeranam]

2 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

 Respect to the men who DID go and did their best to serve honorably under god-awful conditions. 

Was the average age of the combat soldier really 19?

What a total waste of lives. 

[stevenl]

11 hours ago, Neeranam said:

"we must never forget" -  what he says throughout each day 

 

2 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Actually, yes. Ignore the comments. At least for the day. Rise above the swamp. 

All hope was gone after the first post.

[Jingthing]

Trying to defend trump or play acting that its normal for such a man to appear to be the inevitable challenger to the incumbent President is way beyond putting lipstick on a pig or shall I say "pig". It's more like dressing a cock-a-roach in a tuxedo.

 

Donald Trump Ripped Apart For Tone-Deaf Memorial Day Message (okmagazine.com)

 

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'A Traitor to His Country!': Donald Trump Ripped Apart for Tone-Deaf Memorial Day Message

 

[Mac Mickmanus]

18 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Was the average age of the combat soldier really 19?

What a total waste of lives. 

All those who remember the war
They won't forget what they've seen
Destruction of men in their prime
Whose average age was nineteen

[Neeranam]

12 minutes ago, stevenl said:

 

All hope was gone after the first post.

That first post was deflected beautifully by someone bringing Trump into the conversation. Funny really, that's all they can do when the truth about there man is revealed. 

 

[fusion58]

42 minutes ago, candide said:

Well  Trump is such an embarrassment that they prefer he's not mentioned here. 

 

Exactly.

 

That's what all the "how disrespectful of you to bring this stuff up in a Memorial Day thread!" pearl clutching is really about.

 

Too transparent.

[Mac Mickmanus]

3 minutes ago, fusion58 said:

Exactly.

 

That's what all the "how disrespectful of you to bring this stuff up in a Memorial Day thread!" pearl clutching is really about.

 

Too transparent.

Thats not true.

Trump supporters do not regard him as an embarrassment  and are quite happy to talk about him .

   This is a thread about Joe Biden at a memorial day , a memorial day for fallen soldiers and the Biden V Trump bickerers really should give it a rest in this thread and take there squabbles elsewhere 

[Jingthing]

Something more unifying.

A JFK Memorial day speech.

A president that enjoyed bipartisan support.

 

 

[Mac Mickmanus]

4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Something more unifying.

A JFK Memorial day speech.

A president that enjoyed bipartisan support.

 

Although he did end up getting assassinated by

[Neeranam]

3 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Although he did end up getting assassinated by

the mob?

[candide]

I must have dreamed I replied to a post, ????

[candide]

4 hours ago, fusion58 said:

Funny you should mention Iraq...

 

The Trump disciples who are now posturing as an "anti-war" movement are the same people who called me a traitor and a rotten patriot when I opposed Dubya's illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq.

 

 

They were likely singing the national anthem while U.S. missiles were flying over Irak, and also boycotting French fries! ????

[Mac Mickmanus]

4 hours ago, fusion58 said:

Funny you should mention Iraq...

 

The Trump disciples who are now posturing as an "anti-war" movement are the same people who called me a traitor and a rotten patriot when I opposed Dubya's illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq.

 

 

Yet another example of there the Left and Right have changed sides .

   Previously it was the Right wing who wanted wars in foreign land and the Left wingers were all giving the peace sign.

   These days its the complete opposite, with the Left wing wanting wars in foreign Countries and the Right wing giving peace signs 

    

  

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Yet another example of there the Left and Right have changed sides .

   Previously it was the Right wing who wanted wars in foreign land and the Left wingers were all giving the peace sign.

   These days its the complete opposite, with the Left wing wanting wars in foreign Countries and the Right wing giving peace signs 

    

  

You're forgetting or don't know about WW2.

It was the right wing America First antisemitic fascists that admired Hitler and opposed entering the war. Yes they were called America First. Trump copied them.

Of course progressive FDR knew that the US must be involved.

Not saying FDR was perfect.

Just refuting your point.

 

It depends on the war. 

 

Of course the Bush invasion of Iraq was a massive mistake. 

 

But getting involved in WW2 was a necessary war as is supporting Ukraine against the genocidal fascist dictator Putin.

 

[Neeranam]

7 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Of course the Bush invasion of Iraq was a massive mistake. 

Not mistake, crime. 

[proton]

15 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Something more unifying.

A JFK Memorial day speech.

A president that enjoyed bipartisan support.

 

 

Tragedy for the world and America that forces beyond his control executed him in broad daylight. He had already signed an executive order to start bringing armed forces personal back from Vietnam, LBJ changed that and many of his other progressive polices. The world would be a better place today if he had lived. Both Trump and Biden refused to release all the documents on his killing which should by law have been released in 2017, nothing to hide of course!!

[Berkshire]

13 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Yet another example of there the Left and Right have changed sides .

   Previously it was the Right wing who wanted wars in foreign land and the Left wingers were all giving the peace sign.

   These days its the complete opposite, with the Left wing wanting wars in foreign Countries and the Right wing giving peace signs 

    

  

This is just nonsense.  I don't know any "left wingers" today who want wars in foreign countries.  But if you can provide some evidence, I'm happy to be proven wrong. 

[Mac Mickmanus]

2 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

This is just nonsense.  I don't know any "left wingers" today who want wars in foreign countries.  But if you can provide some evidence, I'm happy to be proven wrong. 

Biden wants to fight the Russians or at least join in somehow , Trump wants to keep out of the conflict 

[Berkshire]

Just now, Mac Mickmanus said:

Biden wants to fight the Russians or at least join in somehow , Trump wants to keep out of the conflict 

That's just not true.  Biden wants Russia to get out of Ukraine.  And he's going to help the Ukrainians do that on their own.  Biden has never suggested that the US would send in American troops. 

Trump on the other hand has no problem with Russia invading Ukraine and wants to end the conflict by giving Putin whatever he wants.  Trump would not lift a finger to help Ukraine.  Therein lies the difference.

[onthedarkside]

This topic is not a Russia/Ukraine war thread. Any more posts on this will be removed