1 hour ago, RocketDog said:

Both Russia and China explicitly state that they oppose western countries whose political/social structures they strive to dismantle or dominate.

And in exactly the same words does America rail against communism and socialism. The number of countries America (for instance) has invaded  because it didn't like their politics goes on and on.

No offence but you don't seem to appreciate the desire of Thailand to maintain good relations with ALL sides.

Perhaps examine  why the Pentagon has no wish for America to acceed to the international court of justice. 

On 7/26/2023 at 4:10 PM, BarraMarra said:

If it has to be done it has to be done Charlie to stop Russian Missiles flattening Hospitals in Ukraine and civilians in a supermarket.

Russia is a highly barbaric nation. And it is run by a serial killing despot dictator, who has stolen billions from his people. What is the West supposed to do? Stand by and watch him kill women and children like it was a sport? 

 

I am thrilled they are helping to defend Ukraine. 

11 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Russia is a highly barbaric nation. And it is run by a serial killing despot dictator, who has stolen billions from his people. What is the West supposed to do? Stand by and watch him kill women and children like it was a sport? 

 

I am thrilled they are helping to defend Ukraine. 

This sounds suspiciously  like the  rhetoric that led to the Golf war to me.

You know, the Iraqis breaking in the hospital stealing the  incubators and throwing the babies on the floor, WMDs etc.

USA United States of Amnesia. 

Yea, yea, , save your breath, I know, this one is different. 

16 minutes ago, sirineou said:

This sounds suspiciously  like the  rhetoric that led to the Golf war to me.

You know, the Iraqis breaking in the hospital stealing the  incubators and throwing the babies on the floor, WMDs etc.

USA United States of Amnesia. 

Yea, yea, , save your breath, I know, this one is different. 

Every conflict is different.

But this conflict is more like WW1 and WW2 than Iraq.

 

35 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Every conflict is different.

But this conflict is more like WW1 and WW2 than Iraq.

 

Agree, Iraq was so much worse.  

39 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Every conflict is different.

But this conflict is more like WW1 and WW2 than Iraq.

 

The dance might be different but the music sounds suspiciously the same to me. 

Like WW! and WW2 but with modern weapons,  WW3 is what I am afraid of , . Hopefully it won't get that far. 

At this point the best we can hope for is a protracted cold war, that few of us will live long enough to see the end of. 

Another real possibility is to see the  dollar lose its dominance as a world trade  currency.

  US sanctions on  Russian  is making  many countries  very nervous that they could be next if they dont play ball , And with the rise of China countries will have to chose sides or somehow remain  neutral and wait to see how things play out, 

 Hence the emergence of the BRICS countries,

  If Such occurrence is to happen we could see the value of the dollar nosedive. With at least for me negative conciseness. (My income is in Dollars) 

"More than 40 countries have expressed an interest and, of those, 22 have formally asked to join, including Argentina and “all the major Global South countries,” he said on July 20. Saudi Arabia, Iran, Bangladesh and the United Arab Emirates are among those interested, "  

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/energy/2023/07/20/how-brics-became-a-real-club-and-why-others-want-in/70540b60-2704-11ee-9201-826e5bb78fa1_story.html. 

I am now 66 and all my life has been compromised by one war or another, Personally I am tired of it. If we are to survive as a species, History will not judge us well. 

I just read an article," Fresh Ukrainian Troops send to the front" To which I immediately thought " More young lives into the meat grinder to satisfy the greed of old men"  Both Biden and Putin. I hope one falls out of a tall building and falls on the other . A win win situation IMO 

 

On 7/26/2023 at 4:55 AM, John Drake said:

The dominoes all fell. Southeast Asia, except Malaysia, is part of the Communist Chinese Bloc, which includes China's ally, Russia.

I dont think that's correct.... The Philippines nor Vietnam are getting along with China. 

On 7/26/2023 at 3:41 PM, BarraMarra said:

No Fruit pudding they stopped Hussein gassing his own men woman and Kids and stopped Gadaffi putting bombs on Aircraft. and stopping Isis beheading westerners.

No. They protected their national oil interests. Had absolutely nothing to do with morals. 

4 minutes ago, sirineou said:

The dance might be different but the music sounds suspiciously the same to me. 

Like WW! and WW2 but with modern weapons,  WW3 is what I am afraid of , . Hopefully it won't get that far. 

At this point the best we can hope for is a protracted cold war, that few of us will live long enough to see the end of. 

Another real possibility is to see the  dollar lose its dominance as a world trade  currency.

  US sanctions on  Russian  is making  many countries  very nervous that they could be next if they dont play ball , And with the rise of China countries will have to chose sides or somehow remain  neutral and wait to see how things play out, 

 Hence the emergence of the BRICS countries,

  If Such occurrence is to happen we could see the value of the dollar nosedive. With at least for me negative conciseness. (My income is in Dollars) 

"More than 40 countries have expressed an interest and, of those, 22 have formally asked to join, including Argentina and “all the major Global South countries,” he said on July 20. Saudi Arabia, Iran, Bangladesh and the United Arab Emirates are among those interested, "  

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/energy/2023/07/20/how-brics-became-a-real-club-and-why-others-want-in/70540b60-2704-11ee-9201-826e5bb78fa1_story.html. 

I am now 66 and all my life has been compromised by one war or another, Personally I am tired of it. If we are to survive as a species, History will not judge us well. 

I just read an article," Fresh Ukrainian Troops send to the front" To which I immediately thought " More young lives into the meat grinder to satisfy the greed of old men"  Both Biden and Putin. I hope one falls out of a tall building and falls on the other . A win win situation IMO 

 

Suggesting that Zelinsky and Putin are equivalents indicates very muddled thinking.

On 7/26/2023 at 3:51 PM, BarraMarra said:

Who wants to trade with a Nation aiding Putins war ?

USA and Europe apparently. Ever heard of China? 

On 7/26/2023 at 3:55 PM, John Drake said:

The dominoes all fell. Southeast Asia, except Malaysia, is part of the Communist Chinese Bloc, which includes China's ally, Russia.

You think Singapore is part of the "communist block" - almost made me fall off my chair laughing ????????????

10 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Suggesting that Zelinsky and Putin are equivalents indicates very muddled thinking.

Maybe

 but I don't see where I even mentioned Zelinsky. At most he is a minor player,

On 7/26/2023 at 5:52 PM, Jacques Clouseau said:

True it is really the equivalent of the US, Russia, China or India on every single level...

That's about as on point as comparing it to San Marino or Lichtenstein. A totally useless analogy. 

4 minutes ago, sirineou said:

Maybe

 but I don't see where I even mentioned Zelinsky. At most he is a minor player,

Oh the conspiracy theory B.S. again. So predictable. 

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Oh the conspiracy theory B.S. again. So predictable. 

Yea dismiss anything one does not like as conspiracy theory. 

It is simply a propaganda device to disqualify and dismiss

A cheap debating technique IMO 

11 minutes ago, mikebike said:

That's about as on point as comparing it to San Marino or Lichtenstein. A totally useless analogy. 

I was replying to a totally useless comment.

7 minutes ago, sirineou said:

Yea dismiss anything one does not like as conspiracy theory. 

It is simply a propaganda device to disqualify and dismiss

A cheap debating technique IMO 

It's hard to imagine a more perfect fit for leader of Ukraine during this war than Zelinsky. He's the opposite of a minor player. Ukraine would have been doomed long ago without him. 

Are any western countries blocking Russian tourists?

Most countries say one thing and do something else. It is called Politics.

7 minutes ago, Issanman said:

Are any western countries blocking Russian tourists?

Yes.

On 7/26/2023 at 2:57 PM, BarraMarra said:

Thailand is welcoming Russians into Thailand

Thailand is welcoming Russian tourists, just as most countries allow Russian visitors, what is wrong with that?

On 7/26/2023 at 2:57 PM, BarraMarra said:

The question has to be asked is do they realise what sanctions could start happening against a country supporting Russian involvement in Ukraine

The question has to be asked, do you realise that no countries are going to sanction Thailand for allowing Russian visitors?   If that happened all the other countries (i.e. most countries) would have to ban ordinary Russians from entry also. Allowing Russian visitors is not a declaration of "supporting Russian involvement in Ukraine".

On 7/26/2023 at 2:57 PM, BarraMarra said:

are they just doing it for financial gain or simply a lack of backbone and Morality.       

What are all the other countries (including yours, I'd bet) that permit entry for Russians doing it for?

On 7/26/2023 at 2:57 PM, BarraMarra said:

Most Country's around the World are condemning Russia for invading another Country

But they are not banning ordinary Russians!

On 7/26/2023 at 4:51 PM, FritsSikkink said:

Yes, it is Thai / Russian bashing as you don't have a problem with Western countries invading Arab countries.

Neither is he concerned about western countries, including his own, allowing Russian visitors in!

22 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

most Country's have banned Russian Tourists

Nonsense.  Most countries have not banned Russian tourists.

48 minutes ago, Issanman said:

Are any western countries blocking Russian tourists?

No.

40 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

48 minutes ago, Issanman said:

Are any western countries blocking Russian tourists?

Yes.

Which ones have banned Russian visitors?

On 7/26/2023 at 3:41 PM, BarraMarra said:

No Fruit pudding they stopped Hussein gassing his own men woman and Kids and stopped Gadaffi putting bombs on Aircraft. and stopping Isis beheading westerners.

I don't remember anybody invading Zimbabwe when Mugabe was slaughtering thousands of his own people...There's no oil in Zimbabwe though is there?

Well i Might as well ask the team to block this thread as your not interested in debating it instead your harping on about China or some long winded thread about

WW1 and 2 and of course America im surprised Biden's not been roped into it. I live in the UK there are no planes flying into England carrying Russians with there buckets and spades for the beach or in Greece or Spain there banned from flying in there too. To my knowledge no Iraqis or Afghans have been caught kidnapping kids or sending Tactical Nukes and positioning them in another country. Oh and i don't care where Saddam got his gas from all i know is he committed war crimes on his own people when he used them. Again nothing to do with this Topic.