Deep Rooted Shade Tree

[senoremac]

I've got an area of approximately 2 meters x 2 meters to plant a shade tree. Any advice on a deep rooting tree that will offer lots of shade other than a mango tree? 

[ozimoron]

The best would undoubtedly be a Tamarind tree. Extremely storm resistant and very shady, tall growing tree. However, it is a very large tree.

[Reginald Prewster]

2x2 meter in a bigger garden or 2x2 meter just between lets say house and wall? 

Does the soil drain well or is it prone to water logging?

 

[Dante99]

  On 6/12/2023 at 5:32 AM, senoremac said:

I've got an area of approximately 2 meters x 2 meters to plant a shade tree

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That is a very very small area for almost any tree.  What are you trying to shade?  ground, side of a house? ...

[senoremac]

  On 6/12/2023 at 6:09 AM, Reginald Prewster said:

2x2 meter in a bigger garden or 2x2 meter just between lets say house and wall? 

Does the soil drain well or is it prone to water logging?

 

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In the back corner of the property next to 2 walls with good drainage. 

[senoremac]

  On 6/12/2023 at 12:11 PM, Dante99 said:

That is a very very small area for almost any tree.  What are you trying to shade?  ground, side of a house? ...

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I would like it to block the neighbors window from looking down into a sitting area

[Bill97]

  On 6/13/2023 at 6:30 AM, senoremac said:

I would like it to block the neighbors window from looking down into a sitting area

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Bamboo.  There are a couple of other tall skinny ones to consider.

[Hummin]

  On 6/12/2023 at 5:36 AM, ozimoron said:

The best would undoubtedly be a Tamarind tree. Extremely storm resistant and very shady, tall growing tree. However, it is a very large tree.

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You can trim a Tamarind tree.

[Hummin]

  On 6/13/2023 at 9:03 AM, Bill97 said:

Bamboo.  There are a couple of other tall skinny ones to consider.

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Too noisy in the wind

[CharlieH]

Grammar police post removed.

[zzaa09]

  On 6/13/2023 at 9:11 AM, Hummin said:

You can trim a Tamarind tree.

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Sure. Once established, they're quite hearty and resistant to meddling - as numerous varieties of hardwoods are here. 

Don't over prune.....thinking one is being clever.

 

Allow the trees to be.

[Hummin]

  On 6/13/2023 at 10:46 AM, zzaa09 said:

Sure. Once established, they're quite hearty and resistant to meddling - as numerous varieties of hardwoods are here. 

Don't over prune.....thinking one is being clever.

 

Allow the trees to be.

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He got limited space for a tree, maybe look in to a wall of a few  mulberry trees, that also is easy to prune or tie to becoma a half dome. 

 

Google muberry trees Thailand and look a the pictures how they have pruned them.  

[NotEinstein]

A Tamarind tree, left alone, will grow to a great height and width - much greater than 2x2.

 

What ever you plant, you are going to have to trim it - better to get some of these.

 

These are 3 years old and have been trimmed to keep to this height. There is a tamarind tree to the left.

You will see these trees used as a fence on many Thai properties.

The wife says they are called Ton Sai Kaolie

[Dante99]

  On 6/14/2023 at 3:32 AM, NotEinstein said:

A Tamarind tree, left alone, will grow to a great height and width - much greater than 2x2.

 

What ever you plant, you are going to have to trim it - better to get some of these.

 

These are 3 years old and have been trimmed to keep to this height. There is a tamarind tree to the left.

You will see these trees used as a fence on many Thai properties.

The wife says they are called Ton Sai Kaolie

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Good one.  That will work better than a large tree.  

[Isan Farang]

  On 6/14/2023 at 5:13 AM, Dante99 said:

Good one.  That will work better than a large tree.  

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I have the same hedge planted in Chiang Rai, covering almost 1 Rai, picture of when planted in 2019, and picture on 2022

[sirineou]

  On 6/12/2023 at 5:36 AM, ozimoron said:

The best would undoubtedly be a Tamarind tree. Extremely storm resistant and very shady, tall growing tree. However, it is a very large tree.

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You are right, But a Tamarind tree is very messy. I had one near my wife's sisters house which is the property next to us, and we had to cut it down. It made a mess with the leaves it dropped , and the seeds. and It was occupied by farmer ants, Amy time you walk under it, the ants freedived on you and AUCH!!

[dingdongrb]

  On 6/14/2023 at 5:50 AM, sirineou said:

You are right, But a Tamarind tree is very messy. 

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I was wanting to say the same thing about a Mulberry tree. Had a couple in my parents' backyard while growing up as a teen. Smashed and yucky berries all over the lawn.

[Hummin]

  On 6/14/2023 at 8:24 AM, dingdongrb said:

I was wanting to say the same thing about a Mulberry tree. Had a couple in my parents' backyard while growing up as a teen. Smashed and yucky berries all over the lawn.

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If you want a nice garden and also maybe some fruit trees, it need to be maintained. 

 

If a fruit tree makes a mess, then you are a lazy gardener, and maybe also do not collect the gifts given by tree ????

 

Ants is a problem with a fruit tree, but limited to the source of fruit which is not picked in time. 

 

Maintenance is a key word, and that means pruning and collecting.

 

 

[dingdongrb]

  On 6/14/2023 at 10:23 AM, Hummin said:

If you want a nice garden and also maybe some fruit trees, it need to be maintained. 

 

If a fruit tree makes a mess, then you are a lazy gardener, and maybe also do not collect the gifts given by tree ????

 

Ants is a problem with a fruit tree, but limited to the source of fruit which is not picked in time. 

 

Maintenance is a key word, and that means pruning and collecting.

 

 

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If I want a fruit tree it would be something like peaches, apples, pears, or other larger fruits, not some small messy fruit like a mulberry.

 

Berries for me shouldn't be hanging from a tree dropping everywhere. Give me strawberries, blueberries, raspberries, or blackberries. Even cherry trees as well as those beautiful flowering crabapple trees are messy.