snoop1130 Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 A deputy leader of the Move Forward party said today (Tuesday) that he will propose to the party’s executive committee, at today’s meeting, that they vote in support of Pheu Thai party’s prime ministerial candidate in parliament. Pol Maj Gen Suphisarn Pakdinarunart reasoned that, since the Pheu Thai party shares similar views with the Move Forward party, namely that the Constitution should be amended to remove senators’ power in the selection of the prime minister, the Move Forward party should support Pheu Thai’s candidate. The Pheu Thai party has joined hands with the Bhumjaithai party to become the core parties in an attempt form a government, on the conditions that the lèse majesté law is left intact and the coalition will not include the Move Forward party. The party has appealed for support from senators and MPs for its prime ministerial candidate, Srettha Thavisin, so a new government can be formed without further delay. Caption: Srettha Thavisin Full Story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/move-forward-deputy-leader-proposes-party-votes-for-pheu-thais-prime-ministerial-candidate/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2023-08-08 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post brommers Posted August 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2023 So having been shafted by PT this guy thinks that MFP should vote for their PM candidate because of shared values. PT will happily drop these values the moment Anutin demands this because PT have no values, no moral compass and no shame. But the voters have values and they will respond harshly at the first opportunity because once again they are being betrayed by power hungry egotistical prostitues masquerading as politicians. 5 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffggi Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 More to this than what appears on the surface .................................LOL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 5 hours ago, snoop1130 said: The Pheu Thai party has joined hands with the Bhumjaithai party to become the core parties in an attempt form a government, on the conditions that the lèse majesté law is left intact and the coalition will not include the Move Forward party Tail wagging the dog. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post damian Posted August 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 9, 2023 He should perhaps wait until PT announce the other members of their coalition of crooks. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolong Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 His reasoning does not make enough sense to dispel my 'nair norn' suspicion that he's simply been offered some tat for his tit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herfiehandbag Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Perhaps as bitter pill to swallow, but if it allows Pheu Thai and Bhumjaithai to form a government then maybe better than the alternative, which the "establishment" is working towards, which is Prawit as Prime Minister, propped up by Pheu Thai and Bhumjaithai. Still, they have two weeks at least - plenty of time if needed to suspend/dissolve Move Forward and remove their vote. Such a move would be blatant, even by the standards of the current shenanigans, and it would be darkly entertaining watching Wissanu spinning like a demented top as he explained it away, but it could be a case of needs must. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 ThaiEnquirer News Summary – August 9, 2023 - Pheu Thai party’s plans to unveil new coalition members hits a bump as one of the smaller parties with 2 seats sent out a signal nearly at midnight yesterday. - Some members of Move Forward party come out to say that they would support Pheu Thai party’s Prime Minister candidate only if the 2 uncles (Ruam Thai Saang Chart and Palang Pracharat parties) were not part of the coalition. - Pheu Thai party holds its meeting of MPs to hammer out differences and to possibly state to its MPs that it is doing what it can to form govt. https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1689102304967110657 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnative Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 Just what I said MF should do a week or so ago. Proclaim loudly and publicly that MF, the party that is in favor of modifying Article 112, the party that is in favor of far-reaching reform, including of the military, will stand with PT and vote for the PT candidate as PM. Now, what are the junta parties and the Senators going to do? Be seen as also standing along side MF, and be seen as agreeing with MF, if they, too, vote for the PT candidate; or, be seen as once again voting against the will of the voters, voting against democracy, and voting to once again delay the forming of a government. Win-win either way for MF. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannork Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 13 minutes ago, newnative said: Just what I said MF should do a week or so ago. Proclaim loudly and publicly that MF, the party that is in favor of modifying Article 112, the party that is in favor of far-reaching reform, including of the military, will stand with PT and vote for the PT candidate as PM. Now, what are the junta parties and the Senators going to do? Be seen as also standing along side MF, and be seen as agreeing with MF, if they, too, vote for the PT candidate; or, be seen as once again voting against the will of the voters, voting against democracy, and voting to once again delay the forming of a government. Win-win either way for MF. If all of M F vote for Settha, the senators' votes are superfluous. But why should MF vote for a party that deserted them rather than standing by their side and going into Opposition? To hellll with PT, let them crawl to the senators for votes 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokReady Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, snoop1130 said: on the conditions that the lèse majesté law is left intact and the coalition will not include the Move Forward party. But, if they want to ensure the above never happens, then the below can never happen either. Since without the protection of the senators, a party that wants to do away with 112 can be elected next time. 14 hours ago, snoop1130 said: the Constitution should be amended to remove senators’ power in the selection of the prime minister In order to protect 112, the senators have to be able to choose who will be in power, not the electorate. ????♂️ Edited August 9, 2023 by BangkokReady 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, bannork said: If all of M F vote for Settha, the senators' votes are superfluous. But why should MF vote for a party that deserted them rather than standing by their side and going into Opposition? To hellll with PT, let them crawl to the senators for votes The statement by Pita after his party stepped out of the coalition does give indication of where MFP’s votes will likely go. “ Forming a new government that ends the military’s grip on politics is more important than becoming Thailand’s next prime minister, Move Forward Party leader Pita Limjaroenrat”. Also the news about the senators are split rather than totally against voting for Sretha is encouraging. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnative Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, bannork said: If all of M F vote for Settha, the senators' votes are superfluous. But why should MF vote for a party that deserted them rather than standing by their side and going into Opposition? To hellll with PT, let them crawl to the senators for votes That's an excellent outcome right there--the Senators' votes being superfluous. If PT has any smarts and wants to redeem itself, as soon as it gets into power it should invite MF back into the coalition--which is why MF should vote for the PT candidate for PM. If any coalition parties want to leave at that point if MF rejoins, fine--the ones that leave likely would be the ones not wanted, anyway. PT and MF need to be working together, as was initially planned after the election. Sort of a roundabout way of getting back to Plan A. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfd101 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 13 minutes ago, newnative said: That's an excellent outcome right there--the Senators' votes being superfluous. If PT has any smarts and wants to redeem itself, as soon as it gets into power it should invite MF back into the coalition--which is why MF should vote for the PT candidate for PM. If any coalition parties want to leave at that point if MF rejoins, fine--the ones that leave likely would be the ones not wanted, anyway. PT and MF need to be working together, as was initially planned after the election. Sort of a roundabout way of getting back to Plan A. And in any case, if MFP does vote for Srettha as PM, they should make it clear to PTP that they're expecting some pretty weighty policy quid quo pros down the track, failure of which will have clear consequences at the next election. Question: I assume that any move to 'abolish' MFP would remove only those MFP members who were elected on the party vote (as opposed to individually in each electorate)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PETERTHEEATER Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 I suggest the Police Major General decides whether he wants to be a policeman or a politician since the two occuoations are incompatible. Robber and politician, OK. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnative Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 4 hours ago, mfd101 said: And in any case, if MFP does vote for Srettha as PM, they should make it clear to PTP that they're expecting some pretty weighty policy quid quo pros down the track, failure of which will have clear consequences at the next election. Question: I assume that any move to 'abolish' MFP would remove only those MFP members who were elected on the party vote (as opposed to individually in each electorate)? I agree about getting some payback from PT for the votes. I don't know what happens to MF members if MF is abolished. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 (edited) Why is a Police Major General a deputy of a so called populist people's progressive party? Isn't that what were trying to get away from? I'm sure most won't find this terribly odd or confusing as I might. Edited August 9, 2023 by zzaa09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannork Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 5 hours ago, Eric Loh said: The statement by Pita after his party stepped out of the coalition does give indication of where MFP’s votes will likely go. “ Forming a new government that ends the military’s grip on politics is more important than becoming Thailand’s next prime minister, Move Forward Party leader Pita Limjaroenrat”. Also the news about the senators are split rather than totally against voting for Sretha is encouraging. But I don't think PT can bring Thaksin home if Pravit and his party are excluded from the government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannork Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 5 hours ago, newnative said: That's an excellent outcome right there--the Senators' votes being superfluous. If PT has any smarts and wants to redeem itself, as soon as it gets into power it should invite MF back into the coalition--which is why MF should vote for the PT candidate for PM. If any coalition parties want to leave at that point if MF rejoins, fine--the ones that leave likely would be the ones not wanted, anyway. PT and MF need to be working together, as was initially planned after the election. Sort of a roundabout way of getting back to Plan A. It can't do that because the government has to take an oath of allegiance to the Crown as serving ministers. I believe to introduce a whole new party after that with portfolios assigned would be illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer90210 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 The distinguished voters in this forum will vote for any party that makes our visa issues easier and immigration red tape, loosen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 52 minutes ago, bannork said: But I don't think PT can bring Thaksin home if Pravit and his party are excluded from the government. Perhaps they've come to some sort of agreement, along with the blessings of higher entities. All of which was probably a deal drawn up some time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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