The Memo: Judge scrambles election with decision on Trump trial date

[bignok]

21 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

A tilt of the head, set of the lips and look in the eyes which needed to be present for what, one second, whilst the photographer fired of a burst of pictures, later selecting the one which best served.

 

I have seen some remarkable conclusions drawn in defence of Mr Trump on this board and elsewhere in the past few months but, my giddy aunt, you really are going for broke with this one!

Nope. I've seen several which all indicate a bad person. 99.9% likely she is bad.

[CharlieH]

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[bignok]

She is friends with Obamas. Donated money. Even when she was young and smiling she had bad eyes. Their is anger, resentment and frustration in her eyes.

 

She has a sense of entitlement.

 

This is all political no question. She hates Trump to the core.

[placeholder]

29 minutes ago, bignok said:

She is friends with Obamas. Donated money. Even when she was young and smiling she had bad eyes. Their is anger, resentment and frustration in her eyes.

 

She has a sense of entitlement.

 

This is all political no question. She hates Trump to the core.

"bad eyes"? Really. Your comment is absolutely not deranged in any way whatsoever. An absolutely rational and unbiased appraisal of the judge. Truly a model of thoughtfulness.

[Lacessit]

If Trump were innocent, he and his lawyers would want the four indictments dealt with as soon as possible. His desperate delay strategy relies on getting re-elected so he can pardon himself. Or institute authoritarian rule.

 

The Trumpers' claim the justice system is weaponized is total BS. Trump was indicted by grand juries composed of a cross-section of ordinary citizens.

The grand jury system is designed to indict only when there is strong evidence of a felony.

 

It's not as if Trump does not know his way around a courtroom, prior to becoming President he was involved in over 4000 legal actions. Pretending he is a victim won't fly. The judge is indicating the trial happens in the courtroom, not on social media. Trump's political campaign is secondary, as it should be.

 

Perhaps the most disturbing aspect of this saga is the willingness of supporters and craven politicians to countenance the election of a convicted felon to the office of President. Moral vacuity is inadequate as a description of their conduct.

[LosLobo]

2 hours ago, JonnyF said:

I wonder if she'd have a different opinion about working the trial around the defendants work commitments if the defendant was working for the BLM movement that she so loves to defend?

 

2 hours ago, JonnyF said:

I'm not sure why you felt the need to bring her race/sex into it?

Baiting again?

Yet, you brought race into the conversation with 'BLM', ie Black Lives Matter, a social movement dedicated to fighting racism against Black people!

 

Baiting again?

 

[bignok]

12 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

you brought race into the conversation with 'BLM', ie Black Lives Matter, a social movement dedicated to fighting racism against Black people!

False. BLM is racist by definition. All lives matter. Fascist group run by crooks and racists. I see you support them.

[LosLobo]

55 minutes ago, bignok said:

Their is anger, resentment and frustration in her eyes.

 

She has a sense of entitlement.

 

This is all political no question. She hates Trump to the core.

Their (sic) is anger, resentment and frustration in her eyes?

 

You mean like this?

 

[pomchop]

2 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Liberal judge uses the justice system to derail right wing politician during election campaign against Liberal opponents.

 

Liberals - "Move along please. Nothing to see here". ????

yeah that damn liberal judge and dem attorney generals must have put all the life long trumper republicans under a voodo spell to get them to testify under oath and under death threats from MAGA for  telling the truth as to what they personally saw and heard as to trumps crimes....why if one didn't spend 3o seconds thinking about the fact that trumps biggest problem is coming from republican testimony...then one might conclude and blame liberals for the fact that conservatives are the ones who are driving the nails into donnies coffin...

 

How many more times does it have to be spelled out that the reason trump got indicted was that he likely committed crimes and his fellow trumpers are the ones who  have and will testify against him.

[bignok]

9 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

Their (sic) is anger, resentment and frustration in her eyes?

 

You mean like this?

 

 

 Eyes indicate fear. Fair enough considering how many corrupt democrats are after him.

[bignok]

https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/05/the-corruption-of-black-lives-matter/

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, bignok said:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/05/the-corruption-of-black-lives-matter/

Way off topic, why not start your own thread

[Purdey]

Looking back at other requests for postponement until later, I imagine courts have heard,

Saddam: "That date isn't convenient as it is the day before I have an important meeting to invade somewhere."

Goering: "The Nuremburg trial needs to be postponed as I have an important event in Paraguay to attend the day before."

Julius and Ethel Rosenberg: "The trial date is inconvenient as we have a super appointment with Stalin in Moscow the day before."

 

Sorry for the sarcasm, but I doubt courts consider plaintiff appointments.

 

[spidermike007]

1 hour ago, pomchop said:

yeah that damn liberal judge and dem attorney generals must have put all the life long trumper republicans under a voodo spell to get them to testify under oath and under death threats from MAGA for  telling the truth as to what they personally saw and heard as to trumps crimes....why if one didn't spend 3o seconds thinking about the fact that trumps biggest problem is coming from republican testimony...then one might conclude and blame liberals for the fact that conservatives are the ones who are driving the nails into donnies coffin...

 

How many more times does it have to be spelled out that the reason trump got indicted was that he likely committed crimes and his fellow trumpers are the ones who  have and will testify against him.

What you are saying is simple truth. But remember, his camp coined the phrase "truth is not truth". Deception, deflection, untruth, lies, innuendo, mockery, juvenile taunts, and doing everything in his power to avoid paying for any of it, is the M.O. of this charlatan. And unfortunately, many of his devotees buy into this. I am planning a trip to Europe next year, with some family for a family wedding. My sister and brother in law (who are conservatives) told me them are not going to spend as much time there as they had originally planned. When I asked why, she said Europe is just not important to us. I think that was simply a reflection of how much Trump has belittled Europe over the years, somehow getting into their heads. I did not even know how to respond.

[herfiehandbag]

2 hours ago, bignok said:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/05/the-corruption-of-black-lives-matter/

I am in little doubt that the people running Black Lives Matter are corrupt, and have hijacked the organisation, meant to help African Americans, and have turned it, and particularly it's financial operations, to benefit them. That needs to be thoroughly investigated and if necessary prosecuted. That is going to be difficult in America's poisonous and polarised racial environment, but it needs to be done.

 

It has nothing, nothing, to do with the racially inspired comments on this judge, and on the Georgia District Attorney. Trump is making/engineering them because he knows that such filthy behaviour will appeal to his base. Suggestions that a photograph reveal the judge to be "evil scum" are pretty much par for the course with this bigoted small minded and ignorant camp.

 

Now I said that America has a poisonous and polarised racial environment. That arises from a deep seated and significant white supremacist faction which is both numerous and politically powerful in American society, a society which whilst preaching freedom and equality for all peoples has, since the formation of the Republic, initially basically exterminated it's indigenous peoples, and then set about it's black community. Freed from slavery yes, but then subjected to political, social, economic, educational, religious and penal segregation for the subsequent 150 years. Goodness me, arguably more oppressive than anything to come out of southern Africa.

 

That last paragraph are my personal opinions, there again no more ridiculous (much less in fact) than deducing and declaring the essentials of this judges character and her fitness to preside from a photograph!  I suspect that the sexist and racist rubbishing of Trump's prosecutors and judges bear out my opinions; just wait until we get to jury selection!

Edited August 29, 2023 by herfiehandbag

[billd766]

4 hours ago, placeholder said:

And exactly how has this judge demeaned, degraded, or belittled Trump?

IMO the judge reminded Trump the she is in charge and not him.

 

As can be seen, a few posters don't like the truth and believe that Trump should be allowed to do whatever HE wants, with no comeback.

 

No ordinary citizen would be treated with kid gloves like this.

[xylophone]

3 hours ago, bignok said:

She is friends with Obamas. Donated money. Even when she was young and smiling she had bad eyes. Their is anger, resentment and frustration in her eyes.

 

She has a sense of entitlement.

 

This is all political no question. She hates Trump to the core.

I, and I would suppose many others on this thread, feel really sorry for you when you post nonsense like this. You are to be pitied.

 

And as for your comment, "This is all political no question. She hates trump to the core", it should be pretty obvious to you from the comments you see on the forum, that many posters hate trump to the core because of what he is.

 

No other reason.

[herfiehandbag]

34 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

What you are saying is simple truth. But remember, his camp coined the phrase "truth is not truth". Deception, deflection, untruth, lies, innuendo, mockery, juvenile taunts, and doing everything in his power to avoid paying for any of it, is the M.O. of this charlatan. And unfortunately, many of his devotees buy into this. I am planning a trip to Europe next year, with some family for a family wedding. My sister and brother in law (who are conservatives) told me them are not going to spend as much time there as they had originally planned. When I asked why, she said Europe is just not important to us. I think that was simply a reflection of how much Trump has belittled Europe over the years, somehow getting into their heads. I did not even know how to respond.

It will probably be little consolation to you that amongst many Europeans ( the continent not the political construct) and other "allied nations" America has lost influence since Trump's election, and in many corridors of power, and spheres of activity much thought and discussion will be turning to how to proceed should America withdraw, or indeed perhaps collapse into an ineffectual ( internationally) maelstrom. Imagine, all that military power projection, vast fleets, aircraft carriers, submarines, armies and air forces bobbing around hamstrung by the lack of a coherent government.

 

It is being considered, you can bet on it!

Edited August 29, 2023 by herfiehandbag

[poyai111]

5 hours ago, placeholder said:

Clearly you don't know that the reason that the trial didn't take place much earlier is that Trump's legal team kept on filing frivolous motions which were repeatedly denied but were time consuming. And the ridiculous to delay the trial for 3 years is of a piece with that.

Frivolous! Justice must be seen to be the guiding light and consider the fact that in the course of discovery, were the Trump team of lawyers able to process 1000 pages a day, the entire document of the indictment would take in excess of 10 years to be completed 

[bignok]

38 minutes ago, Purdey said:

Looking back at other requests for postponement until later, I imagine courts have heard,

Saddam: "That date isn't convenient as it is the day before I have an important meeting to invade somewhere."

Goering: "The Nuremburg trial needs to be postponed as I have an important event in Paraguay to attend the day before."

Julius and Ethel Rosenberg: "The trial date is inconvenient as we have a super appointment with Stalin in Moscow the day before."

 

Sorry for the sarcasm, but I doubt courts consider plaintiff appointments.

 

Actually the do unless you are charged with murder or rape. Your bias is on show.

[bignok]

24 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

I am in little doubt that the people running Black Lives Matter are corrupt, and have hijacked the organisation, meant to help African Americans, and have turned it, and particularly it's financial operations, to benefit them. That needs to be thoroughly investigated and if necessary prosecuted. That is going to be difficult in America's poisonous and polarised racial environment, but it needs to be done.

 

It has nothing, nothing, to do with the racially inspired comments on this judge, and on the Georgia District Attorney. Trump is making/engineering them because he knows that such filthy behaviour will appeal to his base. Suggestions that a photograph reveal the judge to be "evil scum" are pretty much par for the course with this bigoted small minded and ignorant camp.

 

Now I said that America has a poisonous and polarised racial environment. That arises from a deep seated and significant white supremacist faction which is both numerous and politically powerful in American society, a society which whilst preaching freedom and equality for all peoples has, since the formation of the Republic, initially basically exterminated it's indigenous peoples, and then set about it's black community. Freed from slavery yes, but then subjected to political, social, economic, educational, religious and penal segregation for the subsequent 150 years. Goodness me, arguably more oppressive than anything to come out of southern Africa.

 

That last paragraph are my personal opinions, there again no more ridiculous (much less in fact) than deducing and declaring the essentials of this judges character and her fitness to preside from a photograph!  I suspect that the sexist and racist rubbishing of Trump's prosecutors and judges bear out my opinions; just wait until we get to jury selection!

Take the blinkers off. That judge gave a white guy 5 years jail for protesting. In Oz he gets a month.

[bignok]

She's a nasty piece of work

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66383603

 

Tougher than any judge

Smirks like a serial killer

 

Clear power kick she gets.

 

Edited August 29, 2023 by bignok

[rudi49jr]

5 hours ago, JonnyF said:

An incredible choice of date. More evidence of the weaponizing of the justice system for political gains. A sad state of affairs for the once great US of A.

 

I wonder if she'd have a different opinion about working the trial around the defendants work commitments if the defendant was working for the BLM movement that she so loves to defend?

 

I'd imagine the judge in the OP will have the same expression on her face as she deals with Trump throughout the trial.

 

Sad times for US justice/politics.

As other posters here have already pointed out, it was Trump who weaponized the DoJ during his presidency, by going after people who were investigating him, or people he saw as a threat.

 

And you do realize that the only reason Trump wants to become president again is to go after everyone who had ever slighted him, either real or perceived. Trump has been very clear about that, that he will appoint his sycophants everywhere possible and use the DoJ for ‘payback’ to everyone who has ever so much as looked funny at him.
 

Trump is a thin-skinned, narcissistic and extremely vindictive man child who will stop at nothing to get back at his (many, many) ‘enemies’. He should never be allowed anywhere near a position of power ever again. Just my two cents.

[spidermike007]

23 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

It will probably be little consolation to you that amongst many Europeans ( the continent not the political construct) and other "allied nations" America has lost influence since Trump's election, and in many corridors of power, and spheres of activity much thought and discussion will be turning to how to proceed should America withdraw, or indeed perhaps collapse into an ineffectual ( internationally) maelstrom. Imagine, all that military power projection, vast fleets, aircraft carriers, submarines, armies and air forces bobbing around hamstrung by the lack of a coherent government.

 

It is being considered, you can bet on it!

There is no doubt the US is losing it's influence daily, and the remaining influence largely is due to the size of the economy (China remains a distant second), and the military (China may have a technically larger navy, but it lacks long range vessels and deep sea ports).

 

However, it does scare me to think of which nation may take it's place, when the time comes. It definitely will not be Russia (they are relatively insignificant economically), and I sure hope it will not be China, as they are not exactly a beacon of morality, and have been substantially more of a bully on the world stage, and do not wear their power lightly. Also, in my opinion, the government there is significantly more morally bankrupt than the US. And that is saying alot.

[Tropposurfer]

Don't ya just love the screamers about injustice. The US and almost all States have on their books and have for centuries ... speedy trial statutes.

 

This is no surprise at all. The faux outrage is because:

1. Trump is on trial in a State legislature, not a Federal one that he cannot (by anyone) be pardoned for.
2. The GOP MAGA party refuses to acknowledge that Trump is on trial in Georgia because a jury of 12 random citizens there saw the evidences presented by the prosecution and could see clear enough that there was a case to answer to and so Trump was indicted.
3. The GOP MAGA party/cult is hoping, by delaying as much as they can, for some divine (evil dark actually) miracle come election day that they will sweep all sanity and truth before them and can if this black-miracle happens simply disobey and nullify through whatever means they deem necessary the prosecution and any convictions that may have been handed down against Trump and any of the MAGA crowd.
4. When we see the evidences in open court which will be the case in Georgia, because cameras are allowed and commonly used for the public to see trials, what Fani Willis has reported as being the core of the indictments it will be clear for all (the entire world) to see what the truth is.

Not that any of this will matter to those who have handed over their lives, wills, souls, and sanity to a madman and the evil, extreme alt-rightist, neo-Nazi, Klan, despotism that is now the GOP and MAGA.

 

The history of this pernicious white-supremacist evil has always existed in the USA. The body-politic of fascism in American history and in the political zeitgeist of todays America is plain and real to see. If you cannot see this then you are sick, yes sick.

 

If anyone denies the turgidity of the US neo-Nazism in todays American society, its poster-boy Trump, and the deliberate calculated ingress and infection of the body politic and culture of America today and is crying-out that the Justice Department is persecuting good hearted 'patriotic Americans' then they themselves harbour racist, white -supremacy in themselves.

 

Yes I'm talking directly to you ????

 

[jerrymahoney]

18 minutes ago, rudi49jr said:

As other posters here have already pointed out, it was Trump who weaponized the DoJ during his presidency, by going after people who were investigating him, or people he saw as a threat.

 

And you do realize that the only reason Trump wants to become president again is to go after everyone who had ever slighted him, either real or perceived. Trump has been very clear about that, that he will appoint his sycophants everywhere possible and use the DoJ for ‘payback’ to everyone who has ever so much as looked funny at him.
 

Trump is a thin-skinned, narcissistic and extremely vindictive man child who will stop at nothing to get back at his (many, many) ‘enemies’. He should never be allowed anywhere near a position of power ever again. Just my two cents.

Thank you . And there is a Conservative establishment who see Trump as a convenient even if boorish vessel and has been engineering plans to overhaul the "Deep State" Government since Reagan. And Trump would have likely implemented Schedule F overhaul of the federal labor force if he had time.

 

AUGUST 2, 2022
In recent weeks, former White House aides from the Trump administration unveiled plans to immediately reinstitute Schedule F the next time a Republican is president.

 

Schedule F was an ill-fated plan to find and reclassify the positions of tens of thousands of career federal workers in “policy-related” roles outside of the competitive service, stripping them of their civil service protections and making it much easier to hire and fire them. Trump, who is mulling another campaign for president, seemingly endorsed the plan in a speech last week.

 

https://www.govexec.com/workforce/2022/08/senate-dems-join-push-block-schedule-f/375221/

Which is Partly why I say I am much more anxious NOT to see Trump again as President than I am the outcome of any of these criminal trials.

Edited August 29, 2023 by jerrymahoney

[HappyExpat57]

5 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Liberal judge uses the justice system to derail right wing politician during election campaign against Liberal opponents.

 

Liberals - "Move along please. Nothing to see here". ????

If I didn't know better, I'd swear you have every channel BUT Fox NOT-news blocked.

[rudi49jr]

36 minutes ago, bignok said:

Actually the do unless you are charged with murder or rape. Your bias is on show.

Your bias is on show
 

This from someone who rants about Nancy Pelosi in this thread. But what you said is just about facts, not about dislike (hate?) or bias at all, is it?

[fdimike]

6 hours ago, JonnyF said:

An incredible choice of date. More evidence of the weaponizing of the justice system for political gains. A sad state of affairs for the once great US of A.

 

I wonder if she'd have a different opinion about working the trial around the defendants work commitments if the defendant was working for the BLM movement that she so loves to defend?

 

I'd imagine the judge in the OP will have the same expression on her face as she deals with Trump throughout the trial.

 

Sad times for US justice/politics.

Do you honestly know what you're talking about???

[Thailand]

It's highly unlikely that Trump can get through an extended period without breaking the terms and conditions of his bail. He can't keep his mouth shut and his fingers off the keyboard so a reasonable chance he may get jail time for that and contempt of court etc.

I guess it's possible trials could be brought forward should a judge consider he is a threat?