Handicap parking

[Liverpool Lou]

20 minutes ago, recom273 said:

Some truly saddening pics, I guess by the fact that they are straddling the bays that they know full well what they are doing and think that this is some kind of excuse for their behavior.

 

I am not disabled but have needed to use the parking from time to time. I try to park close to the store, leaving the bays free for people who need them more than I but if I do have to use them I'm really happy I have the opportunity to

"Some truly saddening pics, I guess by the fact that they are straddling the bays that they know full well what they are doing and think that this is some kind of excuse for their behavior".

 

"I am not disabled but have needed to use the parking from time to time. I try to park close to the store, leaving the bays free for people who need them more than I but if I do have to use them I'm really happy I have the opportunity to"

 

Jesus...your screaming hypocrisy.

[Liverpool Lou]

1 minute ago, JBChiangRai said:

9 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Are you disabled and if not why do you do that?  Can't you walk to the 7-11 from your parked car and give mothers and children and handicapped customers the courtesy that 7-11 clearly believes they deserve?

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There is no other parking

Are there no streets in your area?  What would you do if all the mothers with children and handicapped spaces were taken, then?

[Liverpool Lou]

4 minutes ago, brianthainess said:

I needed a disabled parking space at swampy short term parking, all full with luxury cars, still there next day.

Maybe those cars needed a parking space as much as you did?   Were you able to medically examine their drivers and passengers?

[JBChiangRai]

2 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Are there no streets in your area?  What would you do if all the mothers with children and handicapped spaces were taken, then?

The kerbs are painted, there is no other street parking.  If all the bays are taken I drive a few more km and go somewhere else.

 

I am comfortable that I am parking in the way that they intended, giving priority to Mothers & Handicap, but if no other spots available using them.  Actually, they are often used by motorbikes or other people who are neither mothers nor disabled.

[JBChiangRai]

What I do think is crazy is that the disabled spot at my local 7/11 is furthest from the door, any disabled driver is going to park closer to the door if they can and leave the disabled spot empty.

[Liverpool Lou]

10 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

What I do think is crazy is that the disabled spot at my local 7/11 is furthest from the door, any disabled driver is going to park closer to the door if they can and leave the disabled spot empty.

You're right, of course, park in the disabled spot so that the disabled can park nearer to the door because an able-bodied person doesn't give a shlt.  AN poster logic for excusing his discourteous behaviour at its best.

[JBChiangRai]

1 minute ago, Liverpool Lou said:

You're right, of course, park in the disabled spot so that the disabled can park nearer to the door because an able-bodied person doesn't give a shlt.  AN poster logic for excusing his discourteous behaviour at its best.

I don't think you read my initial post.

 

I only park in those spots IF all the other spots are taken.  So how would the disabled person park nearer to the door when all the spots are taken?

[Peabody]

I drive a trike with disabled stickers, backed by a letter from my hip-replacement surgeon.. There is a handicapped space at my condo, but security won't let me use it.

"Cars only". Fock-wads

 

[ronster]

3 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

You could be right but were you able to establish simply by looking at them that they, or one of them, were not suffering from some medical disability that was not visible to a casual observer such as, for example, a heart condition?   Years ago in the UK I had a 38-year old friend who drove an XJS (not a Mobility vehicle) and was able to walk normally as far as any observer was concerned but he was granted a Disabled badge because he had a heart condition and he was subjected to abuse from people such as you who were ignorant to his circumstances when parking in those allocated places until they were able to see the badge.  Disabilities are not always obvious.

Pretty sure like most who park in these places that there was absolutely nothing wrong with any of them !

They seemed all healthy while eating an ice-cream each before then all having a cigarette each. Then when done 2 of them got in the back and the driver got in the passenger door before sliding over to the driver seat. Probably embarrassed as I was sitting near them and my wife who was driving was staring at them after she got out of the car.

[Liverpool Lou]

3 minutes ago, ronster said:

4 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

You could be right but were you able to establish simply by looking at them that they, or one of them, were not suffering from some medical disability that was not visible to a casual observer such as, for example, a heart condition?   Years ago in the UK I had a 38-year old friend who drove an XJS (not a Mobility vehicle) and was able to walk normally as far as any observer was concerned but he was granted a Disabled badge because he had a heart condition and he was subjected to abuse from people such as you who were ignorant to his circumstances when parking in those allocated places until they were able to see the badge.  Disabilities are not always obvious.

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Pretty sure like most who park in these places that there was absolutely nothing wrong with any of them !

So how is a disability proved in Thailand in order to facilitate convenient parking in those zones?   Are you the one who makes the decision?

[Liverpool Lou]

4 minutes ago, ronster said:

They seemed all healthy while eating an ice-cream each before then all having a cigarette each.

I didn't realise that handicapped people are not permitted to eat ice cream or smoke cigarettes, thanks for that information.   What other foods or relaxations are the disabled not permitted to partake of?

[brianthainess]

Can't park outside my local mini C or 7/11 after 3.30pm full of street vendors, again. 

The designated 'Car park' is inaccessible unless you have high ground clearance, due to the concrete gutter in the road put there by local council, that still believes water can run uphill   

[Ralf001]

Best spots to park IMO.

 

close to building entrances and wider than normal eliminating some numpty jamming his door i to yours.

[willip]

How do you qualify to park in a disability space? 

My friend has a badge 

But he says to qualify!! You have to be elderly. Or actually have a disability .if this is so. what age is elderly  

[richard_smith237]

On 9/6/2023 at 7:34 AM, ronster said:

As a wheelchair user it always amazes me how many disabled people are in shops I go to yet I never actually see one inside .
This parking was very special, done by 3 people with zero disability as I watched them come out and get into the car . 

 

I disagree...  Parking like that, they clearly have a disability - but its one that should prevent them from driving in the first place. 

 

 

[Russell17au]

On 9/5/2023 at 7:43 PM, jvs said:

Some explaining to do on my part,i was not trying to be a smart xss

or being disrespectful.

All i meant was that only parking spaces for disabled people have extra room on either side of the car for easy opening of the doors and having room for a wheelchair to pass unhindered.

If you can park close to where you want to go the disabled parking areas

maybe even further away.

Usually they are close to the toilet area for obvious reasons.

If you want to go to another place it maybe a longer walk.

So mister illiterate the only people that need the extra space at the side of their vehicles is those with wheelchairs. Well mister I do not have a wheelchair but I do need a walking frame which takes the same room at the side of my car as a wheelchair.

[jvs]

14 minutes ago, Russell17au said:

So mister illiterate the only people that need the extra space at the side of their vehicles is those with wheelchairs. Well mister I do not have a wheelchair but I do need a walking frame which takes the same room at the side of my car as a wheelchair.

Ok, no problem.I understand that but it was just a matter of speaking on my part.

Oh and by the way,if you want to call someone illiterate maybe you should make sure you are writing correctly!

[dlclark97]

I am also somewhat physically handicapped and hate the fact that so many non-handicapped people use these handicapped parking spaces.  I can walk short distances using a cane.  Long distances can be very painful.  I do drive a 4 door pickup but much of my issue is getting in or out when I can't fully open the door.  Once at TESCO, now LOTUS on Sukumvit in Pattaya I did complain to the manager that every handicap parking space was full of food delivery motorbikes.  His reply, "Sorry, there is nothing I can do about that."  Another pet peeve is especially the 4th floor (and possibly others) at Central Festival where the handicapped spaces are often filled with the Toyota Alphard vans.

[Kwaibill]

Happy that our local Makro parking attendant has several times directed my wife into a handicap slot when spotting my cane. She does not think to use one otherwise. Indicative of the general Thai awareness about the idea I would say.

[billd766]

On 9/6/2023 at 8:48 AM, JimHuaHin said:

I see this problem almost every day in Hua Hin - especially involving people driving luxury cars who seem to think they have a right to park anywhere..  And a few times I have seen cases similiar to the picture above.  Some times the worst offenders are farangs.  Last year, I parked in a disabled space; I was having problems with walking, and was using a walking stick.  A middle aged farang pulled into the space next to me as I was walking to the mall entrance.  He easily exited his vehicle with his 20+ something gf/wife, and briskly followed me to mall the entrance.  I greeted him, how are you going.  "I'm great" was the reply.  I responed, "Then why the <deleted> are you parking the disabled area?"  "Because, I can, <deleted> off" was the reply.

Sadly ignorance has no national boundaries, neither does stupidity.

 

I also use a walking stick and on a good day I can manage about 50 metres of walking before I have to stop for a rest.

 

Fortunately I live in rural Thailand where the number of numpties are far less. If I have a problem while I am out there at the shops there are always good and kind Thais who offer to help me.

 

They always offer to wait and let me go first.

[billd766]

On 9/6/2023 at 11:06 AM, JBChiangRai said:

My local 7/11 has 5 normal parking spaces, one mother & child space and one disabled space.

 

I try to use a normal space but if they're all occupied I will use the mother & child space first followed by the disabled space if that is occupied.

Of course you could always park a little further away and walk to the 7/11.

[poppysdad]

If appears to me that a great many of you are very busy making excuses for the lazy and couldn’t care less morons who abuse these parking facilities without any morals at all.

In the past 12 months or so since I became one of the unfortunate who genuinely need these areas our Big C have by far the worst offenders with no supervision of these reserved areas at all and are frequently in use by the fit and able (stop trying to make excuses for these lazy good for nothings) whereas as Robinsons and Makro are well controlled and  the staff are always thanked by me for doing so. 

[billd766]

42 minutes ago, poppysdad said:

If appears to me that a great many of you are very busy making excuses for the lazy and couldn’t care less morons who abuse these parking facilities without any morals at all.

In the past 12 months or so since I became one of the unfortunate who genuinely need these areas our Big C have by far the worst offenders with no supervision of these reserved areas at all and are frequently in use by the fit and able (stop trying to make excuses for these lazy good for nothings) whereas as Robinsons and Makro are well controlled and  the staff are always thanked by me for doing so. 

I have to use a stick to walk with nowadays. Last Tuesday at BigC KPP both disabled slots were empty so my wife parked in one. As I got out., some numpty in a minibus tried to park in the second slot. It was difficult for him as the pickup door on the passenger side was open and I was walking into the second slot to stop him.

 

Eventually he got the idea and buggered off somewhere else to park. When we came in I saw at least 30 empty parking spaces but of course he would have had to walk further to get to the entrance.

[AustinRacing]

You’re a guest here. That means stay out of matters that do not directly affect you. 

[richard_smith237]

2 minutes ago, AustinRacing said:

You’re a guest here. That means stay out of matters that do not directly affect you. 

Does that also mean ‘us guests’ are not permitted to have opinions or discuss such matters on these fora, with our Western & Thai friends ??? 

[billd766]

58 minutes ago, AustinRacing said:

You’re a guest here. That means stay out of matters that do not directly affect you. 

Thank you for your advice.

 

However being unable to walk any great distance, it actually does affect me and judging from some of the posts, it actually affects more than just me. It also affects many Thais who are disabled also.

 

They are not guests in Thailand.

[CanadaSam]

You do own a key or some type? 

 

Walk alongside the offender, and use it.

 

Fastest way to solve the problem, doubt if they will do it again.

[AustinRacing]

4 hours ago, billd766 said:

Thank you for your advice.

 

However being unable to walk any great distance, it actually does affect me and judging from some of the posts, it actually affects more than just me. It also affects many Thais who are disabled also.

 

They are not guests in Thailand.

You don’t need to worry about them. Regarding your situation, by all means have a go at ranting, this place is all about that. 

[still kicking]

On 9/5/2023 at 7:24 PM, jvs said:

Are you in a wheelchair?

If not where you park does not make much difference.

 

B/S

[AustinRacing]

5 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Does that also mean ‘us guests’ are not permitted to have opinions or discuss such matters on these fora, with our Western & Thai friends ??? 

By all means we can discuss. The op was looking for actionable advice and not just opinions. On that basis we shouldn’t get involved.