ChaiyaTH Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, bkk6060 said: Just about every girl I know who works in a bar makes more then a British pensioner. British pension is what around 30k baht a month? What a sad joke. I guess you don't know many girls then, because the majority barely makes that. Not to mention that it is obvious that this can only be earned for a limited duration, nothing will be saved up usually, no retirement is build up etc etc etc etc. If you put that in perspective, even girls earning 50K in reality only earn 15K, if they would save it up accordingly to the limiting factors such as age, in that job. Not to mention they are usually wasted after doing that, never can do a normal job again + health issues of years long drinking shots and more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 1 hour ago, bob smith said: where you there??? what a ridiculous reply. You need a hobby, something a bit more interesting that arguments over the unsubstantiated unwinable subject you chose. Painting by numbers could be good ... By the way, perhaps it's a successful bar and the mamasan already earns more than you? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob smith Posted July 17, 2023 Author Share Posted July 17, 2023 1 minute ago, scorecard said: By the way, perhaps it's a successful bar and the mamasan already earns more than you? well, that would be great.. but if so, then why the open hostility? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaiyaTH Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 (edited) If a girl was not ignorant and naive in the first place, they would not be in a bar anymore. So you can expect to get the BS stories if discussing certain subjects with these ladies, let alone a mama san. I recall a similar conversation between a guy and 2 girls in a bar recently, who thought that if they married in Thailand, they automatically would get everything if the foreigner died, even if this was money or wealth in other countries and bought / earned before marriage. They kicked him out too after he told them to be wrong, it seemed like this broke their dreams or something. One just got married and was the mamasan / owner. Edited July 17, 2023 by ChaiyaTH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Just now, bob smith said: well, that would be great.. but if so, then why the open hostility? She wants you to earn moe ans then spend more. Are you a *star* at her establishment? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 (edited) One of the most valuable lessons I ever learned was to not try to win an argument with ignorance, manifested as a human. I just let them believe in their bizarre notions. Of course she was wrong. It is all about merit. A smart, ambitious and creative gal should be able to ascend to the highest levels she can. And there are times when a woman can and should pay, or at least split the bill. No honey, no money. Edited July 17, 2023 by spidermike007 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 19 minutes ago, bkk6060 said: Just about every girl I know who works in a bar makes more then a British pensioner. British pension is what around 30k baht a month? What a sad joke. They are a lot better looking than you, and have equipment you don't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, ChaiyaTH said: If a girl was not ignorant and naive in the first place, they would not be in a bar anymore. So you can expect to get the BS stories if discussing certain subjects with these ladies, let alone a mama san. I recall a similar conversation between a guy and 2 girls in a bar recently, who thought that if they married in Thailand, they automatically would get everything if the foreigner died, even if this was money or wealth in other countries and bought / earned before marriage. They kicked him out too after he told them to be wrong, it seemed like we broke their dreams or something. Well you can find some twisted local 'beliefs' around these subjects. When my Thai son got married his loud mouth lady boy older brother in law (who lives permenantly in a fanyast world) did the rounds of all the outer members of brides family telling them: - By Thai law and Australian law when a man who has some connection to Australia marries all members of the brides family (parents, aunts, uncles, brothers, sisters in law, all kids, all regardless of age, working/not working ) are entitled to a monthly allowance of 50,000Baht from the Aust. gov't. They all signed up then lady boy presented the list to my son requesting that he get me to get it started. My son instantly told lady boy brother in law 'not true / no such thing. You will have to tell everybody on your list it's not true / not happening'. My son's lady boy BIL insisted it was true and he called the Aust. embassy in Bkk to get them to confirm. They didn't of course and told him to not ring back. Lady boy proceeded to tell all that the Aust. embassy is corrupt and is stealing all this money every month and they tell lies. Edited July 17, 2023 by scorecard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 The OP is in a different culture, where men are expected to foot the bill. Personally, I would be uncomfortable if it was a woman paying for me, due to the reversal of expectations. Thais are not ignorant in terms of their own milieu. They are ignorant of the wider world, due to an education system directed at maintaining the status quo. Just as well it does, because with better education maybe Thailand could become unaffordable for us. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 1 hour ago, bob smith said: any help appreciated. Easy, don't talk to the locals, especially avoid prostitutes too old to get customers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 typically the better way is ... by ignoring her 555 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 bob .... when your on the p_ss why even talk about a stupid topic like that, and why go to a girly bar where all you'll get is trouble. Haven't you learnt anything in your time here .... haha 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Lacessit said: Thais are not ignorant in terms of their own milieu. They are ignorant of the wider world, You should have put the word "some" before your crass statement! Your comment does NOT apply to ALL Thai people as you imply! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl sees all Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 8 minutes ago, scorecard said: Well you can find some twisted local 'beliefs' around these subjects. When my Thai son got married his loud mouth lady boy older brother in law did the rounds of all the outer members of rides family telling them: - By Thai law and Australian law when a man who has some connection to Australia marries all members of the brides family (parents, aunts, uncles, brothers, sisters in law, all kids) are entitled to a monthly allowance of 50,000Baht from the Aust. gov't. They all signed up then lady boy presented the list to my son requesting that he get me to get it started. My son instantly told lady boy brother in law 'not true / no such thing. You will have to tell everybody on your list it's not true / not happening. My son's lady boy BIL insisted it was true and he called the Aust. embassy in Bkk to get them to confirm. They didn't of course and told him to not ring back. Lady boy proceeded to tell all that the Aust. embassy is corrupt and is stealing all this money every month and they tell lies. Well, that explains everything. This equality stuff is nonsense. Soon they will having Prime Ministers, Queens and Military leaders. Girls!! Get back into the kitchen where you are best suited. Leave the heavy lifting to us guys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 11 minutes ago, scorecard said: Well you can find some twisted local 'beliefs' around these subjects. When my Thai son got married his loud mouth lady boy older brother in law (who lives permenantly in a fanyast world) did the rounds of all the outer members of brides family telling them: - By Thai law and Australian law when a man who has some connection to Australia marries all members of the brides family (parents, aunts, uncles, brothers, sisters in law, all kids, all regardless of age, working/not working ) are entitled to a monthly allowance of 50,000Baht from the Aust. gov't. They all signed up then lady boy presented the list to my son requesting that he get me to get it started. My son instantly told lady boy brother in law 'not true / no such thing. You will have to tell everybody on your list it's not true / not happening'. My son's lady boy BIL insisted it was true and he called the Aust. embassy in Bkk to get them to confirm. They didn't of course and told him to not ring back. Lady boy proceeded to tell all that the Aust. embassy is corrupt and is stealing all this money every month and they tell lies. Confused, not surprised, do you know what day of the week it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Just now, scottiejohn said: You should have put the word "some" before your crass statement! Your comment does NOT apply to ALL Thai people as you imply! Agree. However, the proportion is probably 90 - 95%. Fairly easy to measure, it's the number of Thais who have not been outside Thailand. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Lacessit said: Agree. However, the proportion is probably 90 - 95%. Fairly easy to measure, it's the number of Thais who have not been outside Thailand. The numbers of US Americans who have travelled is not much bigger, and you can see how easily they accept total lies. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 1 hour ago, bob smith said: Today i got into an argument at a bar with a 'mama san' or however u spell it. she was adamant that women should never ever foot the bill and shouldnt even be allowed to earn more money than a man, i told her thats ridiculous and she neeeds to understand that the world has evolved now. many women these days work in high paid jobs and bring in the dough... well she didnt like that and kicked me out of her bar. i left without paying any tip and i wont be goin back!! was I in the wrong? should women always be paid for ? are they not allowed to earn more than blokes? any help appreciated. Sometimes it is better to just nod and listen to what people have to say. No need to argue with people who is to sure about life or anything else, unless it helps the conversation where more people participate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob smith Posted July 17, 2023 Author Share Posted July 17, 2023 17 minutes ago, Lacessit said: Just as well it does, because with better education maybe Thailand could become unaffordable for us. disgraceful statement. i hope the thais rise up soon, realize their full potential and squeeze you well and truly out! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandsomeTallFarang Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Today? So you were at a bar, drinking in the early afternoon? She did you a favor by making you leave. Get your alocholic activities sorted out, bud. Normal people don't go to Bars at 2PM on a Monday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob smith Posted July 17, 2023 Author Share Posted July 17, 2023 13 minutes ago, Lacessit said: it's the number of Thais who have not been outside Thailand. she claimed to have lived in europe for 20 years!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biervoormij Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Bob what are you doing dealing with a lady in a bar?? You said in your "I think I'm having a nervous breakdown" thread. "Bar girls?? no thanks. Id rather defecate in my hands and clap! " You seem to be sharing your s!!t everywhere you go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Just now, bob smith said: disgraceful statement. i hope the thais rise up soon, realize their full potential and squeeze you well and truly out! You think I care about your opinion? It would take several generations to achieve what you want for me, I will be gone by then. As will you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1FinickyOne Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 If she works as a mamasan, then she knows that near all those girls/ladies earn more than their BF's and husbands... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, bob smith said: disgraceful statement. i hope the thais rise up soon, realize their full potential and squeeze you well and truly out! You have to agree, we all taking advantage of status Q in Thailand! There is no question about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geisha Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Why was the OP in a bar with girls for hire ? Why did he speak to the mama San ? Did he expect the ladies to pay for him ? Where does he think he is ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 1 hour ago, owl sees all said: I think the Mamasan has a point Bob. What is all this equality about? Men go to war and ladies tend to the wounded. Ladies cook the grub; guys change the pick-up engine oil. Girls play with Barbie; boys play with trains. A while back, it was the man who whacked the lady over the head, and dragged her to the cave. Let's enjoy the ladies for what they are. And if we can find a nice, honest, truthful one; then we have hit a so-called jack-pot. Well, at least 'til the dosh runs out. How are things going with Mrs. Owl? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob smith Posted July 17, 2023 Author Share Posted July 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, 1FinickyOne said: If she works as a mamasan, then she knows that near all those girls/ladies earn more than their BF's and husbands... why she lying then?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flexomike Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 2 hours ago, bob smith said: Today i got into an argument at a bar with a 'mama san' or however u spell it. she was adamant that women should never ever foot the bill and shouldnt even be allowed to earn more money than a man, i told her thats ridiculous and she neeeds to understand that the world has evolved now. many women these days work in high paid jobs and bring in the dough... well she didnt like that and kicked me out of her bar. i left without paying any tip and i wont be goin back!! was I in the wrong? should women always be paid for ? are they not allowed to earn more than blokes? any help appreciated. Is that the best you can come up with, surprised you even wanted to pay the bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl sees all Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, Lacessit said: How are things going with Mrs. Owl? Still quite difficult! But on the upside. I am getting my cuppa without having to whistle for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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