SunnyinBangrak Posted June 27, 2023 Posted June 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, candide said: How Did Jared Kushner Get $2 Billion From the Saudis? Hint: It’s not because of his track record as an investor. https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-04-11/how-did-jared-kushner-get-2-billion-from-the-saudis Not saying it's corrupt but it seems to me it's the right price at WH level. Not a few miserable millions. Of course, when a government official receives billions of $ from a foreign country, the House committee looks elsewhere. Better look at a private citizen with no record of any transaction with the government (Hunter). "House Oversight investigating $2B Saudi investment in Jared Kushner's firm Kushner formed an investment firm right after Trump left office, and six months later, the sovereign wealth fund of Saudi Arabia, controlled by the crown prince, invested $2 billion." https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/house-oversight-investigating-2b-saudi-investment-jared-kushners-firm-rcna31805 there you go. it was an investment firm. nothing to do with the biden payments his fans moved heaven and earth to deny ever happened, and are now painted into a corner making ridiculous and off topic gambits to distract. like I said, time to get ahead of this now. 1
placeholder Posted June 27, 2023 Posted June 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, Isaan sailor said: At least I don’t get news from late night comedy shows. Really? So why are so many of your comments so silly? 1
Isaan sailor Posted June 27, 2023 Posted June 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, placeholder said: When did "the left" deny that Hunter Biden received payments? You keep on trying that one on even though when challenged on it you simply evaporate. As for comparing Hunter Biden's payment's to Jared Kushner's, like Kushner's, nothing illegal has been established about. Unlike Kushner, Hunter Biden was never a government official. What's even worse is that Kushner's special purview was the middle east where he developed close relationships with the rulers there. And despite the fact that his experience in investing has been disastrous, so disastrous that the Qatari government helped bail his familoy out with a sweetheart deal that made no financial sense, and despite the fact that advisors to the Saudi investment agency opposed investing with Kusher, he was given 2 entrusted with 2 billion dollars. That's twice as much as the Saudis entrusted to Steven Mnuchin, a savvy investor with a long list of successes behind him. That 2 billion dollar may be legal, but it clearly stinks. Good thing Trump’s out of office, right? Now let’s get Biden out. 1
EVENKEEL Posted June 27, 2023 Posted June 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, candide said: How Did Jared Kushner Get $2 Billion From the Saudis? Hint: It’s not because of his track record as an investor. https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-04-11/how-did-jared-kushner-get-2-billion-from-the-saudis Not saying it's corrupt but it seems to me it's the right price at WH level. Not a few miserable millions. Of course, when a government official receives billions of $ from a foreign country, the House committee looks elsewhere. Better look at a private citizen with no record of any transaction with the government (Hunter). So, now the defense for the smartest man JB knows is ah it's only a few million. 1 1
Neeranam Posted June 27, 2023 Posted June 27, 2023 16 minutes ago, ozimoron said: And the other half watch channels that tell the truth? I sincerely hope one of those channels isn't Fox? Fox was one, CNN the other. Both totally biased. 1
placeholder Posted June 27, 2023 Posted June 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, Isaan sailor said: Good thing Trump’s out of office, right? Now let’s get Biden out. And replace him with who? You seem to believe that issues are secondary to persons.
Isaan sailor Posted June 27, 2023 Posted June 27, 2023 9 minutes ago, placeholder said: Really? So why are so many of your comments so silly? Open borders is silly? High inflation silly? How about inflation—silly to you? And rising crime in Americas biggest cities? 1
JonnyF Posted June 27, 2023 Posted June 27, 2023 1 hour ago, placeholder said: I think you imagine you are a qualified gerontologist. I don't need to be an expert on amputation to know that Oscar Pistorius only has one leg. 1 1
Popular Post placeholder Posted June 27, 2023 Popular Post Posted June 27, 2023 13 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said: "House Oversight investigating $2B Saudi investment in Jared Kushner's firm Kushner formed an investment firm right after Trump left office, and six months later, the sovereign wealth fund of Saudi Arabia, controlled by the crown prince, invested $2 billion." https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/house-oversight-investigating-2b-saudi-investment-jared-kushners-firm-rcna31805 there you go. it was an investment firm. nothing to do with the biden payments his fans moved heaven and earth to deny ever happened, and are now painted into a corner making ridiculous and off topic gambits to distract. like I said, time to get ahead of this now. It was an investment firm headed by an incompetent investor who was a government official, and as an official advocated for the Saudi government. The Saudis invested 2 billion with him despite advisors concluding that the deal should be nixed. Now it's "fans who moved heaven and earth to deny it happened" Can you tell us exactly what constititutes moving heaven and earth? More importantly, where in the media was it denied that Hunter Biden received payments? What's more, where is the evidence that these payments were criminal? Are his fans moving heaven and earth to hide the evidence? You've got nothing. 4
Popular Post placeholder Posted June 27, 2023 Popular Post Posted June 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, JonnyF said: I don't need to be an expert on amputation to know that Oscar Pistorius only has one leg. Actually, Oscar Pistorius had both is legs amputated. You can't even get that right. 2 2
Isaan sailor Posted June 27, 2023 Posted June 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, placeholder said: And replace him with who? You seem to believe that issues are secondary to persons. Good question. Many interesting candidates coming up—-RFK Jr, Desantis, and some guy with an Indian surname I can’t recall. We need better candidates on both sides to step up ASAP. 1
placeholder Posted June 27, 2023 Posted June 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Isaan sailor said: Good question. Many interesting candidates coming up—-RFK Jr, Desantis, and some guy with an Indian surname I can’t recall. We need better candidates on both sides to step up ASAP. Still focused on the person and not the issues. What are stances of RFK or Desantis that you think make them worth voting for? 1
Popular Post Neeranam Posted June 27, 2023 Popular Post Posted June 27, 2023 21 minutes ago, ozimoron said: How should they close the border? Build a wall. 1 1 1
Popular Post ozimoron Posted June 27, 2023 Popular Post Posted June 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Build a wall. I thought your side was against driving up the national debt? I'm confused, unless the US should bill Mexico again. There's a cheaper way to stop the migrants though, start indicting company owners who employ them. Why not do that? 3
candide Posted June 27, 2023 Posted June 27, 2023 1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said: sorry can you explain how Kushner's legal business( isnt he a fund manager or banker?) where he openly and legally took Saudi investors money - investors who expected to turn a legal PROFIT ,is relevant to the biden payments which we were guaranteed here never happened at all, and now the left can no longer deny they happened are unable to account for them other than to try falsely and disingenuously equate them with Jared Kushner's(not the topic of this thread) legitimate business? Probably time to get ahead of this story at this stage if this is the best argument you have. He was a government official dealing with SA. I'm not saying it's necessarily corrupt but there's a clear conflict of interest, and conflicts of interest should be investigated by House committees. As to Hunter, as far as I know, his business is also legitimate. 2
candide Posted June 27, 2023 Posted June 27, 2023 51 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: So, now the defense for the smartest man JB knows is ah it's only a few million. No the defense is "you've still got nothing", and on top of it, it's ridiculous! 1
Isaan sailor Posted June 27, 2023 Posted June 27, 2023 23 minutes ago, ozimoron said: How should they close the border? Silly question. Finish the wall. Stop offering them free phones, free lodging, free medical care free flights to wherever they wish. Stop offering catch and release, No more asylum for financial reasons. Let CBP workers patrol the border, instead of processing more immigrants. 1 1
candide Posted June 27, 2023 Posted June 27, 2023 1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said: "House Oversight investigating $2B Saudi investment in Jared Kushner's firm Kushner formed an investment firm right after Trump left office, and six months later, the sovereign wealth fund of Saudi Arabia, controlled by the crown prince, invested $2 billion." https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/house-oversight-investigating-2b-saudi-investment-jared-kushners-firm-rcna31805 there you go. it was an investment firm. nothing to do with the biden payments his fans moved heaven and earth to deny ever happened, and are now painted into a corner making ridiculous and off topic gambits to distract. like I said, time to get ahead of this now. And the GOP buried the investigation. 1 1
stevenl Posted June 27, 2023 Posted June 27, 2023 1 hour ago, placeholder said: What people outside the United States would those be? What information are they getting that Americans aren't? I'm not expecting you to supply any confirmable facts. I am expecting you to check the post you quoted and correct your post.
Popular Post placeholder Posted June 27, 2023 Popular Post Posted June 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, proton said: Starting from running away from Afghanistan? ???? inflation, gas prices, open southern border, making mockery of the Presidency and embarrassing the country. Actually, it was the Trump administration that negotiated abandoning Afghanistan. Biden actually get a few months extension on the deal. Most Western economies suffered from inflation. Actually the US is doing a lot better than most of them. Inflation is down sharply. And unemployment is very very low. As for the rest, thanks for the partisan nonsense. 3
placeholder Posted June 27, 2023 Posted June 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, stevenl said: I am expecting you to check the post you quoted and correct your post. You could just have told me I got it wrong. Which I did. That you were actually criticizing the same comment that I was.
Isaan sailor Posted June 27, 2023 Posted June 27, 2023 30 minutes ago, placeholder said: But how important is it as an issue to most Americans? As important as this one? Abortion Remains a Potent Issue for Pro-Choice Voters https://news.gallup.com/poll/507527/abortion-remains-potent-issue-pro-choice-voters.aspx#:~:text=In 2023%2C 28% of voters,important factors to their vote. It’s not one or the other. You can have pro-choice—and closed borders. A candidate will emerge that espouses both. Nice try. 1
placeholder Posted June 27, 2023 Posted June 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, Isaan sailor said: It’s not one or the other. You can have pro-choice—and closed borders. A candidate will emerge that espouses both. Nice try. Really? Would that be Desantis, whom you mentioned as "interesting"? As for RFK jr. he may fulfill that requirement, but given his anti vaccine stance and his enthusiastic support for the right view of the 2nd Amendment, what chance has he got? Really, what Republican is there who could fulfill that requirement? And how could a democrat gain the nomination taking a harsh stance on immigration? Tell me who this potential condidate is? Or is this person going to appear by magic? You've got nothing. 1
proton Posted June 27, 2023 Posted June 27, 2023 49 minutes ago, placeholder said: Actually, it was the Trump administration that negotiated abandoning Afghanistan. Biden actually get a few months extension on the deal. Most Western economies suffered from inflation. Actually the US is doing a lot better than most of them. Inflation is down sharply. And unemployment is very very low. As for the rest, thanks for the partisan nonsense. He negotiated it quite rightly as they has no business invading the place, Biden totally screwed up the departure leaving equipment and people behind, Saigon 2, disgraceful. 1 1 1
Isaan sailor Posted June 27, 2023 Posted June 27, 2023 36 minutes ago, placeholder said: Really? Would that be Desantis, whom you mentioned as "interesting"? As for RFK jr. he may fulfill that requirement, but given his anti vaccine stance and his enthusiastic support for the right view of the 2nd Amendment, what chance has he got? Really, what Republican is there who could fulfill that requirement? And how could a democrat gain the nomination taking a harsh stance on immigration? Tell me who this potential condidate is? Or is this person going to appear by magic? You've got nothing. You’ve nothing in Joe Biden. Good luck. 1
placeholder Posted June 27, 2023 Posted June 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, Isaan sailor said: You’ve nothing in Joe Biden. Good luck. And you can produce no one who meets your criteria of supporting abortion rights and strict controls on the border. Anyway, as someone else pointed out, this border wall is a distractions. If the Republicans were really serious about stopping unauthorized immigrants they would support a law that would punish employers who hire undocumented immigrants with sentences that include prison. 2
metisdead Posted June 27, 2023 Posted June 27, 2023 A post using bold font has been removed: 5. Do not post text with all capital letters or with over-sized fonts, all bold font, non-standard fonts, colored fonts or unusually large emojis. Do not use emojis or any other form of graphics in the title of your poll or topic.
Popular Post SunnyinBangrak Posted June 27, 2023 Popular Post Posted June 27, 2023 9 hours ago, placeholder said: It was an investment firm headed by an incompetent investor who was a government official, and as an official advocated for the Saudi government. The Saudis invested 2 billion with him despite advisors concluding that the deal should be nixed. Now it's "fans who moved heaven and earth to deny it happened" Can you tell us exactly what constititutes moving heaven and earth? More importantly, where in the media was it denied that Hunter Biden received payments? What's more, where is the evidence that these payments were criminal? Are his fans moving heaven and earth to hide the evidence? You've got nothing. How can you possibly deny the set in stone narrative (that was false) and that ran for years. It was forbidden online to state the facts that the bidens were being paid millions from overseas because the left claimed it was all LIES. Remember? ""Nothing was unethical,” Joe Biden said of Hunter Biden’s role on the board of the Ukrainian energy company Burisma. “My son has no made money from China. The only guy who has made money from China was this guy," he said, directing his comments at Trump. " https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/10/22/presidential-debate-biden-trump-clash-hunter-biden-emails/3717412001/ "White House communications director Kate Bedingfield on Thursday insisted that President Biden didn’t lie at a 2020 presidential debate when he claimed that his son Hunter Biden didn’t make money in China or engage in unethical overseas business deals. Bedingfield stood by the claims even after they were demonstrated to be untrue as major US newspapers increasingly focus on the first son’s dealings amid reports he may soon face criminal charges — with the Washington Post and New York Times belatedly confirming the authenticity of Hunter Biden emails first reported by The Post in October 2020 ahead of the final presidential debate." https://nypost.com/2022/03/31/wh-claims-biden-didnt-lie-about-hunter-at-debate-despite-reporting/ This false narrative ran until Comer's committee showed the bank records for transactions that the left assured us never happened. The Washington Post finally tried getting ahead of the story they spent years denying a few months ago. "Yet we’re still left with a motley collection of odd and unsavory figures sending a lot of money through a lot of companies to a lot of members of the Biden family, with little explanation why. Comer contends that bank records confirm more than $10 million in payments, run through at least 20 businesses, mostly limited liability companies, to the president’s son Hunter Biden; the president’s brother, James Biden; James’s wife, Sara Jones Biden; Hallie Biden (widow of Joe Biden’s son Beau, who died in 2015); Hunter’s ex-wife, Kathleen Buhle; Hunter’s current wife, Melissa Cohen; and, as Comer noted, “three children of the president’s son and the president’s brother.” Just what goods or services did all those Biden family members provide to those companies? https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/05/18/foreign-payments-to-biden-family-members/ You remember the enforced narrative the laptop wasn't real, it was the "new pizzagate" a product of the GOP to smear poor Hunter. Trump was impeached for abusing power trying to "falsely claim" there was something rotten in the Biden/Burisma exchanges. I know you know all this. You were not a passive observer. The Bidens made money from overseas in spite of their fans disinformation campaigns to deny the obvious. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/19/hunter-biden-story-russian-disinfo-430276 If you are genuine and sincere. Please copy an old post from this world news forum - let's say from before mid 2022 where it stated explicitly that Hunter Biden and the biden family were - as we all know they were - receiving large amounts of unexplainable money from foreigners. Gd luck. 1 1 3
Popular Post candide Posted June 28, 2023 Popular Post Posted June 28, 2023 3 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said: How can you possibly deny the set in stone narrative (that was false) and that ran for years. It was forbidden online to state the facts that the bidens were being paid millions from overseas because the left claimed it was all LIES. Remember? ""Nothing was unethical,” Joe Biden said of Hunter Biden’s role on the board of the Ukrainian energy company Burisma. “My son has no made money from China. The only guy who has made money from China was this guy," he said, directing his comments at Trump. " https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/10/22/presidential-debate-biden-trump-clash-hunter-biden-emails/3717412001/ "White House communications director Kate Bedingfield on Thursday insisted that President Biden didn’t lie at a 2020 presidential debate when he claimed that his son Hunter Biden didn’t make money in China or engage in unethical overseas business deals. Bedingfield stood by the claims even after they were demonstrated to be untrue as major US newspapers increasingly focus on the first son’s dealings amid reports he may soon face criminal charges — with the Washington Post and New York Times belatedly confirming the authenticity of Hunter Biden emails first reported by The Post in October 2020 ahead of the final presidential debate." https://nypost.com/2022/03/31/wh-claims-biden-didnt-lie-about-hunter-at-debate-despite-reporting/ This false narrative ran until Comer's committee showed the bank records for transactions that the left assured us never happened. The Washington Post finally tried getting ahead of the story they spent years denying a few months ago. "Yet we’re still left with a motley collection of odd and unsavory figures sending a lot of money through a lot of companies to a lot of members of the Biden family, with little explanation why. Comer contends that bank records confirm more than $10 million in payments, run through at least 20 businesses, mostly limited liability companies, to the president’s son Hunter Biden; the president’s brother, James Biden; James’s wife, Sara Jones Biden; Hallie Biden (widow of Joe Biden’s son Beau, who died in 2015); Hunter’s ex-wife, Kathleen Buhle; Hunter’s current wife, Melissa Cohen; and, as Comer noted, “three children of the president’s son and the president’s brother.” Just what goods or services did all those Biden family members provide to those companies? https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/05/18/foreign-payments-to-biden-family-members/ You remember the enforced narrative the laptop wasn't real, it was the "new pizzagate" a product of the GOP to smear poor Hunter. Trump was impeached for abusing power trying to "falsely claim" there was something rotten in the Biden/Burisma exchanges. I know you know all this. You were not a passive observer. The Bidens made money from overseas in spite of their fans disinformation campaigns to deny the obvious. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/19/hunter-biden-story-russian-disinfo-430276 If you are genuine and sincere. Please copy an old post from this world news forum - let's say from before mid 2022 where it stated explicitly that Hunter Biden and the biden family were - as we all know they were - receiving large amounts of unexplainable money from foreigners. Gd luck. The Burisma conspiracy theory has been debunked long time ago, and it is not illegal to make business with Chinese companies. As usual, you've got nothing! 3 1
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