The health effects of marijuana

[georgegeorgia]

Now marijuana is legal in Thailand and there appears to these cannabis shops popping up ,

I would hate to see the medical future of these people indulging in this habit .

 

Sure I agree with medical use eg terminal illness ,maybe pain control etc but what effects will it have on peoples health ?

 

 

Lungs ? Szphirophrenia? Empsyma , 

 

I am staying away from smoking and drinking 

[stoner]

26 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

Sure I agree with medical use eg terminal illness ,maybe pain control etc but what effects will it have on peoples health ?

 

 

Lungs ? Szphirophrenia? Empsyma , 

edibles. tinctures. inhalers.

[save the frogs]

do a search on the forum.

 

there have been several discussions about this topic.

 

some posters have discussed their negative experiences.

 

some posters only have positive things to say about it.

 

read as many opinions as possible and then make up your own mind as to whether you need to include that in your life. 

 

[metisdead]

A post with a trolling video has been removed.

[save the frogs]

the video advocating marijuana use was removed.

 

but OP, if you had the chance to see it, you might have noticed that there was juvenile behavior taking place ... pulling down the pants of a cop ... anyway, i'll let you connect the dots and come to your own philosophical conclusions. 

 

 

[kiteman9]

I have never heard of anyone getting deathly sick or dying from smoking the herb marijuana, and I have been smoking it for over fifty years.

[Olmate]

3 minutes ago, kiteman9 said:

I have never heard of anyone getting deathly sick or dying from smoking the herb marijuana, and I have been smoking it for over fifty years.

Get your hearing checked! 

[stoner]

9 minutes ago, Olmate said:

13 minutes ago, kiteman9 said:

I have never heard of anyone getting deathly sick or dying from smoking the herb marijuana, and I have been smoking it for over fifty years.

Get your hearing checked! 

wait am i supposed to get my ears checked too ? im so confused. time for another dab. 

[nobodysfriend]

Stopped smoking ( it ) a long time ago ... Now , I have my daily tea . That keeps me mentally ( and physically ) healthy and more happy . I can enjoy life better like this . Not care about what " they " say or think ...

It is a " consciousness enlarging " thing , that helps you to realize what really is important for you ...

[stoner]

23 minutes ago, kiteman9 said:

but added a caveat that the boy may have been infected before he ingested cannabis.

:)

 

so essentially they really have no definitive conclusion. 

[Olmate]

29 minutes ago, kiteman9 said:

that children who consume high amounts of THC tend to become sedated or lethargic

Sounds ideal for starters! 

[Enoon]

 

12 hours ago, kiteman9 said:

I have never heard of anyone getting deathly sick or dying from smoking the herb marijuana, and I have been smoking it for over fifty years.

 

Mental health and competence is what is at greatest risk.

 

Any chance of getting an impartial opinion of yours?

 

Not much use asking you to give an assessment of it.......for obvious reasons.

 

 

 

 

[ignore it]

Observational studies of French males indicate the possibility of embarrassing situations if weed and wine are used to excess. It is recommended that prior to use, individuals wear  both a belt and suspenders/braces.

[Bday Prang]

1 hour ago, kiteman9 said:

The cause of myocarditis is also often unknown by doctors.

Hmmmmmm myocarditis ? I have heard that mentioned quite a lot recently, although not in relation to cannabis.  I seem to remember a certain vaccine was suspected as a cause

[Bday Prang]

35 minutes ago, Enoon said:

 

 

Mental health and competence is what is at greatest risk.

 

Any chance of getting an impartial opinion of yours?

 

Not much use asking you to give an assessment of it.......for obvious reasons.

 

 

 

not much chance of an unbiased assessment from you or anybody else either thanks to "reefer madness" etc 

[Bday Prang]

Posted 53 minutes ago

  1 hour ago, kiteman9 said:

that children who consume high amounts of THC tend to become sedated or lethargic

1 hour ago, Olmate said:

Sounds ideal for starters! 

What part of "not for sale to children"  is so difficult to understand ? 

 

 

[Olmate]

9 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

Posted 53 minutes ago

  1 hour ago, kiteman9 said:

that children who consume high amounts of THC tend to become sedated or lethargic

What part of "not for sale to children"  is so difficult to understand ? 

  

  Tell that to the OP. aka."high as a kiteman" ????

[Yellowtail]

13 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

not much chance of an unbiased assessment from you or anybody else either thanks to "reefer madness" etc 

Reefer madness was produced in '36 and was largely a joke by the time most anyone still alive might seen it. 

 

Is it your opinion that people that only use it are able to provide an "unbiased assessment"? That's hilarious.

 

I used for about fifteen years and have been clean over thirty so I think I have a pretty good idea what it's about. 

 

 

 

 

[Zenwind]

Here is a link to my original 15 March post here on Asean Now (in the subforum “Health and Medicine”).  It is called “Health Benefits of high-THC Cannabis” and it documents my recent positive experiences with Micro-Dosing:

 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1289233-health-benefits-of-high-thc-cannabis/

 

I am 73 years old, and, quite simply, marijuana’s very significant health benefits to me are to get me to Exercise.  Please read that original post to get the full story. 

 

Here, I want to add some info to that OP.  I only smoke cannabis two or three times a week, usually when I realize that I must break out of my old-guy laziness, get up and move more.  I have refined my Micro-Dose intake to only two “tokes”, and they are quite modest inhalations – all I need. 

 

My walking distances have increased (from 100 meters with a cane a year ago), and twice a week I usually do a seven-kilometer loop in around 90 minutes, with shorter walks on days in between.  If I feel especially spunky, I will climb the 35-step pedestrian flyovers crossing the avenue and any even higher stairs to elevated train stations, up to 12 of these stairways in my seven K marching route.  Nice workout. 

 

The past month has seen 100-degree F heat on my midday marches, so I recommend diligent hydration.  I always have a water bottle in hand and wear a quality mask because of the dirty air.  

You may be skeptical of my experience, but my original post (linked above) is worth examination. 

 

-Zenwind.

[Bday Prang]

57 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Reefer madness was produced in '36 and was largely a joke by the time most anyone still alive might seen it. 

 

Is it your opinion that people that only use it are able to provide an "unbiased assessment"? That's hilarious.

 

I used for about fifteen years and have been clean over thirty so I think I have a pretty good idea what it's about. 

 

 

 

 

                Yes it is my opinion that those with no personal experience are absolutely unable to provide any sort of unbiased assessment.  What is their "unbiased assessment" based on other than agenda driven 3rd party "reports"   

                 Could you imagine "wine tasting" where the tasters don't actually personally taste the wine?  but give there opinions based on what others have told them ?? 

                 I have never used "Mescaline" or "Angel Dust"   I cannot possibly give an assessment of those drugs unbiased or otherwise, but  all I could do, if I was that way inclined, would be to repeat what I  have read "on the net"  hardly an unbiased assessment.  

               The "Reefer Madness" film  was never produced as a "joke" but its entire narrative is indeed laughable. The comedy effect, however, can only be appreciated by those who have actually used cannabis,   non users, by description, have no way of knowing that it was a hideous work of fiction and as such their judgement is somewhat tainted. 

                It was endorsed by the government at the time  and forms the very foundation of a vocal minority of  society's aversion to cannabis use,  My reference to "reefer madness" was not only directed at that film but at the ensuing hysteria it started, and the ridiculous anti cannabis propaganda that followed, both of which continues today 

               The fact that you consider yourself now "clean" , which is a term generally used to describe an addict recovering from addiction to heroin or other addictive substances, is to me quite hilarious and suggests to me that you never actually smoked it at all. 

                Even if you actually did smoke before, what makes you believe that others should not be allowed to do so,  and  form their own opinions . Just because it was "not for you" 30 years ago is not a valid  reason to advocate its prohibition.   I don't like cigars and I don't like the smell of cigar smoke, but I feel no need to suggest that cigars should be banned. Maybe I am just  a bit more tolerant than you 

 

[stoner]

3 hours ago, Andyfez said:

What about car accidents? You say you drive better under influence? Or smokers of a more senior age are too responsible to do such a thing?

 

Sample from Florida report:

 

Results, published in the Journal of Nursing Scholarship , show that 386 people died as a result of cannabis use; of these, 258 cases were caused by synthetic cannabis. Nearly 65 percent of these cases involved synthetic cannabis as the only drug involved.

 

Findings showed that nearly 28 percent of deaths caused by cannabis and synthetic cannabis were in those ages 45 to 54, compared to 9 percent in those ages 8 to 24. This finding suggests a change in the age demographic in the context of mortality considering the attributable health conditions such as cardiovascular heart diseases.

65 percent involved a drug not cannabis. 

 

you cannot link cannabis vs synthetic cannabis. i am pretty sure the synthetic cannabis is quite dangerous and has all kinds of non cannabis chemicals in it. 

 

i could be wrong but i bet it can be equated to street mdma vs lab made medical grade mdma. the synthetic cannabis in these cases is probably very very dirty stuff. 

 

so they are really comparing apples to oranges in a sense. 

[georgegeorgia]

1 hour ago, stoner said:

65 percent involved a drug not cannabis. 

 

you cannot link cannabis vs synthetic cannabis. i am pretty sure the synthetic cannabis is quite dangerous and has all kinds of non cannabis chemicals in it. 

 

i could be wrong but i bet it can be equated to street mdma vs lab made medical grade mdma. the synthetic cannabis in these cases is probably very very dirty stuff. 

 

so they are really comparing apples to oranges in a sense. 

Not being a weed smoker I had no idea there was a difference.

So this stuff they sell in shops in Pattaya Phuket etc is what they call "synthetic" it's not real natural marijuana?

[Yellowtail]

4 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

                Yes it is my opinion that those with no personal experience are absolutely unable to provide any sort of unbiased assessment.  What is their "unbiased assessment" based on other than agenda driven 3rd party "reports"   

That not what I asked though, is it? 

4 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

                 Could you imagine "wine tasting" where the tasters don't actually personally taste the wine?  but give there opinions based on what others have told them ?? 

Are you high now? 

4 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

                 I have never used "Mescaline" or "Angel Dust"   I cannot possibly give an assessment of those drugs unbiased or otherwise, but  all I could do, if I was that way inclined, would be to repeat what I  have read "on the net"  hardly an unbiased assessment.  

I have used both. 

4 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

               The "Reefer Madness" film  was never produced as a "joke" but its entire narrative is indeed laughable. The comedy effect, however, can only be appreciated by those who have actually used cannabis,   non users, by description, have no way of knowing that it was a hideous work of fiction and as such their judgement is somewhat tainted. 

I never said it was produced as a joke, please try to follow along. 

4 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

                It was endorsed by the government at the time  and forms the very foundation of a vocal minority of  society's aversion to cannabis use,  My reference to "reefer madness" was not only directed at that film but at the ensuing hysteria it started, and the ridiculous anti cannabis propaganda that followed, both of which continues today 

Much of the anti-cannabis "propaganda" proved true. 

4 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

               The fact that you consider yourself now "clean" , which is a term generally used to describe an addict recovering from addiction to heroin or other addictive substances, is to me quite hilarious and suggests to me that you never actually smoked it at all. 

Actually, like most every heroin addict, I started with weed. 

 

I would not care much about it if we did not live in a welfare state where the productive have to support the unproductive.  

 

Carry on. 

 

 

[Hugh Jarse]

Apart from the respiratory ailments, chronic paranoia, psychosis and skitsophrenia are apparant in habitual users ..

[stoner]

3 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

Not being a weed smoker I had no idea there was a difference.

So this stuff they sell in shops in Pattaya Phuket etc is what they call "synthetic" it's not real natural marijuana?

its not real. please stay away from that. 

[metisdead]

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[Bday Prang]

9 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Is it your opinion that people that only use it are able to provide an "unbiased assessment"? That's hilarious.

As you can see above that is exactly what you asked and my reply was,,,,

 

8 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

  Yes it is my opinion that those with no personal experience are absolutely unable to provide any sort of unbiased assessment. 

 

4 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

That not what I asked though, is it? 

So what do you think you asked ?

 

              Non of the anti-cannabis propaganda has proved true at all. 

              Men don't die for it and women don't cry for it, I won't mention the disgusting  racist implications that were also used during the initial calls for prohibition, but needless to say, any  right minded person is fully aware that it was a work of fiction, as indeed  is all the rest

              What has happened is the original reefer madness propaganda has been used to form the basis for this particular battle in  "the war on drugs"  Statistics and research has all been manipulated to promote the resulting narrative

              Looks to me like you are "victim" looking for something to blame for your addiction to Heroin, the blame lies solely with you, trying to blame it on weed is nothing short of fantasy.

              Millions of people enjoy cannabis and never move on to anything "stronger" The "gateway effect" has been proved to be a myth, have you never wondered why it was only ever applied to cannabis and not to alcohol ? 

               On your own admission you have used mescaline and Angel dust, and more than likely several other substances, you just need to accept the fact that you are predisposed to indulge in psychoactive drugs , in other words  "A druggie"  nothing wrong with that, and no need to blame it on anything, Just accept its part of your DNA . No point in trying to blame cannabis, and after all it wasn't the 1st thing that ever passed your lips was it, 

 

 

4 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

I would not care much about it if we did not live in a welfare state where the productive have to support the unproductive.  

               not much support for the unproductive here in Thailand  I have never heard it called a welfare state before      are you sure you are "clean"

[BritManToo]

7 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

Looks to me like you are "victim" looking for something to blame for your addiction to Heroin

To be fair, AA members are exactly the same about alcohol.

And I've noticed the most rabid anti-tobacco crowd are often reformed smokers.

 

Back to the OP, health effects ........

Smoking 0.5gm every night for the past 2 years has left me pain free in my arthritic finger joints, and even reduced the swelling to nothing. Amazing really!

[Bday Prang]

4 hours ago, Hugh Jarse said:

Apart from the respiratory ailments, chronic paranoia, psychosis and skitsophrenia are apparant in habitual users ..

More rubbish, how many habitual users do you know ? 

                  I know plenty, and have never encountered any suffering from the above. Although I will concede that heavy smoking could lead to respiratory problems 

                  With regards to the other ailments you and others never fail to mention   How about a bit of lateral thinking for a change ? Is it a possibility that certain people in general  are susceptible to those conditions ? Well of course it is , as not  every inmate of the asylum is an ex cannabis user.  Most people who smoke don't end up there, The  paranoid, the psychotic  and the  schizophrenics could quite possibly  and in all probability have been heading that way regardless of whether they used cannabis or not  Very difficult, if not impossible, to prove one way or the other regardless of what you have read "on the internet" or on mainstream media

[Yellowtail]

20 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

As you can see above that is exactly what you asked and my reply was,,,,

 

 

So what do you think you asked ?

 

              Non of the anti-cannabis propaganda has proved true at all. 

              Men don't die for it and women don't cry for it, I won't mention the disgusting  racist implications that were also used during the initial calls for prohibition, but needless to say, any  right minded person is fully aware that it was a work of fiction, as indeed  is all the rest

              What has happened is the original reefer madness propaganda has been used to form the basis for this particular battle in  "the war on drugs"  Statistics and research has all been manipulated to promote the resulting narrative

              Looks to me like you are "victim" looking for something to blame for your addiction to Heroin, the blame lies solely with you, trying to blame it on weed is nothing short of fantasy.

              Millions of people enjoy cannabis and never move on to anything "stronger" The "gateway effect" has been proved to be a myth, have you never wondered why it was only ever applied to cannabis and not to alcohol ? 

               On your own admission you have used mescaline and Angel dust, and more than likely several other substances, you just need to accept the fact that you are predisposed to indulge in psychoactive drugs , in other words  "A druggie"  nothing wrong with that, and no need to blame it on anything, Just accept its part of your DNA . No point in trying to blame cannabis, and after all it wasn't the 1st thing that ever passed your lips was it, 

 

 

               not much support for the unproductive here in Thailand  I have never heard it called a welfare state before      are you sure you are "clean"

Not surprisingly, reading comprehension is not your strong suit, huh?