connda Posted June 12, 2023 Posted June 12, 2023 It would be just as easy to pay some wing-nuts to march around with Nazi flags emblazoned with "Biden For President." This is electioneering of the most sordid kind. But it is America and like it or not, Nazi flags are protected expression under the First Amendment (unlike say, Germany). But utilizing them to smear a political rival is pretty low regardless to whether the tactic is being used by the Left or the Right.
Hanaguma Posted June 12, 2023 Posted June 12, 2023 11 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Yeah, but I think DeSantis is smart enough to rebuff their support if asked. Trump would say -- some of them are good people. Nope. Never happened. DeSantis also recently signed a law banning distributing hateful flyers and material on private property, and also projecting images onto property like the one shown above. Some fascist....
connda Posted June 12, 2023 Posted June 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Berkshire said: When the two frontrunners for the Republican presidential primary have total support from Nazis and white supremacists, one does have to wonder what the GOP stands for anymore. Mission accomplished. The point of this exercise was to pair Nazism and White Supremacy with a GOP candidate so that the public will embrace the view that you just expounded. See - it worked.
Jingthing Posted June 12, 2023 Posted June 12, 2023 Just now, Hanaguma said: Nope. Never happened. DeSantis also recently signed a law banning distributing hateful flyers and material on private property, and also projecting images onto property like the one shown above. Some fascist.... Weird reply. I said he's smart enough to rebuff Nazi support, and that's your reply?!? He is a fascist. You don't need to be a Nazi to be a fascist.
1FinickyOne Posted June 12, 2023 Posted June 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: More captured here: Doesn't look like there are too many of them...
Berkshire Posted June 12, 2023 Posted June 12, 2023 36 minutes ago, bignok said: The Southern Democrats founded the KKK. Please let's deal in facts for once. Bringing up ancient history? Maybe we should discuss whether the Roman Empire supported LGBTQ rights. 2
Popular Post Walker88 Posted June 12, 2023 Popular Post Posted June 12, 2023 32 minutes ago, bignok said: The Southern Democrats founded the KKK. Please let's deal in facts for once. Wow, they must be 175 years old now ! Nice they can still get out to vote. As far as I know, however, David Duke is not a Democrat. Neither is Richard Spencer. Bull Connor wasn't a Dem. The producers and readers of Stormfront (A neo-Nazi publication/website) are not Dems either. It was JFK who began to put together the Civil Rights Act, and LBJ who got is passed in 1964. Dems. 2 2
Lemsta69 Posted June 12, 2023 Posted June 12, 2023 4 hours ago, ThailandRyan said: There are some truly disturbed people in this world. It looks like fascism is still alive and the belief in superior races clouds peoples minds. Truly reprehensible. A perfect description of a certain major religion.
FarAway Posted June 12, 2023 Posted June 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Jingthing said: There are still remnants of the old GOP but it is now totally dominated by the Maga fascists. There is nothing to wonder about. The GOP has become a pro fascist party. Will it ever backtrack from that and how long will it take? Impossible to say. I don't think that party deserves to even survive. It should go the way of the Know Nothing Party. You realize there are people of every ethnicity in the GOP? They are definitely not fascist. 2
Popular Post ozimoron Posted June 12, 2023 Popular Post Posted June 12, 2023 2 hours ago, EVENKEEL said: The clip shows 7 idiots in Florida, I'd guess every state has idiots of every flavor. Hardly a reason to move. My home base is Ca. just because it's governed by idiots I still like Ca. You don't have to be racist to vote Republican but most racists do. 1 2 1
Jingthing Posted June 12, 2023 Posted June 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, Lemsta69 said: A perfect description of a certain major religion. Which religion?
ozimoron Posted June 12, 2023 Posted June 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, FarAway said: You realize there are people of every ethnicity in the GOP? They are definitely not fascist. They keep claiming that while almost never condemning racists and nazis. 2
Jingthing Posted June 12, 2023 Posted June 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, FarAway said: You realize there are people of every ethnicity in the GOP? They are definitely not fascist. But it's overwhelmingly a white nationalist party now. Plus straight Christian.
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ozimoron Posted June 12, 2023 Posted June 12, 2023 Both Trump and DeSantis have said they would pardon the proud boys and oath keepers if they were elected, as have most other GOP candidates. About 90% of Republican voters support one of those candidates. There's no way they can claim to be not racist. 2
LosLobo Posted June 12, 2023 Posted June 12, 2023 56 minutes ago, Jingthing said: But it's overwhelmingly a white nationalist party now. Plus straight Christian. Compared to the number of female Democrats in Congress, women are also under represented. So therefore the GOP are a mainly, straight white male Christian Nationalist party. If some how Trump wins and the Democrats lose the Senate and nothing changes in SCOTUS anything would then be possible even the rise a tyrannical Fourth Reich. Have we not learned anything from history and the founders. 'In the words of James Madison: “The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, self-appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny.” Separation of Powers | We the People | CONSTITUTION USA with Peter Sagal | PBS 1
Popular Post bendejo Posted June 12, 2023 Popular Post Posted June 12, 2023 US politicians competing for the nazi vote. Does not sound good. 3
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted June 12, 2023 Popular Post Posted June 12, 2023 4 hours ago, EVENKEEL said: Hopefullt you understand that catagorizing the GOP because of these 7 idiots is histeria. These are not idiots, they are Nazis and they are coalescing around DeSantis and the Republican Party. Let’s stop pretending otherwise. 5
ozimoron Posted June 12, 2023 Posted June 12, 2023 12 minutes ago, bendejo said: US politicians competing for the nazi vote. Does not sound good. It's never good to cajole nazis but I think they are mistaken if they think they represent the "silent majority". They know that but they have no other base.
pedro01 Posted June 12, 2023 Posted June 12, 2023 19 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: So you think Nazis are not idiots? Interesting. And all 7 of them are coalescing around the Republicans. Yep, that is gonna sway the election for sure. The left cannot process the fact that just because someone endorses you, doesn't mean you in any way endorse them back. That's what's going on here. 1
Pink Mist Posted June 12, 2023 Posted June 12, 2023 A troll post and replies attempting to move the OP off topic have been removed.
Popular Post ozimoron Posted June 12, 2023 Popular Post Posted June 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, pedro01 said: The left cannot process the fact that just because someone endorses you, doesn't mean you in any way endorse them back. That's what's going on here. "there's good people on both sides" is about as clear an endorsement as you can get. 2 2 2
Jingthing Posted June 12, 2023 Posted June 12, 2023 Just now, ozimoron said: "there's good people on both sides" is about as clear an endorsement as you can get. Yes, also to the terrorist Proud Boys -- Stand Back and Stand By 1
Bkk Brian Posted June 12, 2023 Posted June 12, 2023 11 minutes ago, ozimoron said: "there's good people on both sides" is about as clear an endorsement as you can get. Since last year there's still been nothing from DeSantis Why Won’t Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis Denounce His Neo-Nazi Supporters? Florida politicians and local Jewish leaders are demanding Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis condemn a group of neo-Nazis who congregated outside a Tampa convention center over the weekend, passing out anti-Semitic propaganda and displaying swastikas alongside flags that read “DeSantis Country.” “We may disagree on policies, but if we as leaders don’t denounce neo-Nazis and white supremacists in our state, in our country, what are we doing here?” said Florida Agriculture Commissioner and gubernatorial candidate Nikki Fried, who is Jewish, during a press conference, “I am asking you, Ron DeSantis, to denounce the Nazis that were here, here to celebrate you speech inside this convention center, they were holding your pictures yesterday.” In addition to DeSantis, other high-profile Student Action Summit attendees — including former President Donald Trump, Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.), Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.), and Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) — have also stayed silent on the matter. https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/ron-desantis-neo-nazi-turning-point-usa-florida-conference-1388015/
ozimoron Posted June 12, 2023 Posted June 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said: Since last year there's still been nothing from DeSantis Why Won’t Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis Denounce His Neo-Nazi Supporters? Florida politicians and local Jewish leaders are demanding Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis condemn a group of neo-Nazis who congregated outside a Tampa convention center over the weekend, passing out anti-Semitic propaganda and displaying swastikas alongside flags that read “DeSantis Country.” “We may disagree on policies, but if we as leaders don’t denounce neo-Nazis and white supremacists in our state, in our country, what are we doing here?” said Florida Agriculture Commissioner and gubernatorial candidate Nikki Fried, who is Jewish, during a press conference, “I am asking you, Ron DeSantis, to denounce the Nazis that were here, here to celebrate you speech inside this convention center, they were holding your pictures yesterday.” In addition to DeSantis, other high-profile Student Action Summit attendees — including former President Donald Trump, Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.), Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.), and Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) — have also stayed silent on the matter. https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/ron-desantis-neo-nazi-turning-point-usa-florida-conference-1388015/ They are cowards, unwilling to declare their hand either way. When things get sticky for them they turn into ostriches. 1
Popular Post Berkshire Posted June 12, 2023 Popular Post Posted June 12, 2023 21 minutes ago, pedro01 said: The left cannot process the fact that just because someone endorses you, doesn't mean you in any way endorse them back. That's what's going on here. Perhaps people like you should ponder why the Nazis and white supremacists would support DeSantis in the first place? I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with his economic policies. But if DeSantis were to simply disavow these groups, then he would clearly demonstrate that he "doesn't endorse them back." Has he? 3 1 2
Pink Mist Posted June 12, 2023 Posted June 12, 2023 Off topic troll posts removed once again posts are starting to drift off-topic. Please stay on topic and do not hijack the OP.
Hanaguma Posted June 12, 2023 Posted June 12, 2023 2 hours ago, ozimoron said: "there's good people on both sides" is about as clear an endorsement as you can get. Dont forget the second part of the quote, the part that says, "and I'm not talking about the neo nazis and white supremacists, they should be condemned totally". It seems like a lot of people want to forget it though, for some reason...
ozimoron Posted June 12, 2023 Posted June 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: Dont forget the second part of the quote, the part that says, "and I'm not talking about the neo nazis and white supremacists, they should be condemned totally". It seems like a lot of people want to forget it though, for some reason... Because they don't believe him. He has form, this isn't his first rodeo. 1 1
ozimoron Posted June 12, 2023 Posted June 12, 2023 Indicted former President Donald Trump’s legal team is planning to ask District Judge Aileen Cannon to dismiss key evidence that ties him to obstruction of the FBI’s investigation into classified documents stored at Mar-a-Lago, a report said Sunday. The basis of the dismissal, his lawyers say, is that notes kept by Trump’s attorney Evan Corcoran - bombshell evidence in which Trump discusses lying to investigators about the document's existence and even suggests destroying them – are covered by attorney-client privilege and should not have been turned over. https://www.rawstory.com/aileen-cannon-2661189723/
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