Trump vows to end ‘madness’ of EV push

[bignok]

Solar cars have been around for many years. Not practical. Enough oil for well over 50 years, probably 100 as most not mined yet.

 

Petrol cars will be around for many years.

[bbko]

1 minute ago, bignok said:

Solar cars have been around for many years. Not practical. Enough oil for well over 50 years, probably 100 as most not mined yet.

 

Petrol cars will be around for many years.

So in 50 years when the world runs out of oil, should we only then start making electronic cars and charging stations?  Or here's a right-wing brain buster....plan for the future?

[MrMojoRisin]

23 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Another reason to vote Trump.

There’s two reasons to vote for Trump?

????????????

[bignok]

4 minutes ago, bbko said:

So in 50 years when the world runs out of oil, should we only then start making electronic cars and charging stations?  Or here's a right-wing brain buster....plan for the future?

Oil wont run out this century. They said it would run out by 2000 in the 1970s. They keep finding more oil.

[bignok]

https://elements.visualcapitalist.com/range-of-electric-cars-vs-gas/

 

Average EV range is short

349km

 

[JBChiangRai]

7 minutes ago, bignok said:

I dont buy ice. Whats it like?

it's a bit like frozen water

 

1 minute ago, bignok said:

Rode in an EV yesterday. Lost 40% of its charge from a 1.5 hour drive.

So range of 3 hours and 45 minutes, it all depends on the speed and terrain.

[JBChiangRai]

16 minutes ago, bignok said:

You dont get out much do you?

 

Here's the view from the car

 

What was the car? 

[bbko]

7 minutes ago, bignok said:

Oil wont run out this century. They said it would run out by 2000 in the 1970s. They keep finding more oil.

So in your mind having oil today (or the next several decades) means no need to plan for the future?

[bignok]

1 minute ago, JBChiangRai said:

What was the car? 

Little sedan. Didnt ask. No clear logo. Was a hilly drive. Lost 1% in quick time.

[bignok]

1 minute ago, bbko said:

So in your mind having oil today (or the next several decades) means no need to plan for the future?

Cant plan for 2100. People in 1920 couldnt plan for 2000.

[bignok]

Only 2 economists out of 50,000 predicted the gfc. How the hell can people plan for 2100? These cc people are just liars.

[JBChiangRai]

3 minutes ago, bignok said:

Little sedan. Didnt ask. No clear logo. Was a hilly drive. Lost 1% in quick time.

You're being less than honest methinks

[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, bignok said:

Only 2 economists out of 50,000 predicted the gfc. How the hell can people plan for 2100? These cc people are just liars.

Link to this BS please? Actually, don't, it's off topic. A bank failure is a little more difficult to predict than when the evidence is staring us in the face. We can safely predict that we are gone by 2100 if we don't do something about climate change.

 

We like to think we are a bit smarter than in 1920. We can actually know that we are headed for extinction by 2100 if we don't plan.

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6 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Link to this BS please? Actually, don't, it's off topic. A bank failure is a little more difficult to predict than when the evidence is staring us in the face. We can safely predict that we are gone by 2100 if we don't do something about climate change.

 

We like to think we are a bit smarter than in 1920. We can actually know that we are headed for extinction by 2100 if we don't plan.

No, we are not headed for extinction. I can't think of any climatologist who makes such a claim. That is definitely not a claim of the IPCC. Just that things will get very bad for billions of people if nothing is done.

[xylophone]

On 9/6/2023 at 10:52 AM, BritManToo said:

Trump has a lot of common sense!

Those batteries are all sourced from China.

I remember they laughed when he told the Germans not to rely on Russian gas.

Giving your enemies power over your country is never a smart move.

Trump has a lot of common sense!

 

That has to be the laugh of the Century!! LOL..............

[bbko]

14 minutes ago, bignok said:

Cant plan for 2100. People in 1920 couldnt plan for 2000.

One step at a time, no one is suggesting plan for 2100, but making small advances today means a better future, right?

[ozimoron]

8 minutes ago, placeholder said:

No, we are not headed for extinction. I can't think of any climatologist who makes such a claim. That is definitely not a claim of the IPCC. Just that things will get very bad for billions of people if nothing is done.

How about the head of the UN?

 

“Humanity is on thin ice — and that ice is melting fast,” United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres said. “Our world needs climate action on all fronts — everything, everywhere, all at once.”

 

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/humanity-can-still-stop-worst-consequences-of-climate-change-but-time-is-running-out-ipcc-warns

 

The IPCC has just released its 2021 report and the big takeaway is that time is running out for the planet unless policies are enacted now to halt climate change.

 

The IPCC has made it crystal clear the future is now and that we have only decades to stop the damage before it hits the point of no return.

 

https://monacolife.net/ipcc-says-humanity-needs-reality-check/

 

In recent years a number of prominent figures have warned of the possibility of human extinction as a result of man-made climate change

 

https://www.smh.com.au/opinion/human-extinction-it-is-possible-20140402-zqpln.html

[LS24]

56 minutes ago, bignok said:

Rode in an EV yesterday. Lost 40% of its charge from a 1.5 hour drive.

I wish my 400 small block got that sort of range.

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, LS24 said:

I wish my 400 small block got that sort of range.

way more fun though.

[Walker88]

Damn ! trump and climate in one thread.

 

If only you can work in religion and circumcision, this discussion could get really animated !

[placeholder]

9 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

How about the head of the UN?

 

“Humanity is on thin ice — and that ice is melting fast,” United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres said. “Our world needs climate action on all fronts — everything, everywhere, all at once.”

 

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/humanity-can-still-stop-worst-consequences-of-climate-change-but-time-is-running-out-ipcc-warns

 

The IPCC has just released its 2021 report and the big takeaway is that time is running out for the planet unless policies are enacted now to halt climate change.

 

The IPCC has made it crystal clear the future is now and that we have only decades to stop the damage before it hits the point of no return.

 

https://monacolife.net/ipcc-says-humanity-needs-reality-check/

 

In recent years a number of prominent figures have warned of the possibility of human extinction as a result of man-made climate change

 

https://www.smh.com.au/opinion/human-extinction-it-is-possible-20140402-zqpln.html

The only article that supports your claim about human extinction is the last one. The authoritative ones don't. And who is Julian Cribb that we should mind what he says?

[ozimoron]

4 minutes ago, placeholder said:

The only article that supports your claim about human extinction is the last one. The authoritative ones don't. And who is Julian Cribb that we should mind what he says?

You don't think there's a level of climate change that would reasonably, if not must, result in human extinction? No tipping point that we could reach?

[Hanaguma]

Interesting article on how a large Tesla charging station in California ALSO runs on a diesel generator. Green energy anyone? 

 

https://www.sfgate.com/centralcoast/article/tesla-interstate-5-supercharger-power-plant-18343119.php

[Skeptic7]

On 9/6/2023 at 10:53 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

Trump thinks he can outsmart market forces.

 

Wait...Trump "thinks"❓❗❓????

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10 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Interesting article on how a large Tesla charging station in California ALSO runs on a diesel generator. Green energy anyone? 

 

https://www.sfgate.com/centralcoast/article/tesla-interstate-5-supercharger-power-plant-18343119.php

Could you explain what you mean by "ALSO"?

[Skeptic7]

2 hours ago, bignok said:

GOP needs to win to stop left wing nonsense.

I KNEW it and called it❗

[Screaming]

Ending the subsidies and government mandates would go a long way to end the EV madness.

[Hanaguma]

9 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Could you explain what you mean by "ALSO"?

The generator is used to power the EV recharging points, especially when theu are busy. Most charging points do not run on renewable energy exclusively.

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, Screaming said:

Ending the subsidies and government mandates would go a long way to end the EV madness.

But not ending fossil fuel subsidies?

 

https://www.imf.org/en/Blogs/Articles/2023/08/24/fossil-fuel-subsidies-surged-to-record-7-trillion

[Rimmer]

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