Man who threatened Biden shot dead in FBI raid in Utah

[Walker88]

21 minutes ago, BTB1977 said:

So much for free speech.  And having an opinion.  The socialist liberals democrats just shoot you down using the FBI as their strong arm to promote their communist ideas 

What are these 'socialists liberals democrats' ?

 

Are they the ones who believe in democracy and rule of law? Who believe threatening to assassinate a POTUS is wrong, and not 'free speech'?

 

Those democrats, incidentally, are the major contributors to the Federal Budget with their successful embrace of Capitalism. Oddly, it's Red States and those 'conservatives' who have the highest per capita representation on Social Security Disability Insurance (which is DEFINITELY socialism), and the largest net takers from the Federal trough.

 

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think you have no clue what you're trying to talk about.

[sirineou]

2 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think you have no clue what you're trying to talk about.

Nahh , you are not wrong. 

[Chomper Higgot]

Thoughts and prayers.

[LosLobo]

6 hours ago, riclag said:

Everyone knows 

violence-is never the alternative!

A 1 in 71 million thought actor  that got caught up in the news events since the indictments by bidens / garlands doj imop

stay tuned much more to come I expect,

Except for Trump and the hundreds of his supporters who have demonstrated otherwise.

 

Trump's rhetoric always seems to lead to violence.

 

Even GOP House Leader McCarthy knows this to be true, as is evident by his statement on the House floor about the January 6th insurrection.

 

“The president bears responsibility for Wednesday's attack on Congress by mob rioters,”

 

Is the 'much more to come', more of Trump induced violence or tomorrow's event in court when US Judge Tanya Chutkan upholds Special Counsel Jack Smith 'gag' order to curtail Trump's hate speech?

Edited August 10, 2023 by LosLobo

[FruitPudding]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Magadonians are not conservatives!

They're in a fascist cult.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/there-is-no-republican-party-conservative-judge-warns-trumps-maga-movement-has-america-in-grave-peril/ar-AA1f1bMo

 

 

 

I honestly don't know how you've gotten away with calling them fascists so many times without having your posts removed.

 

There's nothing factual about it; it's your opinion - yet you spout it like it's a fact.

 

You rarely provide any link/evidence when calling them fascists and you have never provided conclusive evidence to back up your claims.

[ozimoron]

14 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

What are these 'socialists liberals democrats' ?

 

Are they the ones who believe in democracy and rule of law? Who believe threatening to assassinate a POTUS is wrong, and not 'free speech'?

 

Those democrats, incidentally, are the major contributors to the Federal Budget with their successful embrace of Capitalism. Oddly, it's Red States and those 'conservatives' who have the highest per capita representation on Social Security Disability Insurance (which is DEFINITELY socialism), and the largest net takers from the Federal trough.

 

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think you have no clue what you're trying to talk about.

The funniest thing is they have no clue what communism is. They bandy the word around as some random pejorative. It says a lot about their cognitive ability to be frank.

[Jingthing]

43 minutes ago, BTB1977 said:

So much for free speech.  And having an opinion.  The socialist liberals democrats just shoot you down using the FBI as their strong arm to promote their communist ideas 

Death threats against presidents aren't speech. 

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Stop with the sleazy gaslighting.

You're not fooling anyone.

 

You said: To be fair, I think a lot on the extreme left would support summary executions for anyone wearing a MAGA hat.

 

FALSE!

If he wasn't on my ignore list I would have reported that post for advocating violence. These kind of comments foment violence from extremists on their own side. That kind of comment is why this post exists.

[Eleftheros]

5 hours ago, metisdead said:

A post has been removed.  If you use aberrant spelling or inflammatory, derogatory or profane names, your post will be removed and you may face a suspension.

You mean like the non-existent word and nonsense slur "Magadonian"?

[Berkshire]

44 minutes ago, BTB1977 said:

So much for free speech.  And having an opinion.  The socialist liberals democrats just shoot you down using the FBI as their strong arm to promote their communist ideas 

So this is your idea of a free America, allowing all manner of wingnuts to threaten to murder the President.  Not to mention Trump himself "encouraging" his unhinged followers to do harm to government officials.  People have and will get killed over your idea of "free speech." 

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, Eleftheros said:

You mean like the non-existent word and nonsense slur "Magadonian"?

 

So according to you, Trump is insulting his own cult fans?

 

Edited August 10, 2023 by Jingthing

[LosLobo]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

Maybe the guy was suffering with mental illness. Maybe he shot at police. Lots of possibilities out there so let's wait for the facts to emerge. I'm just stating that I hope he wasn't executed JUST for posting on FB. I'd like to think we haven't reached that stage just yet, even if he had a red cap on.

Coincidentally, Trump quietly revoked guns laws for the mentally ill back in 2017 shortly after taking office.

 

Perhaps Trump was extremely perceptive and realised he would have a need for these people to support his future campaigns.

 

'In 2017, Trump quietly rolled back an Obama-era regulation that made it harder for people with mental illness to buy guns'.

 

Trump made it easier for the mentally ill to get guns when he rolled back Obama regulation (nbcnews.com)

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Pay attention and you would know better, dude.

 

Touché!  ????

 

[novacova]

7 hours ago, Berkshire said:

One less MAGA nutter.....so many more to go.

 

6 hours ago, Jingthing said:

The Magadonian community has lost one of their so called patriots

 

Nice that you can come here and express your prejudices 

[Chomper Higgot]

14 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

I thought this was a Thai forum.????

It’s the ‘World News’ sub forum.

[silverhawk_usa]

He wasn't shot for his posts.  He wasn't shot for his speech.  He wasn't shot due to anyone else.  He was shot for aiming a gun at the FBI agents serving a legal warrant.  End of story.  

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, novacova said:

 

Nice that you can come here and express your prejudices 

He wasn't a nutter?

[sirineou]

1 minute ago, Berkshire said:

So this is your idea of a free America, allowing all manner of wingnuts to threaten to murder the President.  Not to mention Trump himself "encouraging" his unhinged followers to do harm to government officials.  People have and will get killed over your idea of "free speech." 

You cant reason with trumpsters. They have never read the constitution or anything else for that matter,

There limitations  to the first amendment free speech clause 

" narrow categories of speech are not protected from government restrictions. The main such categories are incitement, defamation, fraud, obscenity, child pornography, fighting words, and threats.  "

https://www.britannica.com/topic/First-Amendment/Permissible-restrictions-on-expression

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

Yes - a stupid post. I've had people threaten to kill me. I didn't execute them in their home. 

 

Maybe the guy was suffering with mental illness. Maybe he shot at police. Lots of possibilities out there so let's wait for the facts to emerge. I'm just stating that I hope he wasn't executed JUST for posting on FB. I'd like to think we haven't reached that stage just yet, even if he had a red cap on.

So for everyone else ‘let’s just wait for the facts’.

 

While you proceed with the wild suggestion of the guy being ‘executed JUST for posting on FB’.

[Jingthing]

3 minutes ago, novacova said:

 

Nice that you can come here and express your prejudices 

To assert that fascist Magadonian domestic terrorists are not patriots is a statement of fact. 

[novacova]

2 hours ago, FruitPudding said:

Exactly

 

How "the left" can think they are correct in this equation, I dunno.

It’s known as variable convoluted contradiction. After observing the human defect for awhile, one just ignores it and considers it a form of human waste.

[Jingthing]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

So for everyone else ‘let’s just wait for the facts’.

 

While you proceed with the wild suggestion of the guy being ‘executed JUST for posting on FB’.

The Magadonians are busy as we post spreading that lie and most of those morons will believe it. 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

6 hours ago, riclag said:

Everyone knows 

violence-is never the alternative!

Another Republican non-believer from your camp:

 

Marjorie Taylor Greene indicated support for executing prominent Democrats in 2018 and 2019 before running for Congress

 

(CNN) -- Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene repeatedly indicated support for executing prominent Democratic politicians in 2018 and 2019 before being elected to Congress, a CNN KFile review of hundreds of posts and comments from Greene’s Facebook page shows.

...

In one post, from January 2019, Greene liked a comment that said “a bullet to the head would be quicker” to remove House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. In other posts, Greene liked comments about executing FBI agents who, in her eyes, were part of the “deep state” working against Trump."

 

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/26/politics/marjorie-taylor-greene-democrats-violence/index.html

 

Edited August 10, 2023 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Another Republican non-believer from your camp:

 

Marjorie Taylor Greene indicated support for executing prominent Democrats in 2018 and 2019 before running for Congress

 

(CNN) -- Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene repeatedly indicated support for executing prominent Democratic politicians in 2018 and 2019 before being elected to Congress, a CNN KFile review of hundreds of posts and comments from Greene’s Facebook page shows.

...

In one post, from January 2019, Greene liked a comment that said “a bullet to the head would be quicker” to remove House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. In other posts, Greene liked comments about executing FBI agents who, in her eyes, were part of the “deep state” working against Trump."

 

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/26/politics/marjorie-taylor-greene-democrats-violence/index.html

 

Palin advocated assassination and then Gabby Giffords was shot by a right wing extremist.

[bignok]

12 minutes ago, silverhawk_usa said:

He wasn't shot for his posts.  He wasn't shot for his speech.  He wasn't shot due to anyone else.  He was shot for aiming a gun at the FBI agents serving a legal warrant.  End of story.  

They broke into his home against his will to stop his free speech. He was defending himself.

[ozimoron]

Just now, bignok said:

They broke into his home against his will to stop his free speech. He was defending himself.

He was threatening to assassinate the US president. You're trolling or on lalaland, take your pick. I reported your last post for trolling.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

6 minutes ago, bignok said:

They broke into his home against his will to stop his free speech. He was defending himself.

The FBI agents had legal search and arrest warrants for this guy, because he had publicly threatened to assassinate the president,  vice president and other government officials.

 

 

[ozimoron]

'They’re hearing the message': Trump’s incendiary rhetoric linked to Utah shooting

 

“Those are the dog whistle calls to his followers. They know what he's asking for. They know their threats, and they're all laughing in everybody's face that we can't stop him.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-news-2663106494/

[metisdead]

An off topic post the NHS in the UK and a reply has been removed.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

45 minutes ago, bignok said:

So the murdered him for speaking. That is called fascism.

 

He was shot and killed while FBI agents were trying to serve legal search and arrest warrants on him for threatening to assassinate the president, vice president and others.

 

There's zero evidence to suggest he was "murdered," and you have no credible source to show he was -- murder being an unlawful and premeditated killing.

 

Rather, he's a guy who previously posted regarding the FBI after their prior visit to his home:

 

"In a Facebook post days later cited in the affidavit, he said, “To my friends in the Federal Bureau of Idiots: I know you’re reading this and you have no idea how close your agents came to ‘violent eradication.’”

 

https://apnews.com/article/utah-biden-fbi-assassination-threat-ba3cc1d3b2f6cca8bd429febdcf04219